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“The roads are not only paralysed – they’re dirty”: Locals slam “disgraceful trail of rubbish” left by cyclists during Mallorca 312 event; Should the Giro d’Italia be moved to August?; Tadej Pogačar casually chats… at 420 watts + more on the live blog
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Cheap vs expensive bike locks: Will spending more keep your pride and joy safe? We deployed an angle grinder to find out
You may have noticed that it’s Security and Storage Week on road.cc, during which we’ve been dolling out some useful (we hope) tips on how best to store your bike indoors, keeping your shed nice and sturdy, and what to do if the worst happens and your bike is stolen.
So, naturally, we also decided to put a wide array of bike locks, from £30 jobs to £300 heavy duty thief deterrents, properly to the test – and yes, that meant entrusting Dave with an angle grinder.
Wish us luck…
> Cheap vs expensive bike locks: Will spending more keep your pride and joy safe? We deployed an angle grinder to find out

Final stage of Giro d’Italia set to pay tribute to Pope Francis with neutralised start in Vatican City
Surely this isn’t the final stage surprise Red Bull were talking about yesterday? (I can practically see the wing-based marketing now…)
In any case, the Giro d’Italia has confirmed that it will pay homage to the late Pope Francis – a big cycling fan, remember, and former owner of bikes belonging to Egan Bernal and Peter Sagan – during the race’s final stage in Rome next month by passing through the Vatican gardens.
The neutralised zone of stage 21 of this year’s Giro was always set to take place in Vatican City, the peloton rolling out from St. Peter’s Basilica before passing the Casa Santa Marta, where Francis lived. But now, following his death last week at the age of 88, the start of the stage will instead serve as a tribute to the late Pope.


“The original idea was to have Francis signal the start of the last stage to promote the Vatican and the Eternal City in the 2025 Holy Year,” Giro director Mauro Vegni said yesterday.
“We wanted to go right up to Casa Santa Marta because we knew the Pope was aging, so we thought he could come down and offer a blessing to start the final stage. Then unfortunately things turned out differently. But it will remain an homage to Francis.”
The stage will see the peloton enter the Vatican through the Petriano gate to the left of St. Peter’s, ride around the basilica, climbing towards the gardens before exiting near Santa Marta at the narrow Perugino gate, where the stage proper will commence.
Stage 21 will mark the third time the Giro has visited the Vatican, after starting the race there in 1974 and 2000, when the prologue finished in St Peter’s Square.
However, this year’s route is the deepest the race has ever ventured into the city-state, featuring areas rarely seen by the public. That means strict guidelines on what can and can’t be broadcast on television.
For instance, team cars laden with sponsors’ logos will not be allowed inside the Vatican – with neutral service on hand for any mechanicals – while the usual swarm of photography motorbikes will be reduced. TV images will also be produced by the Vatican’s own media team, while discussions are still ongoing over whether helicopters will be allowed to capture aerial coverage in what is usually heavily protected air space.
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“It’s been a difficult negotiation,” Bishop Paul Tighe, part of the Vatican’s culture and education ministry, said.
“But it was the enthusiasm of the Pope for the project that opened doors. Otherwise, it would have been very easy to say, ‘it’s impossible, it can’t be done’. It’s not going to be a competitive moment. It’s more a moment symbolically that they’re there.
“And then, by coincidence, the area where they’re up in the higher end of the gardens is an area where there are all these statues of our Lady from all over the world, from various sanctuaries, so in a sense it’s a reminder of the international dimension of sport and the international dimension of faith.”
Now that’s what I call an unfortunate pro cycling number plate!
I’m not sure Ineos thought this one through when they picked up their team cars for 2025…
One shitty license plate there INEOS Grenadiers 🫣 #tourofromandie #epo
— The Unrealistic Me (@theunrealisticme.bsky.social) April 30, 2025 at 8:18 AM
Great spot.
Anti-cycling comments from councillors… in the form of motivational poster quotes
Inspired by an active travel campaigner in Chicago, who juxtaposed lovely images of children playing on a traffic-free street with a selection of Facebook comments decrying the “disgusting chaos” being inflicted upon the local community, Owen McKnight from Oxford decided to get in on the act.
Owen’s take on this new trend of ironic active travel artwork, posted this morning on BlueSky, depicts some of Oxford’s safe streets, used by elderly pedestrians and young cyclists alike, accompanied by complaints of “devastation and misery” from pro-car councillor Anna Stares:


The devastation, the misery…


Brilliant.
I’m sure we could knock up a few of these for every cycle lane and low-traffic initiative across the UK – I’ll start digging through the live blog archive…
Why cyclists need to wear helmets (that they can see out of)
Poor Julian Vermote (and his space-age aero helmet) demonstrating here how not to take a fast downhill corner during a prologue at the Tour de Romandie yesterday:
Thankfully, despite being tangled up in the barriers for what felt like an age, Vermote escaped with just bruises and starts today’s first road stage to Fribourg.
“They’re going to cut my legs off, I’d like one last ride with them”


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Horrible conditions at Tour of Turkey leads to crash-fest on sodden descent
Speaking of terrible weather conditions at bike races, today’s queen stage of the Tour of Turkey – featuring a 9km, 10 per cent summit finish at Akyaka – has been hit by heavy rain, leading to several crashes on the sketchy, slippery descent towards the final climb.


A number of riders have already abandoned after crashing in the sodden conditions, including New Zealander Josh Burnett, one of four Burgos BH riders to hit the deck.
Wout Poels rolls back the years as XDS Astana dominate queen stage at the Tour of Turkey
Wout Poels’ bid to complete the grand tour stage hat-trick at next month’s Giro d’Italia appears to be going to plan, as the Dutch veteran soloed to an impressive victory on the queen stage of the Tour of Turkey this afternoon, effectively wrapping up the GC win in the process.
In grisly conditions on the final, 9km-long, 10 per cent climb to the finish at Akyaka – which came after a treacherous, crash-filled descent – the 37-year-old former Liège-Bastogne-Liège winner was the first of the big contenders to launch a move, eventually dragging clear a select group containing his teammate Harold Martín López and the young Picnic PostNL duo Guillermo Juan Martinez and Frank van den Broek.
With 2km to go, Poels took off for good, riding clear through the fog to win by 19 seconds ahead of López, who had dispatched the Picnic pair in the final kilometre, ensuring another job well done for XDS Astana in their currently successful quest to fend off relegation from the WorldTour.
Julian Alaphilippe, 2025 edition
Julian Alaphilippe precisely 5 minutes after launching his one (1) thermonuclear attack
— Matthias (@nairoingreen.bsky.social) April 30, 2025 at 2:24 PM
But at least it’s entertaining, right?
More bad news from Shimano…


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On fire: Matthew Brennan continues sensational debut season with easy win at Tour de Romandie – and takes race lead from fellow young Brit Sam Watson
Matthew Brennan is the real deal.
The teenager from Darlington has enjoyed a dream start to life in the WorldTour with Visma-Lease a Bike, building on his first pro win at the GP Denain last month by winning two stages of the Volta a Catalunya, in storming fashion, and having a spirited first crack at Paris-Roubaix.
And he shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon.
At this afternoon’s opening road stage of the Tour de Romandie into Fribourg, Brennan proved he’s a master of gently uphill sprints, utilising the Geraint Thomas-led Ineos lead-out train to perfection before bursting clear inside the last 200 metres to take a comfortable win.
By the line, Brennan was bike lengths clear of runner-up Aurélien Paret-Peintre, his fourth pro victory in the bag, and with it his second leader’s jersey at a WorldTour stage race, the 10 bonus seconds enough to propel him above fellow promising young Brit Sam Watson.
And he still doesn’t turn 20 for another three months. Everyone else in the peloton, be very afraid.
The solution to the UCI’s calendar problems – a nine-week-long Girouruelta?
Forget swapping the Giro and Vuelta around, road.cc reader mdavidford has the answer to cycling’s long-running calendar debate (and no, it doesn’t involve making the sport ‘more like Formula 1’).
“Just combine the grand tours into one nine-week-long Girouruelta, thereby opening up the rest of the calendar to fit everything else in – sorted!” he wrote in the comments.


I know one rider who would be up for that…
Meanwhile, Clem Fandango had an even more revolutionary idea.
“Or just scrap them and we can have the Spring Classics and then the Summer Classics. Like Flanders and Roubaix but with potentially better weather (not that it’s been a problem in recent times) and slightly wider bergs.
“Then again, that might require laying pavé up Alpe d’Huez and removing road surfaces on various Italian mountains for that Strade Bianche feel.”
Quick, someone get OneCycling on the phone…

road.cc reader says littering at Mallorca 312 “was only in a few places” – but claims cyclists “have massively overstayed their welcome on the island”
Some interesting observations here on the Mallorca 312 littering debate from road.cc reader panda, who’s currently on the island and noted the extent of the rubbish left on the roads has been somewhat exaggerated – while also siding with locals who are fed up with Mallorca’s cyclo-tourism industry:
I’m in Mallorca now (we have a place here so I’m here a lot). The littering was only in a few places. I’m going to charitably suggest that it was after the obvious feeding spots where people didn’t put the empty sachet back in their pocket properly and it fell out.
I walked some of the route near Alaro and I only saw one 226ers gel packet which looked like it had been there a while and, weirdly, one plastic tyre lever. The photos published are a bit like the long-lens ‘aren’t there a lot of cyclists in bunches’ photos in Regent’s Park during Covid.
Also, the 312 organisation have swept the course so it only looked like that for a few hours.
All that said, cyclists have massively overstayed their welcome on the island; there are just far too many for them to coexist with locals trying to get on with their day. When I see the way the groups ride and behave in the villages it makes me embarrassed to be associated with them (obviously my neighbours see me going out on the bike most days).
However, not everyone in the comments agreed that cyclists have overstayed their welcome in Mallorca.
“What will the locals do when they stop tourism and the island falls into disrepair because there is no money?” asked dubwise.
When it came to the rubbish left on the roads, however, there was a general consensus in the comments (for a change), dubwise describing the “clowns” scattering gel wrappers everywhere as “pathetic”, a description echoed by Rendel Harris.


“Truly pathetic, I’ve seen this happening many places (and remonstrated with the perpetrators, in the unlikely event that I can catch up with them),” he said.
“It’s basically wannabe racers who like to act as if they are going so hard they just have time to bite the top off a gel, glug it and throw it down like the pros do (they obviously haven’t got the memo that pros have quite rightly been banned from doing it for quite a few years now).
“One would hope, perhaps romantically, that cyclists with their greater connection to their environment and their love of spectacular unspoiled countryside to ride in would take more care of it than motorists in insulated boxes throwing their wrappers out of the window; obviously not the case for a substantial number.
“I’d fully support the Council of Mallorca putting a €10 levy, or whatever they deem appropriate, on every entry fee next year to pay for the cleanup costs.”

“We’re doing 420 watts, I don’t really want to have a conversation!” Geraint Thomas says Tadej Pogačar casually chatted about trip to Richard Mille factory during fight for breakaway at Liège-Bastogne-Liège, as 2018 Tour winner was “focusing on breathing”
If you thought Tadej Pogačar’s victory at Liège-Bastogne-Liège looked easy from the sofa, from within the peloton… the view was pretty much the same, actually.
Speaking to former Ineos teammate and Decathlon AG2R DS Luke Rowe on the latest edition of his podcast, Geraint Thomas offered up another example of why the world champion is, in his words, “on another level”.
According to the 2018 Tour de France winner, during the bitter fight for the breakaway at La Doyenne, with speeds sky high during the difficult opening section of cycling’s oldest monument, Pogačar rode up alongside a struggling Thomas – and started casually chatting about his upcoming visit to the Richard Mille watch factory in Switzerland (presumably to replace his blood-soaked model from Paris-Roubaix).


Zac Williams/SWpix.com
“Liège starts uphill, it’s pretty hard at the start,” Thomas said on the podcast. “And there was a bit of a fight at the start, and I was doing 400 watts. And I hear, ‘Ah, G Thomas!’ And I look behind and it’s Pog, just riding along, so I say ‘alright mate’.
“And he comes up and he just starts talking to me, about going to bloody Richard Mille tomorrow to get a new watch or something.
“And I didn’t say it, but I was thinking, we’re doing 420 watts here, I don’t really want to have a conversation! I feel okay, but I just want to focus on breathing!
“Phwoar, help me out mate! He’s just riding at another level.”


Zac Williams/SWpix.com
Elsewhere in the episode, Thomas chatted about Ineos’ attacking, if ill-fated tactics, noting that the British team perhaps should have targeted a podium place instead of being so aggressive, while also discussing the crushing inevitability of Pogačar’s current dominance.
“If you were watching it on TV, it probably wasn’t that exciting. Like what happened?” Thomas asked. “The breakaway went, two of our guys went, they got caught, the break got caught, and Pogačar attacked in the saddle and rode away.”
“See you later,” added Rowe.
See you later, indeed.

Should the Giro d’Italia be moved to August? Heavy snow on Colle delle Finestre and threat of cancelled stages prompt debate about potential grand tour calendar swap with Vuelta a España
The spring classics are over, May is just around the corner, and the grand tour season is looming – which means only one thing.
It’s time for that much-loved, annual cycling tradition: anxiously fretting about the possibility of snow on the mountains of the Giro d’Italia and the threat of altered or cancelled stages. Exciting times, I know.
According to reports in the Italian press, the Giro’s penultimate, and potentially decisive stage, through the Alps to Sestrière could already be in danger after recent heavy snowfall on the Colle delle Finestre, the partially gravel-surfaced climb that provided the scene for Chris Froome’s spectacular race-winning move in 2018.
The 18.5km, the final major climb of the entire Giro before the drag to the finish in Sestrière, tops out at 2,178m above sea level, the highest point – and therefore the Cima Coppi – of this year’s race, and one which will almost certainly prove crucial to determining who will be wearing pink in Rome the following day.


But ilmeteo has reported that 30 to 40cm of fresh snow has fallen on the climb in recent days, adding to the thick snow already covering the mountain. 150-160cm of snow has been recorded at 2,000m altitude, with up to 230-290cm higher up.
According to ilmeteo, with temperatures dropping to -2°C at night, making the melting process a particularly slow one, this means that the snow could still be blocking the route when the Giro visits in five weeks’ time, making the gravel sections extremely dangerous and forcing organisers RCS into a difficult decision.
Of course, if the plug is pulled on the Finestre, this wouldn’t be the first time the Giro has fallen foul of the weather gods. While heavy snowfall has provided some of the Italian grand tour’s most iconic imagery – Andy Hampsten on the Gavia in ’88 and all that – it’s also forced the cancellation and re-routing of several stages over the years.
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In 2013, the Stelvio and Gavia were scrapped due to snow, while the last two editions have seen weather-related alterations and shortened stages in the Alps and Dolomites.
But while any decision on the future of stage 20 won’t be taken for a while yet, the prospect of a Finestre-less Giro has already prompted some debate about the race’s placement on the cycling calendar – with some fans even suggesting a new late summer slot, swapping with the Vuelta a España, for the grand tour most affected by the weather.
“How about having the Vuelta in May and the Giro in August/September?” asked Ellyce, a proposal that would see the Spanish grand tour move back to the late spring slot it occupied before 1995.
“There’s still too much snow in Italy in spring and it’s brutally hot in Spain in late summer.”
“It’s that time of the year that we should remind UCI to swap the Giro and the Vuelta on the calendar. Would be a win-win situation,” agreed Paulo, while Tobby also asked: “Can we already switch Vuelta and Giro, timing wise?”
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“Why can’t we just change Giro and Vuelta?” asked Lukáš. “No more problems like this at Giro in August and no more extreme heat at Vuelta in May. Sounds like a win-win situation.”
“Even moving everything back a week or even two would help,” added Stephen, again calling for the Giro to potentially revert to its pre-1990s mid-May to mid-June slot.
“That would mean the TdF finishing in the French holidays. Or have any stages with a climb over 2000m provide an alternative route? There’s something iconic about climbing through snow banks though.”


Zac Williams/SWpix.com
However, not everyone was in agreement about moving the traditional curtain raiser of the grand tour season to the Vuelta’s relative graveyard slot.
“As things stand the top riders participating in the Tour are more likely to opt for the Vuelta than the Giro as a second grand tour. So why would ASO agree to a swap with RCS?” noted Dave.
“Italy can be very hot too in August,” CyclingBottle pointed out. “Sierra Nevada and others can also still be snowy in May too. La Vuelta usually finishes around the end of Spanish school vacation. So their date also has a big economic reason. A change would improve little.”
“I don’t have a strong view one way or the other but the Vuelta used to be run late April to mid-May (until 1994) and the weather was often atrocious,” added Grant. Good point.
And finally, Kuyashii came up with a rather more aesthetic counterpoint: “The mountain stages are good in the snow and it is why Hampsten is still celebrated as a titan of the Giro.”
What do you reckon? Is moving the Giro d’Italia to August and September a viable alternative to snowed-off stages? Or should we just leave the cycling calendar alone?

“The roads are not only paralysed – they’re dirty”: Locals slam “disgraceful trail of rubbish” left by cyclists during Mallorca 312 event, putting “cycling above nature” and adding to “inconvenience of road closures”
Last month we reported that the Mallorca 312, the Spanish island’s flagship cycling event, was facing calls for its cancellation from local campaigners, angry at the sportive’s extensive road closures, its links to tourist overcrowding, and its impact on the environment.
First held in 2010, the Mallorca 312 gran fondo offers three routes on completely closed roads through the island’s Serra de Tramuntana mountain range, long a popular haven for cyclo-tourists. 8,500 cyclists from all over the world signed up to take part in last week’s 15th edition, which sold out in minutes according to the organisers.


However, in a joint statement issued to the Council of Mallorca and the Spanish government, a dozen groups, ranging from environmental activists to anti-tourism campaigners, argued that the event’s “abusive” road closures violate the “fundamental rights” of locals to leave their homes.
“Once again, many residents will be seriously affected, with travel restricted for several hours – up to seven in some cases – if these coincide with the race route,” the groups said, calling for a government review of the event to be carried out to assess its “public interest”.
“In addition, as has happened in previous editions, there will be residents who will find themselves faced with the violation of a fundamental right: that of entering or leaving their homes due to the road closures imposed for this event.”


And now, in the wake of the event taking place on Saturday, local attention has now turned to another pressing issue: littering.
Despite the Mallorca 312 organisers instructing participants to keep hold of their rubbish, including energy bar and gel wrappers, before depositing them in containers at feed stations along the route, images have been posted on social media showing the sheer scale of the litter left behind on the route.


“This is how the roads look after the passage of the Mallorca 312,” Juan Astorga posted on social media.
“Mallorca is not only paralysed, but also dirty.”
“It’s a disgrace,” another local agreed. “It’s incredible that sports fans have so little concern for the environment and consider cycling to be above respect for nature, believing they have the right to litter it.”


One social media user added: “It seems that these cyclists watch professionals throw gels and bars into the ditches on television and do the same.
“If the 312 doesn’t want to fall into total disrepute, they should set up a collection service along the entire route.”


“The inconvenience caused by the road closures is already enough without having to endure a trail of garbage stretching for miles across the Tramuntana,” said another local.
“It is also questionable that a sporting event, even one primarily aimed at amateurs, should need to have more than 8,000 participants. We doubt that Mallorca in general and the Tramuntana in particular have the capacity to deal with these massive and disproportionate loads.”


Responding to the complaints, the organisers noted that they have cleaned up two points along the route where rubbish was strewn away from the feed stations.
“We assume responsibility, apologise, and appreciate feedback received via email and social media,” they said in a statement.
Unfortunately, the Mallorca 312 was also the scene of tragedy on Saturday, following the death of British rider Phil Williams in an incident during the gran fondo.
Riding for Team Bottrill, Williams won the RTTC national 25-mile road bike championship in 2022. His club Liverpool Braveheart BC said he would be “deeply missed” and was “an exceptional bike rider and a wonderful person too”.
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You don't get to tell the government how to spend their money, you just have an option to try to kick them out every few years if you don't like what they did.
Halfords/ Boardman appears to favour carbon wheels at the higher end- the more costly gravels offer the Banzai! hookless Zipp 303S
A sprinters' festival makes for low TV ratings until 15 minutes before the end of the race. Unless crosswinds blow, then everything can happen.
I had a dream - the UCI asked Evenepoel, Swenson, Vinegegaard and other pros who got injured while out training to take part in a global campaign to promote safe cycling and raise all road users' (including pedestrians) awareness about the vulnerability of people who travel and commute on two wheels. It's about time to make cycling really SafeR, isn't it?
The impact went down into the frame and snapped the top and down tubes I'm assuming that's a carbon frame?
If Emily thinks that a migraine is instantly triggered by a bright light, and if she thinks that people with migraines are capable of continuing to drive whilst in the grip of one, then Emily doesn't really know what a migraine is.
I got car doored a couple of years ago. The left hand handkebar hit the edge of the opening door. The impact went down into the frame and snapped the top and down tubes. I went down, knocked out, but escaped with bad bruising.
I don't mind the no pockets but wish that Road.CC would show these jackets rolled up so we can gauge how packable they are.
Well I'm pretty sure I'm not on the right… I know the point you're making and indeed have often pointed out to people that they should look at their take-home pay and if they're happy with that stop worrying about what their employer gives to the government. However when I'm paying for my shopping it's not anybody else's money going on the VAT and duty, is it? If you frame Government expenditure as not taxpayers' money then you run into another problem which is if it's not our money then why should we have a right to have an input in telling the government how it should be spent?



















38 thoughts on ““The roads are not only paralysed – they’re dirty”: Locals slam “disgraceful trail of rubbish” left by cyclists during Mallorca 312 event; Should the Giro d’Italia be moved to August?; Tadej Pogačar casually chats… at 420 watts + more on the live blog”
I realise that these pictures
I realise that these pictures are probably designed to show the littering at its worst,. but really, what is the problem with people? They’ve managed to bring their gels etc to the event in their pockets but can’t manage to put the empty wrapper back in their pocket after, it’s absolutely pathetic. The same with many other similar events, such a disrespectful way to treat beautiful spaces and everyone and everything else that uses them.
I find that litter absolutely
I find that litter absolutely abhorrent. Shame on all those who littered. The anti-cycling brigade really don’t need any more ammo.
I think the answer is that
I think the answer is that food and drink may only be carried by riders (or support teams for riders) if they have been stamped or labelled with the riders’ numbers – or at least the team names. Then any found during the sweep up result in a time penalty on the rider. Results won’t be ratified until the clean-up.
Wrappers, bottles, anything.
If the litter is generic team supply, each rider in that team gets the time penalty.
Fines will be seen as the cost of doing business.
It might take a while initially. Once teams realise they will lose competitions by littering, the clean-up will be done in real time by the last vehicle in the caravan.
Although I seem to be
Although I seem to be confusing my events, so that may not work.
It’s a Grand Fondo not a pro
It’s a Gran Fondo not a pro race – the pro racers are pretty good about not littering nowadays and keeping their litter to drop until the designated zones.
ETA posted on an unrefreshed version of the page so didn’t see that you had corrected yourself!
This is already done in other
This is already done in other events, seems to be common in mountain marathons.
That said, I happened to be in Majorca when the 312 was on. Gel wrappers had been dropped all over the place even in the days before the event started. Not in the volume shown in the pics but they were still a fairly regular sight on the road. Are people terrified of touching a bit of goo or are the new in fashion pastel shade jersey pockets useless?
Drifting off topic… it does
Drifting off topic… it does seem that this year’s “Mallorca Look” is a super-aero jersey in what I can only describe as swamp beige coupled with a gilet unzipped flapping in the wind and handlebar bag, sending the overall CdA back to the 1950s?
Argggg! I was guilty of
Argggg! I was guilty of flapping gilet for about 1 km early last Wednesday. No swamp beige though and I’m sure nobody saw me (so it didn’t really happen.)
The house brick shaped bar bag with full aero is a curious one.
If there is one thing that
If there is one thing that screams “i’m a scumbag” its littering. Its the same sort of attitude that leads to drivers dangerously overtaking us to save 30s or less on their journeys. Fuck everyone else, its all about me, my comfort and my lazyness.
I have never considered littering in my life but then my parents impressed upon me that its something you don’t do. If I drop something accidentally I will chase it like a nutter before the wind takes it away because I hate it so much. When I walk my children to nursery I cannot walk more than 2m without seeing litter on the floor. I reckon that on average there are 2-3 pieces per metre which is disgraceful.
If they don’t want this event cancelled then they need to sort this out. Cleaning up the route afterwards isn’t the solution either. By that point god knows how much litter will have blown off the road.
All this does is add to the
All this does is add to the pressure on tourists and cyclists.
The event organisers must pay for the complete clean-up and should pass the cost on to entrants explicitly marked as a litter removal surcharge.
Anyone ever stopped at a layby in the UK? The packets, cans etc thrown into the hedgerow is enough to make anyone despair. we are disgusting…
Oh dear that is pretty poor.
Oh dear that is pretty poor. So depressing. Hopefully the organisers can clear up but absolutely the riders shouldnt act like spoilt brats…
Zjtm231 wrote:
I would hope that the organisers get the riders to clean it up.
It’s basic – if you bring it with you, take it away with you.
Truly pathetic, I’ve seen
Truly pathetic, I’ve seen this happening many places (and remonstrated with the perpetrators, in the unlikely event that I can catch up with them). It’s basically wannabe racers who like to act as if they are going so hard they just have time to bite the top off a gel, glug it and throw it down like the pros do (they obviously haven’t got the memo that pros have quite rightly been banned from doing it for quite a few years now). One would hope, perhaps romantically, that cyclists with their greater connection to their environment and their love of spectacular unspoiled countryside to ride in would take more care of it than motorists in insulated boxes throwing their wrappers out of the window; obviously not the case for a substantial number. I’d fully support the Council of Mallorca putting a €10 levy, or whatever they deem appropriate, on every entry fee next year to pay for the cleanup costs.
The biggest organised ride I
The biggest organised ride I’ve done was the Gravel Worlds last year in Lincoln, Nebraska. I stopped to pick up probably a dozen gel packets off the gravel roads. It probably cost me some time, but I was literally hours behind the leaders.
No wonder Jeremy Vine is
No wonder Jeremy Vine is hanging up his helmet cam – the rage we cyclists face is off the scale – Peter Walker (The Grauniad)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/30/jeremy-vine-cyclists-bike-road-rage-abuse-drivers-politicians
I used to frequent the same
I used to frequent the same local website that Peter mentions (we actually used to live on the same estate, where I believe he still lives – I still have a couple of excellent jerseys that he kindly passed on to me, freebies he didn’t want) and had exactly the same experience, if you so much as mentioned that parts of the area were much nicer since LTNs you were immediately accused of hating the elderly, the disabled, mothers with small children, mothers with large children, hard-working tradesmen, ambulances, fire engines and essentially everything that has made Britain great. As usual it was just a tiny minority of the members making the vast majority of anti-cyclist posts but I left in the end as it was just too wearing.
A rearguard action in a
A rearguard action in a culture war that they have lost, but don’t know it yet.
They are after you
They are after you chrisonabike !
https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2025/04/five-things-you-need-to-know-today-1889/
Yikes, no response from Chris
Yikes, no response from Chris. I do hope he is ok and hasn’t gone after that Murray eejit😯
South Edinburgh? I try to
South Edinburgh? I try to avoid it, filled with backwaters like Morningside, Craiglockhart and Colinton *.
e-things? Not my bag (currently) – I just get asked if I’m riding one when on the recumbent or the hub-geared bike. And if they’re worried about ebikes down there they should come up to the likes of Pilton and Muirhouse and see how the boys get about on their full-on electric motorbikes here.
The stations have been having a go at ebikes also – though the last time I was by Waverley there were still a few parked.
* TBF Wester Hailes, Broomhouse and Burdiehouse have a bit of a reputation…
The behaviour of many
The behaviour of many cyclists when it comes to littering is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves. They think they look pro, cause they see the pros doing it – the UCI should start fining the living daylights out of the pros for this.
Paul J wrote:
FTFY
I deny collective responsibility.
brooksby wrote:
Not on my behalf, you don’t!
I agree. There is no excuse
I agree. There is no excuse for littering. Empty gel packs can be put in jersey pockets and disposed of. They can be put in a small plastic bag to avoid causing staining. What the pros do or don’t do is irrelevant – their peletons aren’t in the thousands and there are people to clear up after them.
Paul J wrote:
They already do, with fines of between 100 and 1000 Swiss francs (£90-£900) for littering, with time penalties and potential disqualification for repeat offences. Watch any pro race these days and you’ll pretty much never see a rider fail to put their rubbish back in their pockets except in the designated drop zones. You’re right that these idiots think that they are acting like pros but it’s pros from a decade or more ago.
Re. the race calendar – just
Re. the race calendar – just combine the grand tours into one nine-week-long Girouruelta, thereby opening up the rest of the calendar to fit everything else in – sorted!
Or just scrap them & we can
Or just scrap them & we can have the Spring Classics & then the Summer Classics. Like Flanders & Roubaix but with potentially better weather (not that it’s been a problem in recent times) & slightly wider bergs.
Then again, that might require laying pavé up Alpe D’Huez and removing road surfaces on various Italian mountains for that strade bianca feel…..
Clem Fandango wrote:
Were they responsible for the cyclocross anthem “Mud, mud, glorious mud”?
Yeah – basically a Belgian
Yeah – basically a Belgian Mulligan & O’Hare
I’m in Mallorca now (we have
I’m in Mallorca now (we have a place here so I’m here a lot). The littering was only in a few places – I’m going to charitably suggest that it was after the obvious feeding spots where people didn’t put the empty sachet back in their pocket properly and it fell out. I walked some of the route near Alaro and I only saw one 226ers gel packet which looked like it had been there a while and – weirdly – one plastic tyre lever. The photos published are a bit like the long-lens “aren’t there a lot of cyclists in bunches” photos in Regent’s Park during covid.
Also, the 312 organisation have swept the course so it only looked like that for a few hours.
All that said, cyclists have massively overstayed their welcome on the island; there are just far too many for them to coexist with locals trying to get on with their day. When I see the way the groups ride and behave in the villages it makes me embarrassed to be associated with them (obviously my neighbours see me going out on the bike most days).
What will the locals do when
What will the locals do when they stop tourism and the island falls into disrepair because there is no money?
As for the littering, it’s pretty pathetic the clowns who did this.
dubwise wrote:
They will discover that they can generate income in other ways, this is such a tired and boring argument. Or maybe they can become a tourist hub for people that don’t think they own the place?
Used this shared path near
Used this shared path near Weybridge at the weekend.
Let’s just slap some paint down. The cycle path should be continuous with a big stop line at the pillars for anyone coming out of the school.
But this is the UK.
On one near me it gives way
On one near me it gives way to private driveways as well as side roads. Can’t have anyone thinking that cyclists are anything but an afterthought.
They should just have done it
They should just have done it in grey paint the same shade as the tarmac. That way they could say they’ve done it but nobody would have to look at it (it’s clear that would be its biggest effect on the world).
Or perhaps they could only have said they’d done it and if people couldn’t actually see the cycle markings that was their problem.
OTOH I’m all for actually marking separate pedestrian and cycling spaces (even thought it’s going to be ignored in the UK … until we get to the point where there are enough people cycling that pedestrians stick to their space). Just not by sticking paint on an inadequate footway and not considering junctions though.
It’s not good, is it? But
It’s not good, is it? But sadly it’s fairly typical of “cycling infrastructure” around here. I use that section from time to time, almost always heading east, and that’s one of the points to be wary at.
Worse though, IMHO, is what you’d have encountered a few minutes earlier if you were heading west. You cross the bridge over the River Wey in the ‘bike lane’ painted onto the side of the road. Then the bike lane goes onto its own path on the left. “Nice”, you think, and then find about 20 metres further on you’re shown a ‘No Cycling’ sign, and directed across the busy A317 onto the bike lane on the other side of the road…
I think I’ve found the
I think I’ve found the culprit who was littering
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/28-gels-and-200g-of-carbs-per-hour-power-cameron-wurf-reveals-insane-fuelling-strategy-after-setting-ironman-world-record/
Re: Mallorca312
Re: Mallorca312
Usually I would generally look at local authority slamming an event as local politicians looking to win votes, but on this occasion I think I have to agree with them. The being ‘locked in the house’ argument is not the best one to use, in my opinion. That’s just a NIMBY argument as I’m sure they’re fans of whatever event that affects local residents, be it a pop concert, football match, golf tournament, etc.
The leaving of litter and not cleaning up by the organisers is a different kettle of fish and a fully justified complaint. That is disgraceful and a clear indication of the attitude of the organisers which they have compounded by ignoring the problem, removing social media posts that draw attention to the problem and have banned people from participating in conversations that might show the event in anything but glowing terms. There should be a guarantee, supported with a bond, from the organisers that they will clean up afterwards. If they want to keep the NIMBYs happy, leaving litter is completely the wrong way.
If the organisers are denied a licence to run the event again, they only have themselves to blame.