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New Forest sportive organiser responds to threatened crackdown

National Park says local drivers are biggest hazard to animals

Hampshire County Council is threatening to regulate cycling events in the New Forest if organisers do not agree to a code of conduct to reduce the claimed impact of  rides and sportives in the area.

County council chairman Ken Thornber said: “Competitive cycling is changing the character of the Forest for the worse. If the organisers don’t agree to enforce a code of conduct it falls to us – the local highway authority – to take action to regulate these events.

“We cannot allow masses of cyclists to sweep down our lanes two or three abreast at high speed, disregarding horse riders and endangering residents and animals.”

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According to Chris Yandell of the Southern Daily Echo, Mr Thornber said the New Forest was the jewel in Hampshire’s crown: “We will share it, but it must be on our terms.”

Speaking at the annual Beaulieu Estate dinner, Mr Thornber said that the council might apply for a bye-law giving it the power to license events.

“Every event would have to be licensed, which would enable us to insist that there’s a limit on the number of cyclists taking part, plus more stewards and a greater number of police to police it,” he said.

“The organisers would also have to clear up after the event. If not there would be a charge.”

UK Cycling Events said it has taken on board the complaints of New Forest locals.

“There has never been a horse or livestock animal killed by a cycling event” in the New Forest, said Martin Barden of UK Cycling Events, organiser of the Wiggle Sportive that has been a focus for complaints by New Forest locals.

In an email to road.cc, Mr Barden criticised Ken Thornber’s comments and claims about cycling events in the forest.

He said: “Cllr Thornber has not done his research as our events are non-competitive sportives, not races. In addition he states, ‘We will share it, but it must be on our terms.’ Once again, he seems to be mistaken. The New Forest is a National Park set up for everyone to enjoy. It is not an extension of Cllr Thornber’s back garden.”

The event will continue in the New Forest, Mr Barden said, not least because of the enthusiasm of local businesses and accommodation providers.

“The last event alone provided a financial benefit of £325,000  to the local economy,” he said. “We also wish to continue promoting cycling in the National Park which is in line with its aims of providing enjoyment for all.”

Nevertheless, Mr Barden said that UK Cycling Events had been working hard to listen to the local community and would be making a number iof changes to the way its events ran to help improve the harmonious relationship with New Forest residents.

Those changes include:

  • Moving the event HQ from New Park Showground to outside of the National Park. This will reduce the need to have a temporary speed limit restriction between Lyndhurst and Brockenhurst.
  • Removing some ‘hot spots’ for local tension from the route, for example Blissford Hill.
  • Replacing some narrow lanes with double width alternatives.
  • Reducing rider numbers by 20%.
  • Providing additional port-a-loos at rest stops.
  • Supporting a local charity in addition to our national charity partner.
  • Providing additional motorbike marshals to patrol the course ensuring all riders are cycling within the highway code.

Local drivers biggest animal hazard

Some of the loudest complaints about cycling events in the New Forest have come from local horse-riding groups, but the National Park authority says the biggest danger to forest animals comes from local drivers.

Tony Hockley, chairman of New Forest Equestrian Association, said: “We’ve seen more than 5,000 cyclists on a weekend and they don’t want to slow down for other users, which is what makes it dangerous for horse riders.

The New Forest National Park authority says: “The evidence shows that most animal accidents are caused by local drivers who drive along the same roads regularly – often several times a week.”

According to the National Park, animal deaths and injuries in the New Forest have been falling for the last several decades. The number of animals killed and injured in 2012, 82, was the lowest since records began in 1956.

The authority cites the 40mph speed limit across the Open Forest as the most significant measure to have improved the animal death toll. All the materials and measures intended to reduce the animal death toll are aimed at drivers and include pinch points in villages and on the open road, and education campaigns asking locals to drive carefully.

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ridemybike | 10 years ago
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County council chairman Ken Thornber said: “Competitive cycling is changing the character of the Forest for the worse. "

It may be timed events, but it isn't a race - sportives are not "Competitive Cycling"

The NF events I've done already have a code of conduct - including don't break the law and ride within the highway code.
There are cyclists that ignore the instructions from organisers, but then there are drivers who ignore the highway code and riders that deliberately try and make life difficult for everyone else. These are the people spoiling it for the majority - cyclists, visitors and residents alike.

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Leodis | 10 years ago
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Another case of NIMBY's worried about house prices.

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Simmo72 | 10 years ago
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Each year I have to 'put up' with 2 running events and 1 triathalon, For the running events the roads are fully closed but I don't hold any resentment, and the triathlon athletes are considerate.

We also have to tolerate a couple of local drag hunts. These are the ones that annoy me.
They park their 4x4's all over the place, blocking footpaths, the horses take up all the road with no regard for other users
They dump their littler out of their cars
The area is covered in a mass of horse sh*t
I had a big run in with them when they took up both sides of the road when i was on a bike and made no effort to slow down and control their dumb prey animals.

Not to mention at one point I had 2 of the stuck up morons on my front lawn until i muttered the immortal lines 'get off my land', with the satisfaction that a petrified fox caught up in the pompous sport was hiding in my shed.

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BBB | 10 years ago
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Will there be any crakdown on motorised traffic, too?

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stuie78 | 10 years ago
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I wonder if this regulation, if it happens, will extend to tourists who are not locals, contribute to traffic on the roads and contribute to the number of people waiting to cross the road (either by being a person crossing the road or being in a car not giving way to a pedestrian). I do think there is a point to be made about the sheer number of cyclists who do these things at once, and the numbers should probably be reduced, but if cycling gets regulated (or is it just the organised events? Not sure on this one!) then it feels a little unfair that cyclists are targeted. I think the event organisers can nip this one in the bud, or at least show willingness by limiting the numbers at any one event.

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Ellis Pro Cycling replied to stuie78 | 10 years ago
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stuie78 wrote:

I wonder if this regulation, if it happens, will extend to tourists who are not locals, contribute to traffic on the roads and contribute to the number of people waiting to cross the road (either by being a person crossing the road or being in a car not giving way to a pedestrian). I do think there is a point to be made about the sheer number of cyclists who do these things at once, and the numbers should probably be reduced, but if cycling gets regulated (or is it just the organised events? Not sure on this one!) then it feels a little unfair that cyclists are targeted. I think the event organisers can nip this one in the bud, or at least show willingness by limiting the numbers at any one event.

As both a cyclist and resident of the New Forest I find it astounding that the attitudes of both local residents and tourists towards cyclists are being upheld. Not a week goes by when I don't find myself shouted at, heckled, sworn at or cut up by motorists who fail to afford cyclists any sort of respect.

Personally I have always found horse riders to be very polite and accommodating of cyclist providing we slow down for them as we pass, this seems only fair.

I very much agree with stuie78 - cyclists are taken as the scapegoat for issues which are not caused solely by them.

The whole point of the National Park is to provide access to all, but this has to be teamed with a modicum of respect and courtesy towards others in order for it to work. Driver education is needed around cycling and equestrian safety.

Cyclists need to be viewed as equals on the road, not just an irritating necessity. We are entitled to space on the roads as well. We also pay our taxes and most of us also drive, meaning that we pay road tax and are therefore entitled to space on the roads.

Whilst there can be issues with cyclists littering at sportives, this behavior is by no means limited to cyclists but also shown by tourists and others who do not live in the Forest and therefore have no vested interest in preserving it. This raises a more general need for education of visitors to the area.

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eurotrash replied to Ellis Pro Cycling | 10 years ago
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Ellis Pro Cycling wrote:

We also pay our taxes and most of us also drive, meaning that we pay road tax and are therefore entitled to space on the roads.

Entitlement to space on the roads is not a consequence of paying "road tax". Perhaps that's not what you meant.

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William Black replied to eurotrash | 10 years ago
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eurotrash wrote:
Ellis Pro Cycling wrote:

We also pay our taxes and most of us also drive, meaning that we pay road tax and are therefore entitled to space on the roads.

Entitlement to space on the roads is not a consequence of paying "road tax". Perhaps that's not what you meant.

I think he was saying we pay our taxes (eg Council Tax, Income Tax) which pays for the up keep of the roads.

That's how I read it.

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noizebox | 10 years ago
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“Just crossing the road is extremely difficult if the cyclists won’t give way, which most of them don’t.”

Who has right of way in this situation?

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Colin Peyresourde replied to noizebox | 10 years ago
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noizebox wrote:

“Just crossing the road is extremely difficult if the cyclists won’t give way, which most of them don’t.”

Who has right of way in this situation?

I know. The debate is pretty nonsensical from start to finish. The problem is the language of it all, in that I believe these events are a pest to the locals, but they can't really explain why without making serious allegations which are largely spurious.

However, if they feel these events are 'regulated' then it at least gives them respite, rather than wondering if the place will be turned over to one or more hoards of cyclists each weekend.

There are two real problems, and 1) is the numbers all setting off on the same route over a period of time - I don't think any of us could not be affected by an extra 3,000 cyclists or so on our local roads 2) the need for the individuals to complete a fixed length route. If I know that I am tired or have a problem out on a ride I can pretty much find a direct route home or use public transport. But out on these things that is a bit trickier - so cyclists are a little less forgiving to allow people to cross the roads - it is a race without being a race. All this affects the locals and how they can use the roads.

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step-hent | 10 years ago
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I do find it ridiculous that the local council seems to think they own the national park ('we will share it, but on our terms') - it isnt theirs to decide whether to share or not!

That said, I have no problem with events being regulated, provided it is done sensibly. Is there any chance of that, I wonder?

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JeevesBath | 10 years ago
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I don't partake in many oganised events, so there's no impact on me, but because of the general attitude displayed by Surrey and Hampshire towards cyclists I will do my best to avoid spending my hard-earned in these counties in future. I may even break my own rule and go to McDonalds if in these places, just to ensure that as little of my money goes to the locals as possible.

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