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“Why, oh why did I think I could defy physics and geometry?”: A very painful crash taking out bottom bottle on the fly; New bike day nightmare; Wahoo issues continue; Brennan wins again; Bike brand’s bankruptcy; Doping ban + more on the live blog

Dan Alexander is on live blog duty for you today, rounding up all the news, reaction, opinions and silliness from the world of cycling this Thursday
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Aug 21, 2025 08:04
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SUMMARY

  • New bike day nightmare as Pinarello paintjob instantly "ruined" by "random gust of wind" mid-photo, but others console rider: "It's not wall art, it's meant to be ridden and get scuffed up"
  • Wahoo issues continue for first generation bike computer owners
  • What the...?! Riding 750km without leaving Amsterdam
  • Plenty of road.cc readers have been hit by Wahoo's week of woes
  • "If he doesn't win the Vuelta it would be quite surprising": Alberto Contador calls Jonas Vingegaard the "clear favourite" for the final Grand Tour of the season
  • Owner of territorial dog opposes cycle path claiming disturbance from cyclists will lead to "excessive barking"
  • "Big shout-out for putting a spotlight on the many problems caused by councils chopping and changing e-bike hire licences"
  • Yes, yes I did...
  • Major Polish bike manufacturer files for bankruptcy after 24 years in business
  • Cyclist sentenced for 'furious driving' offence after pavement crash leaves pedestrian with fractured skull
  • Franck Bonnamour banned for four years
  • Bin lorry driver who killed 11-year-old cycling to school after "failing to account for vulnerable road users" avoids jail
  • WHAT. A. TALENT! Matthew Brennan beats Jonathan Milan in a flat sprint
  • "Why, oh why did I think I could defy physics and geometry?": A very painful crash after trying to take out bottom bottle on the fly
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21 August 2025, 08:04

New bike day nightmare as Pinarello paintjob instantly "ruined" by "random gust of wind" mid-photo, but others console rider: "It's not wall art, it's meant to be ridden and get scuffed up"

How it started:

New bike day nightmare, Pinarello paintjob
New bike day nightmare, Pinarello paintjob (Image Credit: SlowMarionberry3282/Reddit)
New bike day nightmare, Pinarello paintjob
New bike day nightmare, Pinarello paintjob (Image Credit: SlowMarionberry3282/Reddit)

 

How it’s going:

New bike day nightmare, Pinarello paintjob
New bike day nightmare, Pinarello paintjob (Image Credit: SlowMarionberry3282/Reddit)
New bike day nightmare, Pinarello paintjob
New bike day nightmare, Pinarello paintjob (Image Credit: SlowMarionberry3282/Reddit)

Pain. This Pinarello owner was taking a photo of their new pride and joy when “a random gust of wind blew it over and ruined the paint job”. Ouch. And while plenty on the ever-sympathetic internet have told the rider to get on with it, bikes are meant to be ridden and all that, both can probably be true in this case.

Yes, your bike isn’t going to stay pristine forever if you’re riding it regularly, but yes, it is also bloody irritating to do that on day one before the pedals have even been turned. Anyway, the owner says they’ve managed to touch up the chip so it’s not quite so obvious.

“At least it’s non drive side,” they added. “Time to hammer this thing off-road and put some more scratches on it, I guess.”

That’s the spirit! Not that it stopped the horde of comments along the lines of “it’s a bike designed to ride on dirt… it’s gonna get dinged up” and “it’s not wall art… it’s meant to be ridden and get scuffed up”.

The rider got back: “It is what it is. Was super upset about it, but I can’t waste energy on something I can’t control. Lesson learned. More time riding, less time taking photos…”

As someone else suggested: “If mother nature isn’t blowing headwind, she’s blowing your bike over.”

Other comments included…

“That’s like an ongoing nightmare scenario for me. I actually don’t need my bikes to be pristine. I ride them, a lot. And if the cosmetic damage is earned through riding (rock strike, etc.) it doesn’t bother me. But if I decide to lean it up somewhere and then it falls over…that’s the kind of damage that causes me rage (mostly at myself).”

“Man, that hurts. Did the same to my new bike, leaning it on a wall to buy ice cream… rolled a bit and scratched the top tube on the wall. I feel you.”

Top comment though? That would be: “The wind did no such thing, ’twas vanity marred the steed.”

21 August 2025, 08:04

Wahoo issues continue for first generation bike computer owners

Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer - side.jpg
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer - side (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer - side.jpg
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer – side (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

No major update from Wahoo on the situation affecting its first generation bike computers this week. As we explained yesterday, owners have reported significant “data and ride recording issues” since the weekend, online forums full of cyclists reporting problems with their first generation Wahoo Elemnt, Bolt and Roam computers.

Bizarrely, the issue appears to be that devices are resetting to the year 2006 because the older devices use a “limited 10-bit system to track GPS time”, the date issue then causing further GPS problems.

On Tuesday, Wahoo said it “now fully understands the root cause of the issue” and is “working around the clock on a fix”, however there’s been no major update since. Last night, a Wahoo spokesperson said:

We continue to apply absolute focus to resolve the current challenge affecting first-generation Elemnt devices. As we continue to work to address this issue, please remember that we offer an app that you can use to record your rides, pair your bike’s sensors, and share to third party services. We sincerely appreciate your continued patience.

Let’s hope we have more positive news to bring you soon. 

21 August 2025, 08:04

What the...?! Riding 750km without leaving Amsterdam

 

Well that’s got to be worth some kudos…

21 August 2025, 08:04

Plenty of road.cc readers have been hit by Wahoo's week of woes

Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer - mounted.jpg
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer - mounted (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer - mounted.jpg
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer – mounted (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A few of you have reported issues with your first generation Wahoo cycle computers this week.

Inthedark1: “I have two Wahoo first generation Elemnts. I loaded a 200km ride on one device and lent it to someone else to use on a camping trip in West Wales. It failed to work at all. He had to resort to strapping his phone to the handlebars and doing short sections on Google Maps. I tried to use the other device myself but it froze on the track and was unusable. I tried a factory reset and repairing it with my phone but it made no difference.”

Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer.jpg
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer.jpg
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Sedis: “Presumably related to this, for the last few days, if I start at a location other than my home, any rides get recorded as ‘indoor cycling’. More annoyingly instead of showing my usual ‘pages’ I get a completely different set.”

fincon1: “Both my wife and I use 1st gen Wahoos and both had issues during a charity ride on Sunday. Luckily we both knew our routes because the Wahoos were unusable. At one point mine had me doing 132mph. I defy even Pogačar to match that!”

Don’t tell the Telegraph that cyclists are hitting 132mph…

Reggie Perrin: “I maxed out at 115mph on a country lane on Sunday. I took a photo of my Wahoo just in case nobody believed that I could go that fast on a bike.”

wtjs: “If I were a Wahoo user I would be encouraged by the company getting on with a fix fairly quickly. I still enjoy being at a stage where I’m amazed these wonderful devices work at all — I’ve just bought a 2 generations obsolete Garmin Forerunner 255 and it’s much better than I expected — the much disparaged ‘breadcrumb navigation’ works perfectly both on the road and on the fells once you have a route loaded, although it’s useless if you don’t as there are no ‘features’ on the map. However, I expect that one day this watch and the Edge 1040 will fail catastrophically, although I hope not at the same time. I am fairly confident that Garmin will then fix the problem rapidly.”

stonojnr: “Well it’s nice of them to fix it of course, some might say that’s the bare minimum they could do to support their own eco system and not wreck their reputation, but this sounds from the speculation to be a Y2K style bug, they didn’t allocate enough memory to support an internal date counter. Which seems remarkable for stuff that’s not even a decade old in lifespan yet, given we learnt those lessons three decades ago. So no doubt it all bricks itself again in 2038.”

Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer - side.jpg
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer - side (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer - side.jpg
Wahoo Elemnt Bolt GPS bike computer – side (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

mdavidford: “If you’re still using your 1st gen Elemnt in 2038, I will be more than impressed.”

Well, if it does indeed brick itself in 2038 and people are still using the first gen devices, I’m sure an AI influencer will be along to livestream the event on whatever platform is the next decade’s TikTok. Hopefully we’ll still be around too…

21 August 2025, 08:04

"If he doesn't win the Vuelta it would be quite surprising": Alberto Contador calls Jonas Vingegaard the "clear favourite" for the final Grand Tour of the season

Jonas Vingegaard
Jonas Vingegaard (Image Credit: A.S.O./Aurélien Vialatte)
Jonas Vingegaard
Jonas Vingegaard (Image Credit: A.S.O./Aurélien Vialatte)

Who better to ask for a Vuelta prediction than Alberto Contador?

The Spaniard, unsurprisingly considering the Dane is the bookies’ heavily odds-on favourite for the race, reckons Jonas Vingegaard is the man to beat. 

“It’s clear that Vingegaard is the favourite, and for me, the clear favourite. But many things can happen on a Grand Tour,” Contador told TNT Sports ahead of their coverage of the final three-week race of the season.

Jonas Vingegaard
Jonas Vingegaard (Image Credit: ASO/Charly Lopez)
Jonas Vingegaard
Jonas Vingegaard (Image Credit: ASO/Charly Lopez)

“I think with Vingegaard, everyone knows he is the second-best Grand Tour rider in the world behind Tadej Pogačar. I think that if he doesn’t win the Vuelta it would be quite surprising, but at the same time I don’t think he has anything to prove because of what he has done at the Tour de France in previous years.

“It’s his second Grand Tour of the year after the Tour de France. So we will need to see how he has recovered, but in theory he should be better than the rest.”

Vingegaard will have no shortage of support for his Vuelta tilt, Visma-Lease a Bike also taking Matteo Jorgenson and 2023 winner Sepp Kuss. It promises to be the latest instalment of the Visma vs UAE rivalry and while there’ll be no Pogačar on the start line in Turin, João Almeida and Juan Ayuso should be plenty threat enough.

Ineos Grenadiers have now confirmed Egan Bernal is leading them, while there’s a nice surprise on the Alpecin-Deceuninck squad list, Jasper Philipsen returning to Grand Tour action following his premature Tour de France departure. It promises to be a long three weeks for the sprinters due to the typically apocalyptically tough Vuelta route. Any chances for the fast men now even tougher with Philipsen rocking up as well.

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21 August 2025, 08:04

Owner of territorial dog opposes cycle path claiming disturbance from cyclists will lead to "excessive barking"

Pentre road shared use path, Pontarddulais
Pentre road shared use path, Pontarddulais (Image Credit: Google Street View)
Pentre road shared use path, Pontarddulais
Pentre road shared use path, Pontarddulais (Image Credit: Google Street View)

> Owner of territorial dog opposes cycle path claiming disturbance from cyclists will lead to “excessive barking”

21 August 2025, 08:04

"Big shout-out for putting a spotlight on the many problems caused by councils chopping and changing e-bike hire licences"

The London Cycling Campaign appeared on BBC London to continue the discussion kicked off by Dara Ó Briain about e-bike hire in the English capital…

👏 Big shout-out to @daraobriain for putting a spotlight on the many problems caused by councils chopping and changing e-bike hire licences!

Our CEO Tom Fyans gave his thoughts on the issue to @BBCLondonNews… 👇 pic.twitter.com/Ii4pYVXavu

— London Cycling Campaign (@London_Cycling) August 21, 2025

21 August 2025, 08:04

Yes, yes I did...

Live blog comment 21/8/2025
2025 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Live blog comment 21/8/2025
2025 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

21 August 2025, 08:04

Major Polish bike manufacturer files for bankruptcy after 24 years in business

Polish bike manufacturer 7Anna, which owns brands such as Rondo, NS Bikes and Creme Cycles, has filed for bankruptcy.

The 24-year-old company is one of the oldest and best known Polish cycling businesses, however its CEO this week revealed the bankruptcy news.

“The series of blows that hit us were too hard. Sometimes you have to fall to rise stronger,” the CEO Tomasz Cybula commented, but he did also insist it would not be the end for “one of Poland’s best bicycle companies”.

A marketing manager at gravel bike brand Rondo also said the past few years had been “an enormous challenge” for the wider business, but added “we’re still fighting for the future of our brands”.

21 August 2025, 08:04

Cyclist sentenced for 'furious driving' offence after pavement crash leaves pedestrian with fractured skull

Belt Road, Derry
Belt Road, Derry (Image Credit: Google Street View)
Belt Road, Derry
Belt Road, Derry (Image Credit: Google Street View)

> Cyclist sentenced for ‘furious driving’ offence after pavement crash leaves pedestrian with fractured skull

21 August 2025, 08:04

Franck Bonnamour banned for four years

Franck Bonnamour, Critérium du Dauphiné 2023 (A.S.O./Billy Ceusters)
Billy Ceusters) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Franck Bonnamour, Critérium du Dauphiné 2023 (A.S.O./Billy Ceusters)
Billy Ceusters) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The UCI has released a statement announcing that French rider Franck Bonnamour has been suspended for four years. Bonnamour most recently road for Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale but hasn’t raced since an abnormality in his Biological Passport was revealed in February 2024. That related to his 2022 season and the UCI has now confirmed a four-year ban.

The ban will be backdated to 5 February 2024 and remain in force until 4 February 2028. In a statement released this afternoon, the UCI said: “The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) announces that the UCI Anti-Doping Tribunal has rendered a decision against French rider Franck Bonnamour.

Franck Bonnamour, 2022 Tour de France stage 01 (ASO/Charly Lopez)
Charly Lopez) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Franck Bonnamour, 2022 Tour de France stage 01 (ASO/Charly Lopez)
Charly Lopez) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“The Tribunal found that Franck Bonnamour had committed an Anti-Doping Rule Violation (ADRV) for use of a prohibited substance or a prohibited method due to an unexplained abnormality in his Athlete Biological Passport in 2022. As a consequence, the Tribunal has imposed a four-year period of ineligibility on the rider.

“The period of ineligibility started on 5 February 2024 and will remain in force until 4 February 2028 in accordance with the World Anti-Doping Code and the UCI Anti-Doping Rules. Furthermore, in line with the Procedural Rules of the Anti-Doping Tribunal, the decision will be published on the UCI website. The decision may be appealed before the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) within one month. The UCI will not comment further on the matter.”

21 August 2025, 08:04

21 August 2025, 08:04

Bin lorry driver who killed 11-year-old cycling to school after "failing to account for vulnerable road users" avoids jail

Thomas Wong and Whitehouse Road, Edinburgh
Thomas Wong and Whitehouse Road, Edinburgh (Image Credit: Police Scotland and Google Street View)
Thomas Wong and Whitehouse Road, Edinburgh
Thomas Wong and Whitehouse Road, Edinburgh (Image Credit: Police Scotland and Google Street View)

> Bin lorry driver who killed 11-year-old cycling to school after “failing to account for vulnerable road users” avoids jail

21 August 2025, 08:04

WHAT. A. TALENT! Matthew Brennan beats Jonathan Milan in a flat sprint

That’s the 11th win of Matthew Brennan’s season, the 20-year-old (yep, that’s born in 2005 folks) outsprinting Jonathan Milan to a latest sensational victory. Most of his wins thus far have come on punchier days, but to beat the Tour de France’s green jersey winner in a flat finish? That’s quite special.

Photo finish in Germany 😳

Matthew Brennan takes the win ahead of Jonathan Milan after a sprint that was this close 🤏 pic.twitter.com/9pg0dvZMmZ

— Cycling on TNT Sports (@cyclingontnt) August 21, 2025

21 August 2025, 08:04

"Why, oh why did I think I could defy physics and geometry?": A very painful crash after trying to take out bottom bottle on the fly

Here’s another painful one from Reddit, one rider dubbing themself “the idiot and the bottom bottle”. If I show you their set-up you can probably take a decent guess about what happened.

Bottle crash
Bottle crash (Image Credit: SpacedEcho/Reddit)
Bottle crash
Bottle crash (Image Credit: SpacedEcho/Reddit)

They ended up with a shattered nose, a rip from the inside and outside of the upper lip, broken 4th and 5th metacarpals with deep bone bruises over the fingers of their left hand, and “the worst oozing road rash I’ve ever had in my life on my face and hand”.

Incredibly, they escaped with no concussion, no neck injury and the bike is “relatively unscathed” apart from the some broken bars and scratched hoods.

It all happened when they tried to take a sip from that bottom bottle on the fly, trying to pull out the bottle from underneath the downtube.

“On most bikes, it’s obvious that it’s impossible to grab a bottle down there while riding,” the poor rider wrote. “Why, oh why did I think I could defy physics and geometry and grab it in motion on my Crux? Just look at it. Clearly there’s no space for it to disengage from the cage and avoid hitting the tyre…

“I knew this was a bad idea before I even attempted it. All logic was flashing a warning sign in my psyche to not attempt this foolish manoeuvre. I’ve looked at my bike loaded with three water bottles numerous times and thought to myself ‘No way could I grab that bottom bottle while riding’. However, I saw a break in traffic on a busy road that I was crossing to get from one side of the trail to the other, and because I was in a hurry, my lack of good judgment got the best of me.

“Rather than stopping at the trail crossing, disengaging from my pedals, slowly reaching for my third bottle, swapping it with my empty bottle, then patiently waiting to cross the road during another break in traffic, I made one the biggest mistakes I’ve ever made in my 20 years of cycling, and it almost cost me my life.”

It all happened at around 15mph, the rider seeing a “sudden flash of blue sky whiz past followed by an immediate blackness accompanied by a crack of thunder between my ears”.

“I sprang to my feet and immediately thought ‘This didn’t just happen’,” they continued. “I looked down at my hands and felt what I thought was hot water soaking my gloves. Suddenly, my vision turned from black and white to technicolour and what I thought was hot water was blood pouring out of my face. My water bottle had been sucked out of my hand by the rubber of my tyre and shot up into the fork which stopped the front wheel and pitched me over the bars onto my face. I took my helmet off and saw that I had broken the front off of it. More blood all over the trail and grass and my shoes and kit and sunglasses and everything.

Bottle crash
Bottle crash (Image Credit: SpacedEcho/Reddit)
Bottle crash
Bottle crash (Image Credit: SpacedEcho/Reddit)

“What sucks the most is this this terrible mistake has taken me away from my family, meaning my wife is pretty much on the hook for doing everything for our two-year-old for the next month while I recover from my broken hand as I’m unable to pick him up or perform any two-handed fine motor skills. But my helmet saved my life. I’m upright, breathing, walking, thinking, talking, and forever grateful. I get to live another day as a dad and husband and son and brother and friend and neighbour and co-worker etc. That could have all ended in a split second because I was in such a hurry to shave 30 seconds off of my ride.

“So. As if you really needed anyone to tell you, don’t try to grab the third water bottle. Take your time. Listen to your conscience.”

21 August 2025, 08:04

Why are people riding drop handlebars on mountain bikes?: Cory Wallace on the realities of drop bar off-road riding

Why are people riding drop handlebars on mountain bikes?: Cory Wallace on the realities of drop bar off-road riding

We catch up with multiple 24-Hour MTB World Champion Cory Wallace, a veteran of both dropped and flat bars at Leadville and elsewhere, to hear his thoughts and experiences on riding both in off-road race anger.

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Dan was the road.cc news editor from 2022-2026. He joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan mainly wrote news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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9 thoughts on ““Why, oh why did I think I could defy physics and geometry?”: A very painful crash taking out bottom bottle on the fly; New bike day nightmare; Wahoo issues continue; Brennan wins again; Bike brand’s bankruptcy; Doping ban + more on the live blog”

  1. mdavidford
    August 21, 2025 at 9:04 am
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    Feeling like you missed the

    Feeling like you missed the opportunity for an “Amster… Damn!” headline there.

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  2. chrisonabike
    August 21, 2025 at 9:13 am
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    RE: Amsterdam – sounds like a

    RE: Amsterdam – sounds like a (fairly) fleet feast of fiets feats for the fiesta!

    Hopefully they did it in proper style on an opa/omafiets?  Although maybe not carrying someone on the back…

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  3. Karbonlite
    August 21, 2025 at 12:39 pm
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    16.5 MPH avg speed on busy

    16.5 MPH avg speed on busy small streets and cycling infrastructure of a big town like Amsterdam is crazy, even for one hour of riding at night time when most of the people sleep. 

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  4. lesterama
    August 21, 2025 at 12:49 pm
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    Pinarello Grevil: maybe the

    Pinarello Grevil: maybe the blemish will help distract from all the ugly-injections that poor bike had.

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  5. Mybike
    August 21, 2025 at 1:25 pm
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    Best get a chip on the first

    Best get a chip on the first day Get it out of the way and stop worrying about getting one. This is why I have a red bike red car red motorcycle Hate that color so no worries in getting it scrathed or chip.

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  6. Gary31
    August 21, 2025 at 4:34 pm
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    I am one of those with a

    I am one of those with a first generation wahoo ELEMNT who is also having problems. Date recording as 2006, loss of gps signal during ride and also managing to clock an amazing 219kph !!! First happened on Sunday and I was worried thr unit was dying but on Tuesday I received an email from wahoo explaining they knew the issue, we’re working on it and will issue a correction in a few days. I was actually quite impressed with them being proactive. It’s not the end of the world, I am sure we can survive a few more days. 

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  7. SecretSam
    August 22, 2025 at 6:57 am
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    Fortunately, I’ve just bought

    Fortunately, I’ve just bought a new Roam 3, so my first gen Bolt going haywire isn’t an issue. It’s been pretty faultless since I bought it, although the LEDs have pretty much a mind of their own now. Still, not bad for nearly ten years. And at least it doesn’t bleep every 10 seconds like the Roam…

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  8. SecretSam
    August 22, 2025 at 6:58 am
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    Scratching a Pinarello can

    Scratching a Pinarello can only improve its looks

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  9. kingleo
    August 22, 2025 at 8:51 am
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    Dogs bark at pedestrians on

    Dogs bark at pedestrians on the pavement, no problem with that, but there is with  dogs barking at cyclists on cycle paths.

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SVXY 2 hours ago

@SVXY Rule 66 of the highway code says you can ride two abreast but to also 'be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in groups.' It does not say you can ride three or four abreast which would not be considerate of the needs of other road users. As the highway code is used by prosecution lawyers as evidence to convict in Road Traffic Act offences cases you certainly could therefore be prosecuted and convicted for careless cycling if cycling three or four abreast

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
mdavidford 2 hours ago

@SVXY This is a curious tactic - rebutting your own argument with your very next sentence.

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
No Reply 2 hours ago

Affordable? Starting at £6K? You 'having a larf?

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chrisonabike 3 hours ago

@SVXY Ah, so it *is* the "flood the zone with shit" argumentation technique then? Or perhaps ... you are genuinely unclear about the difference between the Highway code and the law (and perhaps the difference between cyclists, drivers and indeed horse riders? And rusty on safe practice? As mdavidford notes you appear to be confusing rule with Rule 66 (for cyclists, which doesn't say anything about not riding x abreast) with Rule 53 (for horse riders which gives guidance not to more than double up - I don't think this is a direct summary of any law since "should" not "must"). Charitably I'm going with "*i* know what it says!" which as I noted many of people feel they do. Anyway away with you, I feel you've had your fill of attention for today.

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
kingleo 3 hours ago

Road tax was abolished in 1937 by Winston Churchill because, as he said, "road tax makes motorists believe they are the moral owners of our roads." He got that right.

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SVXY 3 hours ago

@SVXY None of the magistrates who sentenced him said the CPS should have charged him with dangerous driving. Why should they? He was not speeding, he was not on his phone and he was not drunk or under the influence of drugs either

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
Rendel Harris 4 hours ago

@SVXY The court does not decide on whether someone was driving carelessly or dangerously, they can only decide on the guilt or otherwise of the defendant on the charge the CPS decides to lay against them. The CPS is notorious for preferring to charge careless rather than dangerous because it's an easier win; this results in entirely unjust sentences such as this one.

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
SVXY 4 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Wearing sandals may be fine if cycling on tracks over fields or in a quiet residential street with a 20 or 30mph limit. It is not sensible cycling on a 60mph main road

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
belugabob 4 hours ago

@chrisonabike maybe, but things that used to be banter & jokes in the 1960s/1970s have (thankfully) become socially unacceptable , and this is mostly because enough people spoke up about it. We even managed to make drink-driving a lot less acceptable, by the same means.

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
SVXY 4 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Yes, he was driving at 55mph in a 60mph road. The court verdict was he was not driving dangerously but carelessly eg he should have had his visor down to keep out the sun so he could monitor the road ahead.

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