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Live blog: TFL failed to make checks on Quietway routes, says Active Travel Now Campaign, seriously muddy bike testing, new summer kit launches and much more

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10 thoughts on “Live blog: TFL failed to make checks on Quietway routes, says Active Travel Now Campaign, seriously muddy bike testing, new summer kit launches and much more”

  1. peted76
    March 28, 2018 at 8:56 am
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    I’m feeling Dave and that mud

    I’m feeling Dave and that mud.. Saturday was my trial by mudbath, which went a bit like this…. slide, cor this is tough, slide, slide, brambles, rocks, slide, off, over the handlebars, slide, walk, lost, off, slide.. the relif I felt when nearing the coffee shop was epic.. jeeze can’t think I’ve done a harder sixteeen miles.

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  2. Hirsute
    March 28, 2018 at 9:21 am
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    Need a bit more info on the

    Need a bit more info on the traffic order. Where exactly is this?

    Do they mean here ? https://goo.gl/maps/MDM2UThATgP2

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    • OldRidgeback
      March 28, 2018 at 9:59 am
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      hirsute wrote:

      Need a bit more info on the traffic order. Where exactly is this?

      Do they mean here ? https://goo.gl/maps/MDM2UThATgP2

      — hirsute

       

      It’s absurd if that’s what TfL really is going to do. Why build a cycle lane if you can’t get into one end of it?

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      • wycombewheeler
        March 28, 2018 at 10:04 am
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        OldRidgeback wrote:

        Need a bit more info on the traffic order. Where exactly is this?

        Do they mean here ? https://goo.gl/maps/MDM2UThATgP2

        — OldRidgeback

         

        It’s absurd if that’s what TfL really is going to do. Why build a cycle lane if you can’t get into one end of it?

        — hirsute

         

        google maps research shows the cyle lane on the river side of the road on embankment, so from the north you have eastbound road, westbound road, eastbound cycleway, westbound cycleway.

        on bridge street you have  (starting on the east side)  southbound road, northbound road, southbound cycleway, northbound cycleway.  Both north and south cycleways show turns heading for the embankment.

        It is not clear, are they banning cyclist in the cycle lanes from turning left (crossing both directions of traffic going on and off the bridge) or are they banning cyclists from starting on the road (southbound bridge street) then moving onto the cycleway just before going onto the bridge. I can’t see any reason for doing this unless it relates to phasing of pedestrian lights crossing cycle superhighway.

         

        more detail definately required.

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    • Mark B
      March 28, 2018 at 10:44 am
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      hirsute wrote:

      Need a bit more info on the traffic order. Where exactly is this?

      Do they mean here ? https://goo.gl/maps/MDM2UThATgP2

      — hirsute

      Just a tiny bit further on from that, into the cycle path which runs parallel just to the south of the road.

      https://goo.gl/maps/RcZPmxcsf5w

      I assume they are stopping left turns from the road into the cycle path, but allowing them from cycle path to cycle path, so anyone who wants to use the Embankment cycle path also has to use the one in front of parliament.

      I haven’t cycled in the area myself, but I assume that currently many people choose not to use the cycle path in front of parliament – from the quoted tweet I guess that people do so because of some issues around Parliament square, though I’m not sure what those are.

       

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  3. Luke Z
    March 28, 2018 at 4:27 pm
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    The problem with the Victoria

    The problem with the Victoria Embankment junction is that it’s so much quicker to cycle on the road approaching from Parliament Square than it is to follow the cycle lanes. If you’re coming from the west up Great George Street, you’ll have three sets of cycle lane lights to wait for before you’ll get to the Victoria Embankment cycle super highway rather than the two on the road which also have a much longer sequence. However, when making that left turn on to Victoria Embankment, the pedestratian crossing is green for pedestratians. I haven’t seen any collisions myself, but I have seen near misses.

    Source: I commute to work via this route.

    The cycle lanes around Parliament Square suffer from short light sequences and lengthy queues during rush hour. You also have traffic from Westminster Bridge that can block the ability to cross, and it’s often a tourist free-for-all, especially during the summer. The road up to Westminster Bridge is two lanes, but in the morning, the leftmost lane is often blocked by deliver vehicles (especially Tesco vehicles) which leads to horrible convergence if you are trying to go fromt he road to cycle super highway. It’s deffinitely better than not having the infrastructure, but it’s not without its problems.

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    • don simon fbpe
      March 28, 2018 at 4:41 pm
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      Luke Z wrote:

      The problem with the Victoria Embankment junction is that it’s so much quicker to cycle on the road approaching from Parliament Square than it is to follow the cycle lanes. If you’re coming from the west up Great George Street, you’ll have three sets of cycle lane lights to wait for before you’ll get to the Victoria Embankment cycle super highway rather than the two on the road which also have a much longer sequence. However, when making that left turn on to Victoria Embankment, the pedestratian crossing is green for pedestratians. I haven’t seen any collisions myself, but I have seen near misses.

      Source: I commute to work via this route.

      The cycle lanes around Parliament Square suffer from short light sequences and lengthy queues during rush hour. You also have traffic from Westminster Bridge that can block the ability to cross, and it’s often a tourist free-for-all, especially during the summer. The road up to Westminster Bridge is two lanes, but in the morning, the leftmost lane is often blocked by deliver vehicles (especially Tesco vehicles) which leads to horrible convergence if you are trying to go fromt he road to cycle super highway. It’s deffinitely better than not having the infrastructure, but it’s not without its problems.

      — Luke Z

      As any true petrolhead would say.

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  4. MrGear
    March 28, 2018 at 8:00 pm
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    I’ve just started commuting
    I’ve just started commuting via the parliment square route, and after two days of using the cycle lane, I gave up and tried the road. This morning, the road route took seconds, previous to that, it seemed to take 10 minutes to cross the square using the cycle route. The lights clearly favour the road traffic. I’m a confident enough cyclist that I feel comfortable doing this. As long as you look for pedestrians when you turn onto embankment, it’s fine.

    The problem is, the road-route gets a green light at the same time as the pedestrians, which is why they are talking about a ban. Salt common sense doesn’t seem to come into it.

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  5. BehindTheBikesheds
    March 29, 2018 at 3:30 am
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    Shane Perkins staying classy,

    Shane Perkins staying classy, sold your soul out yah grub!

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  6. Leviathan
    March 29, 2018 at 2:02 pm
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    Mesh, Endura? Didn’t work out

    Mesh, Endura? Didn’t work out for Froome.

    Australian muppet sells out to Putin. Becomes nonentity.

     

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This week we're looking at three intriguing new e-bikes, poring over Halfords' healthy profit margins, and heading stateside for some disappointing yet typical bike licensing news (will they ever learn?)
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Avinox’s MG Concept brings CVT-style gears to an e-MTB motor
Avinox’s MG Concept brings CVT-style gears to an e-MTB motor
Avinox is at it again, but its concept motor looks like quite the leap compared to current models
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Megamo’s RYAL e-MTB is set to bring Avinox motors to a friendlier price point with models starting at £3,999
Megamo’s RYAL e-MTB is set to bring Avinox motors to a friendlier price point with models starting at £3,999
It's not just an accessible price as Megamo aims to bring a more accessible geometry and sizing to its Avinox-powered e-MTB range
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The “world’s first AI solar e-bike” is coming to Kickstarter, with double-disc wheels featuring integrated solar panels for extra range
The “world’s first AI solar e-bike” is coming to Kickstarter, with double-disc wheels featuring integrated solar panels for extra range
17 miles of extra range that is, with a claimed range of up to 120 miles a day utilising the Samsung battery cells and solar power - reservations for the Phosgo City or Hybrid will start from $1,499 on Kickstarter in late July
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Bosch unveils its first hub motor, semi-pro wins Voi Bike Challenge at Nocturne crit race, Florida sets close pass law + more
Bosch unveils its first hub motor, semi-pro wins Voi Bike Challenge at Nocturne crit race, Florida sets close pass law + more
Bosch's first-ever hub-based motor, Voi crit, and e-bike-related updates from Oxfordshire and Florida feature in this week's round-up
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Latest Comments

Smartstu 8 minutes ago

That Dogma colour scheme...Don't hate it - but reminds my of the Orange Clorkwork I had in '95!

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tubasti 36 minutes ago

My last collision with a car happened like that too, except we were pulling from a red light and she didn't signal til I was next to her. But I wasn't hurt, damage to my bike and clothing was minimal, and she stopped and apologized profusely, explaining she had a brain fart and simply forgot I was there. Fair enough. I already knew her insurance adjuster, and we had a good laugh.

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mitsky 59 minutes ago

@wtjs I got an NIP ref and subsequent update saying "The case has been transferred for court proceedings." but nothing after that (request to attend as witness or result). I've chased the police for an update but I won't be surprised if I get no response.

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Echo 1 hour ago

Is this a 'filler' article to get content out? Opinions are like nostrils we've all got them but out of the bikes in this opinion piece, laying down power on real roads and not being beaten up I would rate the Bianchi and the Lapierre.

in: 2026 team bikes ranked: From the ‘cheapest’ to Pogacar’s £15k superbike, we attempt to rate every bike in the Tour de France
MaxiMinimalist 1 hour ago

Why would one expect a nearly 27-yo professional with millions at the bank, who rides a bicycle for a living and wins cycling races, to cycle to the start of TdF?

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wtjs 1 hour ago

@mitsky But the left hook definitely was actioned With what action?

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wtjs 1 hour ago

@chrisonabike I’m sure wtjs will be along with proof that even victims can’t report crimes in Lancs if it’s a road offence I don't need to, you CAN report them, but they're all ignored- anyway, it's already been done with my videos of the recent spate of Stagecoach bus attacks, with no response from the police, and you've all seen the dire RLJs, unbroken white line offences, mobile phone use etc. where the reports are all immediately binned by the out-of-control, hopelessly inept, idle and bent Lancashire police. However, for variety this is yet another of what Lancashire police refuse to admit are offences. This is B16 NEA, belonging to Neil Armstrong of Plumbwise (some sort of franchising operation), Garstang, which can be found by searching plumbwise.net Garstang. You can see that he has 'misrepresented' the '6' as a 'G' by the deliberate use of a white cap on the plate fixing screw. This is supposed to be a serious criminal offence, but it's condoned in Lancashire and I saw it again yesterday- first seen a couple of years ago. The address is about half a mile from Garstang Police Station. It's either too much effort for them, or they've come to a private arrangement with the offender.

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kinderje 2 hours ago

@Daddy Feebs yep! a bit slow on my part, thanks

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MaxiMinimalist 2 hours ago

Crazy riders are those who believe that outdoor cycling is 100% safe with no risk at all. Crazy riders are those who want to wear Ninja-like warrior outfit to feel unbreakable. Decathlon is pushing a new gimmick product and campaigning for new regulations. Which in turn become sales revenue and profit margins. Good on them! Who at Decathlon Van Rysel has the balls to go and ask the Badger what he thinks of their new gadget?

in: “In cycling, the unacceptable is accepted”: Van Rysel aiming to bring airbag skinsuit to WorldTour in 2027 – but tech firm behind innovation admits “some crazy riders” won’t use it
Daddy Feebs 2 hours ago

@kinderje

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