Plans to extend a shared walking and cycling path, which the government says will increase connectivity and provide safer active travel routes for local communities, boosting their health and wellbeing, have been heavily criticised by residents, with one responding to the launch of the project’s consultation process by branding the scheme “a waste of money when the NHS is in need, families are going hungry, and old people can’t heat their homes”.
Last week, the Welsh government and the Mid Wales Trunk Road Agent (NMWTRA) presented their proposals for phase two of the Llandrindod Wells to Howey Active Travel Route, phase one of which was commenced in October 2022, and which will involve widening and improving the surfaces of the existing pavements to create a shared-use walking and cycling path between the spa town and the neighbouring village in Powys.
According to the Welsh government, the active travel scheme – which also includes upgrading footways to provide pedestrian priority across side roads and updated signal-controlled junctions – will help reduce reliance on single-occupancy car use, protect vulnerable road users, benefit the health and wellbeing of local communities in Powys, and reduce emissions.
By linking Llandrindod with its neighbouring communities towards Howey through safer active travel infrastructure – albeit without segregated walking and cycling routes due to restrictions on the road corridor by adjoining properties – Wales’ Deputy Minister for Climate Change Lee Waters says the scheme will “encourage more and more people to regularly walk and cycle for journeys instead of using a car, connecting people with where they live and where they need to go”.
The Welsh government also said that the scheme forms part of its plan, required by the Active Travel (Wales) Act, to foster “significant health benefits for individuals” through active travel.
“Walking and cycling for short journeys can also increase levels of physical activity, supporting both physical and mental health,” the government said.
However, despite its claimed health and societal benefits, the scheme has been branded a “shameful and unforgivable waste of money” by some residents, who claim the funding could have been better spent on the NHS.
Commenting on the local council’s social media announcement of the scheme’s month-long public consultation process, which runs until 14 December, Alison Dale wrote: “What a waste of money. When the NHS is in need, and families going hungry, old people can’t heat [their] homes, but let’s put a cycle track in – bloody crazy. I think I have ever seen about two people on bikes on the first bit.”
“They are determined to take our cars off us in the name of a non-existent climate crisis,” added Peter Gilbert.
Meanwhile, Gilbert – who says he enjoys walking and cycling – also criticised the decision to narrow part of the road to allow for the widened shared-use path, which he described as a “a total act of irresponsible stupidity”.
“Widen footpaths/cycle lanes as much as you like IF you use or buy up space in the neighbouring fields,” concurred Rory Johnson.
“But, let’s keep it simple: Don’t narrow the existing road! That road is a through road – for people getting through Mid Wales. We have no bypasses, no dual carriageway, no motorways. For most of our journeys it’s the only road, and constricting it with bike lanes/wider footpath (which will remain largely empty) will create a problem rather than solve one.”
“Great idea making the pavements wider than the road! I know someone [who has] lost three wing mirrors already,” Andria Davies added.
Another resident, lorry driver Michael Gough, claimed that his company’s lorries have mounted the pavement on certain sections of the new route, and called on Powys County Council to share the results of a safety assessment carried out earlier this year by the Mid Wales Trunk Road Agent.
“I have said on many occasions that there are no issues with cycle paths, but Powys have put this in the wrong place and need to learn from this before any more are built,” he said.
Responding to Gough’s complaint, Lib Dem county councillor Jake Berriman wrote: “I absolutely share your frustration at not being given the stage 3 audit as requested. I accept that puts us in a very poor light, but assure you that I have not seen it, having repeatedly asked officers for it, who have requested permission from the Government to release it.
“It is quite unacceptable the way we are all treated by the Welsh Government.”
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Losing one wing mirror is a misfortune, losing three looks like carelessness.
Fortunately, their door
Fortunately, their door mirrors are fine.
There’s no mention on how or
There’s no mention on how or why they’ve lost these wing mirrors.
Wonder if trucks driving on the pavements have anything to do with it?
The funny thing about some
The funny thing about some drivers is that they are so thick that they don’t realise that all they are advertising is that they are bad drivers. The same ones that think “I couldn’t see so I just pulled straight out” is a commentary on their lack of blame for an accident rather than an admission that they are just bad drivers.
They don’t seem to understand
They don’t seem to understand the relationship between active travel and costs to the NHS. Money spent on getting people more active is going to be far more effective than keeping people sat in motor cars and then paying for their treatments.
So, if you want the NHS to be better funded, start walking or cycling.
Too many people expect the
Too many people expect the NHS to fix them. They want the magic pill. We really need to change the language to how people can fix themselves. Obviously, this requires tools and better infra is part of that. The question is why isn’t this message getting through?
IanMK wrote:
Is it something to do with the oil/motor industry spending loads of money to influence politicians?
It’s not just the oil
It’s not just the oil companies don’t forget Big Pharma.
I also think it’s the nature of modern society, quick fix mentality.
We also have to present these facts in a way that doesn’t look like virtue signalling or fat shaming. That’s going to be an instant turn off.
IanMK wrote:
And its all going to get so much better now we have Peter Thiel and Palantir involved in running the NHS databases…
Perhaps we don’t feel sense
Perhaps we don’t feel sense the importance of maintaining health, because we’ve less experience of lack of it in general and particularly when we’re younger? Historically in the UK it’s also never been better to be unwell (you almost certainly won’t starve while you’re incapacitated for a start).
IanMK wrote:
In part it’s because this message, while it’s clearly known throughout the NHS is filtered down via local CCG’s through the local PCN’s (which are generally ‘very’ self serving) and left to individuals to liaise work with/within GP surgeries communicating the very simple message of prescribing physical health to reduce/prevent/negate reliance on drugs and NHS services.
This wouldn’t be a massive issue if there was any emphasis on delivering the message like they mean it.. BUT that message is ‘actually’ left to GP’s to deliver to patients.. BUT because GP’s have been had how they gather funds changed (radically) over the past few years, with the emphasis put on prioritsing ‘chains of surgeries, run by the same people who run the local PCN’s, they have no real incentive to change how they do things,or give time to a random individual who’s been employed to ‘educate’ GP’s on why they need to prescribe joining a ‘local walking group and change their lifestyle to help with diabeties or mental health’ .. add in the fact that an awful lot of ‘non GP practice owning GP’s don’t do anything over and above what they absolutley need to do within their contracted hours.. and this is my long winded way of saying the message is mostly watered down to be ineffective and the NHS in my opinion is wholly kneecapped by bureaucracy, greed at all levels and inflexible contracts.
hawkinspeter wrote:
The attached image is from a recent presentation by Prof Scarlett McNally (an NHS surgeon) talking about the many benefits of exercise:
But it’s not going to happen when the DfT (hounded by Shropshire Council Tories and our corrupt MP) is happy to spend up to £200m on one quarter of a ring road around Shrewsbury. That’s £78m more than Active Travel England’s ENTIRE BUDGET for 2023-2024!
And the inappropriately named ‘relief’ road will not even begin to address the problems we face.
That’s exactly what I was
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Even when the gene geenie was cruel to me I was operated on and out of hospital in 3.5days because I was active, and I bet I cost less than a lot of folk who go through the same major surgery and are in there for weeks because of their life style choices. The majority wouldn’t be in there in the first place (cost the NHS) if they were active!
I’m sitting here in Tenerife
I’m sitting here in Tenerife right now at a very English resort hotel and I would say that 95% of the English here are considerably overweight. I would wager that the majority of them over 45 are on a cornucopia of medications which cost the NHS a fortune to maintain and distribute. Unsurprisingly these people barely move and take the lift instead of a flight or two of stairs despite the lift being slow and tiny.
The NHS isn’t going to go under due to its budget being spent on active travel, its going to go under because the absolute jeb ends that complain about this sort of things are too fat and unhealthy to move more than 6 inches without getting out of breath. Because they have contributed fuck all in taxes throughout their lives compared to the vast sums they cost the NHS every year because they can’t put down the fork and move a little.
mctrials23 wrote:
Possibly – I’d suggest it’s just a victim of our overall success in keeping more people alive for longer – with costs particularly increasing from around 50.
https://www.icaew.com/insights/insights-specials/the-future-of-tax-and-public-spending/more-people-are-living-longer-how-much-will-it-cost
“a non-existent climate
“a non-existent climate crisis,” added Peter Gilbert.
told me all I needed to know.
Meanwhile, Gilbert – who says
Meanwhile, Gilbert – who says he enjoys walking and cycling
Don’t they always say that? Agreed – Gilbert and the other ‘cycle infrastructure is a waste of money, unlike new roads….etc’ are nutters and should be ignored
Gilbert wrote:
Yes a bit of novelty can be enjoyable.
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Does he realise that he is now not allowed to ever complain if he encounters a cyclist on that road?
Lee Waters is very good. The
Lee Waters is very good. The episode of Streets Ahead he features on is well worth a listen.
(I don’t need road.cc trying to wind me up by reporting idiotic comments from numbskulls).
These are the same turkeys
These are the same turkeys that voted for Christmas when they overwelmingly voted for Brexit despite generous EU handouts for infrastucture and regeneration. Of course they don’t want pedestrian or cyclist safety: it might save the life of someone they care about.
Residents brand walking and
Residents brand walking and cycling path extension an “unforgivable waste of money” – when “the NHS is in need and families are going hungry”
Wait until they hear about how much new roads cost, which also leads to more people needing the NHS. I wonder if the residents will find themselves able to forgive that.
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