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Would people prefer it if we turned off commenting on reports of fatalities?

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  • December 13, 2013 at 4:43 pm #20346
    Tony Farrelly

     

    We don't have commenting on reports of court cases for legal reasons, but we could turn them off on reports of fatalities and witness appeals too – and then if people want to discuss aspects of what was reported they can do so by starting a forum thread instead rather than having arguments develop in the comments on the story about aspects of the report.

    Let me know what you think…

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  • December 15, 2013 at 6:44 pm #765787
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    wwfcb

    Turn comments off, when it
    Turn comments off, when it involves fatalities.

    December 15, 2013 at 10:46 am #765785
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    FMOAB

    Yes please.
    Yes please.

    December 15, 2013 at 1:01 am #765783
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    MartyMcCann

    I also agree that comments
    I also agree that comments should be turned off- unfortunately there is a tendency for them to bring out the inner-crash investigator among a minority, who seemingly just want to put their detective skills to the test using Google Street View to try and work out who is to blame for an incident. It can get tasteless and sidetracked quite quickly, and no matter how efficient any moderator is, some inappropriate comments will be published before they get removed (unless there is a move to pre-mod comments before publishing which no one wants to see happen). Plus I would much rather the energies and attention of those behind the site are more focused on new articles as opposed to monitoring comment threads.

    December 14, 2013 at 6:23 pm #765781
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    Bedfordshire Clanger

    Some people do write silly
    Some people do write silly things in the comments. I recall that on at least one article you have added the caveat to remember that the friends and family of the deceased may be reading. I think that it is a good way of keeping the comments sensible and respectful.

    December 14, 2013 at 4:43 pm #765779
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    IanD

    Disable comments for these
    Disable comments for these articles.

    December 14, 2013 at 3:00 pm #765777
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    OldRidgeback

    Argos74 wrote:road.cc

    Argos74 wrote:
    road.cc frequently hits the top of the Google searches for some cycling related news stories, and gets posted on the BBC News site for linked stories and comment. Friends and relatives of the cyclist involved in a fatal collision may well end up seeing the story, and my thoughts spring from that assumption and strong possibility.

    Some comments do smack of turning up at a funeral with a bunch of protest banners and a bullhorn. There’s a time, and a place. And there’s the wrong time, and the wrong place. And I’ve been on protest rides, so not coming at this from the diehard count-every-gram roadie angle.

    Turn comments off – no. But with caveats.

    Comments mourning the loss of a brother or sister of the wheel, and expressing our shared sadness – yes.

    Ruthless moderation to delete or move off-topic and inflammatory comments best kept for forums – yes.

    +1 – summed up nicely I think

    December 14, 2013 at 10:57 am #765775
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    Jack Osbourne snr

    Off.
    The facility to comment
    Off.

    The facility to comment merely invites the troll and engenders inappropriate debate.

    There is already a forum, so those that have something to say can discuss (or be readily ignored) there.

    Keep the resources for writing and researching material rather than moderating where it shouldn’t be required in the first place.

    December 14, 2013 at 10:19 am #765773
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    lazyusername

    For what it’s worth I think
    For what it’s worth I think it’s a good idea to turn comments off for fatality reports

    December 14, 2013 at 9:16 am #765771
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    arfa

    A general policy of not
    A general policy of not accepting posts that would no be spoken in a face to face environment might be a good start. Some of the keyboard warrior type postings shouldn’t be tolerated as they drag the tone of interaction down and ultimately lead to stifling of discussion and constructive debate. I have seen online posting boards wither away elsewhere because of this.
    Ultimately there is a lot of knowledge and experience here that is mostly shared in a helpful manner and long may that remain.

    December 13, 2013 at 9:22 pm #765769
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    William Black

    crazy-legs wrote:
    Any

    crazy-legs wrote:

    Any speculative comments, anything without a linked and verified news report, anything that moves onto helmets/hi-vis etc gets deleted almost instantly – repeat transgressions simply result in a ban.

    This sounds like a solution.

    December 13, 2013 at 9:22 pm #765767
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    tourdelound

    Reading some of the comments
    Reading some of the comments from the latest fatality report, I think it would be in the best interest of the family and friends of the victim/victims that comments be turned off on any future fatality reports.

    Some of the comments make me feel ashamed, have people no respect?

    December 13, 2013 at 8:06 pm #765765
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    Stumps

    Keep the comments box open
    Keep the comments box open but have a written rule its for sympathy messages only.

    If people want to gob off let them open a new forum topic its easy to do.

    A fishing forum i go on is strictly run by the moderators and anyone who’s comments are racist, homophobic, abusive or foul mouthed are very quickly removed and the poster warned.

    December 13, 2013 at 8:00 pm #765763
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    Ush

    allez neg wrote:I think its a

    allez neg wrote:
    I think its a good idea to turn comments off. I would have thought that anything said by a stranger on a cycling forum would be pifflingly insignificant to a person who has just lost a friend or loved one in a bike crash

    This +1000

    December 13, 2013 at 7:58 pm #765761
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    Ush

    Argos74 wrote:
    Some comments

    Argos74 wrote:

    Some comments do smack of turning up at a funeral with a bunch of protest banners and a bullhorn. There’s a time, and a place. And there’s the wrong time, and the wrong place.

    Agreed. And t.b.h. when I first read this story I decided not to comment. My thoughts were simply those of regret and sadness for the death of someone. I don’t think any comments beyond simply, “R.I.P.” are appropriate, if that, unless we personally know the bereaved.

    The post by guyz2010 was obviously using a coffin as a soapbox. However oozaveered would have been better off leaving its crassness to stand on its own instead of responding to it.

    Argos74 wrote:

    Ruthless moderation to delete or move off-topic and inflammatory comments best kept for forums – yes.

    The problem would be, who is going to do that? It’s a full-time, tireless, thankless job. Easier just toggle comments on/off. I can only imagine our esteemed editors would rather spend their time writing or riding.

    December 13, 2013 at 7:57 pm #765759
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    crazy-legs

    Yes, either turn comments off
    Yes, either turn comments off or have a “report post” button and some strong moderation.

    The LFGSS (London Fixed Gear & Single Speed) forum has a “rider down” section where accidents get reported and that is ruthlessly moderated – the only things that are accepted on a thread there are condolences and factual stories relating to it (ie links from news reports).

    Any speculative comments, anything without a linked and verified news report, anything that moves onto helmets/hi-vis etc gets deleted almost instantly – repeat transgressions simply result in a ban.

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