
Live blog: TFL failed to make checks on Quietway routes, says Active Travel Now Campaign, seriously muddy bike testing, new summer kit launches and much more

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@chrisonabike exactly, words are cheap. They can safely bang the drum knowing that little will or can be done. OK, some things could be done, but the chance of nobody cocking something up . . ? Realist or pessimist, take your pick; but still optimistic enough to hope that things will work out :-)
@ChrisA isn't this story more along the lines of "tobacco company is demanding government crackdown on nasty rolling papers and dangerous pipes?" Silly of me! How could there be any conflict between and "improving things for their ... definitely not employees ... and the public at large" and these companies' entire business model...?
"Deliveroo has announced a crackdown on modified and ‘dangerous’ e-bikes . . . . . company is calling on the Government to prohibit the sale of unsafe e-bike conversion kits." Really? Do they not know how difficult it is to legislate for such things, the politicians inability to understand details, the competence of the DoJ in drafting such legislation and what seems to be a widespread disregard of those rules; not to mention the total lack of enforcement. Just saying.
@Nigel Garage The Mercedes driver drove through the light three seconds after it turned amber. Official government text: "AMBER means STOP. You may go on only if the amber appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident." Three seconds is more than enough time to stop safely at the speed the Mercedes was going so the driver was breaking the law and therefore committing a prosecutable offence. Deliberately putting others at risk and breaking the law is not "acceptable" and if you saw a cyclist running a red in those circumstances you would rightly condemn it. Is there anything you can't be completely wrong about?
I see quite a few MAAP items out in the Surrey Hills. The new shop has a cafe and they're from Melbourne so the coffee should be good: I'm looking forward to visiting.
@chrisonabike Mercedes was acceptable, but the second one (old Toyota people carrier/ex-taxi) was a prosecutable offence.
I wasn't saying that nor talking about people who say that. I said it was silly to claim that wearing a helmet indicates acceptance of dangerous driving and poor infrastructure. I choose to wear a helmet; I also regularly report dangerous driving to the police and correspond with councils and road authorities about ways infrastructure could be improved for cyclists. I rather doubt I'm the only helmet wearer who does so.
@JamieT (a pedant writes) she's a London Assembly member, not an MP.
10 thoughts on “Live blog: TFL failed to make checks on Quietway routes, says Active Travel Now Campaign, seriously muddy bike testing, new summer kit launches and much more”
I’m feeling Dave and that mud
I’m feeling Dave and that mud.. Saturday was my trial by mudbath, which went a bit like this…. slide, cor this is tough, slide, slide, brambles, rocks, slide, off, over the handlebars, slide, walk, lost, off, slide.. the relif I felt when nearing the coffee shop was epic.. jeeze can’t think I’ve done a harder sixteeen miles.
Need a bit more info on the
Need a bit more info on the traffic order. Where exactly is this?
Do they mean here ? https://goo.gl/maps/MDM2UThATgP2
hirsute wrote:
It’s absurd if that’s what TfL really is going to do. Why build a cycle lane if you can’t get into one end of it?
OldRidgeback wrote:
google maps research shows the cyle lane on the river side of the road on embankment, so from the north you have eastbound road, westbound road, eastbound cycleway, westbound cycleway.
on bridge street you have (starting on the east side) southbound road, northbound road, southbound cycleway, northbound cycleway. Both north and south cycleways show turns heading for the embankment.
It is not clear, are they banning cyclist in the cycle lanes from turning left (crossing both directions of traffic going on and off the bridge) or are they banning cyclists from starting on the road (southbound bridge street) then moving onto the cycleway just before going onto the bridge. I can’t see any reason for doing this unless it relates to phasing of pedestrian lights crossing cycle superhighway.
more detail definately required.
hirsute wrote:
Just a tiny bit further on from that, into the cycle path which runs parallel just to the south of the road.
https://goo.gl/maps/RcZPmxcsf5w
I assume they are stopping left turns from the road into the cycle path, but allowing them from cycle path to cycle path, so anyone who wants to use the Embankment cycle path also has to use the one in front of parliament.
I haven’t cycled in the area myself, but I assume that currently many people choose not to use the cycle path in front of parliament – from the quoted tweet I guess that people do so because of some issues around Parliament square, though I’m not sure what those are.
The problem with the Victoria
The problem with the Victoria Embankment junction is that it’s so much quicker to cycle on the road approaching from Parliament Square than it is to follow the cycle lanes. If you’re coming from the west up Great George Street, you’ll have three sets of cycle lane lights to wait for before you’ll get to the Victoria Embankment cycle super highway rather than the two on the road which also have a much longer sequence. However, when making that left turn on to Victoria Embankment, the pedestratian crossing is green for pedestratians. I haven’t seen any collisions myself, but I have seen near misses.
Source: I commute to work via this route.
The cycle lanes around Parliament Square suffer from short light sequences and lengthy queues during rush hour. You also have traffic from Westminster Bridge that can block the ability to cross, and it’s often a tourist free-for-all, especially during the summer. The road up to Westminster Bridge is two lanes, but in the morning, the leftmost lane is often blocked by deliver vehicles (especially Tesco vehicles) which leads to horrible convergence if you are trying to go fromt he road to cycle super highway. It’s deffinitely better than not having the infrastructure, but it’s not without its problems.
Luke Z wrote:
As any true petrolhead would say.
I’ve just started commuting
I’ve just started commuting via the parliment square route, and after two days of using the cycle lane, I gave up and tried the road. This morning, the road route took seconds, previous to that, it seemed to take 10 minutes to cross the square using the cycle route. The lights clearly favour the road traffic. I’m a confident enough cyclist that I feel comfortable doing this. As long as you look for pedestrians when you turn onto embankment, it’s fine.
The problem is, the road-route gets a green light at the same time as the pedestrians, which is why they are talking about a ban. Salt common sense doesn’t seem to come into it.
Shane Perkins staying classy,
Shane Perkins staying classy, sold your soul out yah grub!
Mesh, Endura? Didn’t work out
Mesh, Endura? Didn’t work out for Froome.
Australian muppet sells out to Putin. Becomes nonentity.