Autumn is show time for the bike world, we’ve already had Eurobike, and this week it’s Interbike in the States. Next month though is the one we’ve been waiting for, Cycle 2008 at London’s Earls Court (10-12 Oct) – our chance to see next year’s spangly new bikes and kit on home turf. Among the road highlights at this year’s show will be Carlos Sastre’s Tour de France winning bike on the Sigma stand plus David Millar’s Felt on the, er, Felt stand. There’s also the chance to see (and try) new Dura Ace Di2 Electric as demo’d here on the Shimano stand, and to ogle, poke, prod, and generally admire Campag’s 11-speed Super Record gruppo on the Campag stand. Mavic will be there too showing off their latest wheels. The show isn’t just about new bikes though, Nicole Cooke will be there on the Sunday launching her new book on getting in to cycling, and there will be a whole host of other cycling stars on hand throughout the rest of the show. You can even do some riding at this year’s show, the commuter test track makes a welcome return this year and you’ll be able to try out bikes as diverse as the Pashley Roaster and various electric bikes. Oh, and we’ll be there – so pop along to the road.cc stand and say hello. Even better, if you book in advance* at www.cycleshow.co.uk/STM (entering the code “STM” , so they know we sent you) you’ll get a fiver of the ticket price giving you extra cash to spend in the retail zone – possibly on a road.cc top, plaid is going to be so hot this year. *To book by phone call 0844 848 0122
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UK Murdoch/Harmsworth anti-cyclist psychosis continues with the worst politicians money can buy.
@Gd29 You accept going too fast is an issue but don't accept that reducing speed and falling accident/injury rates are related by anything other than correlation? In which case, how do you begin at your own starting point? Either speed is an issue or it isn't. And if drivers won't drive to the conditions, and we all agree speed is an issue, then forcing them to drive at lower speed is a perfectly reasonable solution. There is no harm in also educating drivers in better habits, but that is a much more difficult and timely process. So how many deaths and serious injuries are acceptable in a world where we keep 30mph as the standard limit on relevant roads whilst we wait for drivers to catch up in a utopian world. I do not disagree about most of the other solutions you put forward. Some of them, however, are even less likely to occur within the next generation or two than materially improved driving behaviours.
@Rendel Harris Yep, I’m pretty confident the sale was them wanting an ‘easy’ way of improving Zwift without having to do all the leg work.
Independent variable = speed limit Dependent variable = casualties Control variable = roads where no change made The figures prove that when we change the independent variable by lowering the speed limit then the dependent variable, casualties, falls in comparison to the control variable of roads where no change to the speed limit has been made. That is evidence.
The anticyclist exaggerates the disadvantages of cycle lanes beyond belief; it's like they imagine the worst-case scenario and then make it even worse. The Netherlands and Belgium have no problem with cycle paths.
@DrG82 just wait 'till you hear about the "blanket" 30mph limits it was replacing, or those "NSL" signs that just got stuck up everywhere else by default...
@Clem Fandango from that last observation I conclude that the only way to protect drivers from delays by being forced to stop and argue the toss with cyclists, or even being falsely accused by cyclists of various driving offenses is: - traffic lights at regular intervals along all roads, which should turn red whenever a cyclist approaches, alerting drivers there is a (RLJ) cyclist in front. - lights at every junction which default to all-ways red, unless they are briefly reset to green by a cyclist passing (and obviously riding through on red).
Um, yes, that's how evidence works. Perhaps you meant they're not *proof*, which would be true. But they are the best evidence we have.
These stats aren't evidence, they show correlation. Without isolating the variables they don't actually say that much about the impact of the change. Speed limits are an ineffective tool when the problem is drivers not driving in an appropriate manner for the conditions and environment. Those drivers weren't following the speed limit and/or paying sufficient attention anyway! If that is the problem and you don't deal with it, but you want to keep reducing injuries/fatalities, you have to keep dropping speed limits until you prohibit road use entirely. The solution is driving standards improvement (education) and enforcement. In wider terms but more importantly it's better city and road design, and reducing commuting distances by reforming the housing market (to an easily exchanged basic human need - shelter, not primarily an asset with massive financial inertia to change) But that's expensive, in £, time, administration, politics.