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Live blog: Team Sunweb channel Mission Impossible, swerving cyclist intentionally blocking car infuriates social media (but is all as it seems?),+ more
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Mon, Oct 01, 2018 14:22
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Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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Rome73 2 minutes ago
I know many a mechanic who feels fear every time one of her branded cycles is presented for a service. They are astoundingly bad quality; cheap components, shoddily put together, difficult to adjust and usually not worth it. The Pendleton e-bikes are exceptionally cr@p. Why do people put their names to such rubbish?
tomlew 1 hour ago
@Rendel Harris Market forces, probably. But I'm no expert. I realize some of us here love cycling, but what would make forfeiting extra income excusable? And even if the tickets were cheaper, how would you prevent extra demand so that people prevented from participating would not complain about being treated unfairly? Why don't we simply acknowledge TdF is not a public good, it is just another commercial event. With a bit of luck you can probably survive without it.
ChrisA 9 hours ago
@slownomad From the DVSA/DoT Guidance Notes that your link refers to: "To be classified as an EAPC under the EAPC regulations[footnote 1], the cycle must:" etc. . It then goes on to say: "If an EAPC does not comply with the regulations, it is treated as a motor vehicle under the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 and the Road Traffic Act 1988" So no, it does not say that the only EAPC is a legal EAPC. As you say bike may refer to pedal cycles or motorbikes. E-bike logically follows the same usage and includes EAPCs. "Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycle" is a technical description. The EAPC Regulations 1983 allow for some EAPCs to be treated in law as pedal cycles. The Guidance Notes finish with a disclaimer: "This guidance is a summary of DfT’s understanding of what the law requires." etc.. & finishes with "You are therefore advised to consult the relevant legislation and, if necessary, seek independent advice." So even the DVSA & DoT don't actually know what it all means.
Gravel1-2 9 hours ago
Not noted in the review but the old Crux was a CX - gravel racer whereas this new one seems to be pure gravel, taking inspiration from road race bikes more than anything. What’s happening with specialized and CX? Is it just being left behind or is this the bike still for CX?
Rendel Harris 11 hours ago
@RayG In my experience many of the people who attend overpriced events like these aren't genuine fans but people with high disposable incomes who like to go "for the experience" and to say that they were there. In any case, even if every ticket was sold to a dyed-in-the-wool cycling fan who was prepared to pay silly money because it's a once-in-a-lifetime chance to see the Depart in their home town/country, why would that make charging exploitative prices excusable?
tomlew 12 hours ago
The title of the review sounds almost as if it was the "tier number" you pay for, not the actual performance. I thought bikes were about riding, not bragging about them? If the bike is so great, what is the problem really?
RayG 13 hours ago
@Rendel Harris I see the average cycling fan protested by snapping up the available tickets immediately.
Rendel Harris 15 hours ago
@RayG Even if the ticket revenues for this event were all going straight into rider safety, which I'll wager they're not, there would still be perfectly relevant questions to be asked as to why the ordinary cycling fan was being stung for the cost rather than it coming out of ASO's €30M profit from the Tour alone and the €130M it makes annually from its race portfolio.
Cayo 16 hours ago
@Daclu Trelub I'm also wondering if they're putting matting down over the setts leading up to the esplanade - imagine the number of potential pre-race retirements if they try to ride slowly over them uphill if it's bucketing down that night! 🫣
Cayo 16 hours ago
@HoarseMann I considered that probability - Just expecting the prime 'mid-priced' seats to have already gone. Not to mention there'll likely be an even bigger strain on the terrible ticketing platform...
12 thoughts on “Live blog: Team Sunweb channel Mission Impossible, swerving cyclist intentionally blocking car infuriates social media (but is all as it seems?),+ more”
Hmmmm….the swerving cyclist
Hmmmm….the swerving cyclist?
Any video we post to a police authority as evidence of dodgy driving needs to contain at least 5mins of video prior to the alledged incident? Unless the OP has this additional content that shows them driving along minding his own business and being viciously swerved infront of by this cyclist then I’d be healthily sceptical of the nature of this clip.
Riders rarely (I won’t say never!) go off on one at a vehicle putting themselves in very significant danger without due cause?
No sound on the video so can
No sound on the video so can’t tell if the car is beeping or not.
…additionally it’s no
…additionally it’s no longer accessible on Faceache #justsaying
boardmad wrote:
It’s still on FB, just went for a look.
The other day, I was watching The Purge TV series, and was discussing with the better half, as to whether we thought that if murder was legal for one night of the year, would we or anyone we know actually go out and kill. Given the comments on the FB post, I would suggest not riding on Purge night.
I’ve seen it so many times on forums, but it still worries me how many people think that its OK to suggest murdering someone, because they ride a bike.
My bad…I don’t use the
My bad…I don’t use the facebook so am probably doing it wrong.
I’ve given up being disappointed with heinous driving behaviours…I got yelled at, then swerved and brake-tested coming into town last week just because I filtered infront of stationary traffic at a light then had the temerity to be infront of a van who objected on principle to my existence.
If I’d got that wrong and come off infront of traffic behind me, that van driver would have killed someone…plain and simple.
Swerving cyclist – I’d says
Swerving cyclist – I’d says he’s being a bit of a dick.
I’d find it hard to defend
I’d find it hard to defend the cyclist – if the driver behind is being a dick then it is usually better to let them get ahead and away from you as soon as possible. Nothing good can come from swerving like that in front of a driver.
But there must have been a trigger to the behaviour – interesting that there is no sound and no earlier footage. It looks like the video was taken on a phone rather than a dashcam, so why was the passenger (I’m assuming) filming at that point unless there had been an earlier incident between the cyclist and the driver?
Any other comments on the internet about this? The facebook post only seems to have about 5 replies, which isn’t what I was expecting from the title which suggested social media was erupting over this.
There’s reference to an
There’s reference to an original video which shows more of the story, plus a comment about the driver *thinking* he had given them enough room. Has anyone seen it? The hate and the violence on that FB thread is too depressing to trawl through to see if anyone linked it.
The guy is a major cock, if
The guy is a major cock, if just for playing with his own life. I’m assuming he also wouldn’t have done that if 2, 16 stone rugby players were in the car.
If he’d ended up under the wheels I doubt the police would have prosecuted the driver based on that evidence.
The reason I can think of for doing it is it’s actually Mark Cavendish practicing his sprint finishes.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
I think he must be a relatively new cyclist too. He’s clearly not done that much before as it wouldn’t take long before he meets a motorist who is as much of a nob as he is. And crunch.
Let the nobby driver go – at least they’re ahead of you and not about to mow you down.
fenix wrote:
Ditto the above.
Whatever the driver was doing, riding like this is nothing but stupid.
If someone is driving like an idiot, then it’s so much easier (and not to mention safer) to let them get by.
Someone cycling like that shouldn’t be on the road.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Not sure about that. I’m confident drivers aren’t allowed to run over cyclists for riding like dicks.
Surely, in the same way the safest thing for the cyclist is to let the mental driver to get past, isn’t the safest thing for the driver to let the mental cyclist get out of the way rather than continuing to try and force past in that situation?