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Hit-and-run driver who killed motorcyclist jailed for 24 years
https://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/21869394.disqualified-driver-kill...
Most of us lament the lenient sentences handed out to killer drivers so I thought this might show justice can be served sometimes.
It seems the long sentece was because he was convicted of multiple other offences but at least the grieving family and friends don't have to see the killer merely slapped on the wrist and sent off to continue with their life consequence free.
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Aah, the Brexit "implementation" problem. A bit like sewage on the beach - for a clean beach, you need less sewage or best of all no sewage. There is no "good" sewage that can replace the bad.
With that said, and while we wait for the OP to explain where things should have gotten to by now if Brexit had but been done properly, let me fill the void for a bit.
The Brexiter "implementation" argument usually runs - a bit like you get from drivers when things have gone wrong - that Brexit is fine, it's everyone else - eg remainers with their 48% of the (oh so democratic) vote, the EU, the Blob, etc.
Translated into driver speak - the road was slippery, the cyclist was in the middle of the road, they had dementia or other strangely unforeseen medical episode, it was dark/light/ road was bendy, etc - it's never them being a rubbish driver.
Before taking satisfaction at the law suddenly taking this seriously: but that's a huge sentence. Almost double the theoretical, never-obtained 14 years (for running over the Royal family while taking selfies and bragging about it online, not guilty plea). (Has the trailed "life sentence" come in yet?) I didn't see info in the story as to how the charges stacked up. There was mention of driving into the police... Makes me wonder how much - if any - was accounted to the original hit and run.
Not to be cynical but others have received but a twelfth of this sentence (can't recall any scot free that came to court but likely some don't).
...and he'd stolen the car from a showroom. Interestingly, driving it on false plates. You'd think there was a close correlation between false, missing or illegible plates and other badness, and yet despite it being possibly the easiest thing to detect and apprehend, police couldn't be less interested. Too bad this one was never stopped for the false plates in the days before.
Paging wtjs and London posters...
Too bad this one was never stopped for the false plates in the days before
Is this some traffic-law enforcement Shangri-La we're talking about? You're never going to be stopped in Lancashire for false plates, or for years of no VED, insurance or MOT. Look at NJ12 LJN on the A6 for instance
Or BX14 VFM, observed regularly since June. 32 months without VED- traffic legislation enforcement has been abandoned in Lancashire at least- ANPR cameras switched off and binning of offence reports by the police. Consequently, a lot more offending
However, they do appear to be about to drive through a green light.
Another faked wtjs photo...
However, they do appear to be about to drive through a green light
True, but there's no colour prejudice at Lancashire Constabulary and you will be treated to exactly the same even-handed complete lack of interest and determined total inactivity when you go through a red light, just like MW15 WFF
I suspect the fact that he'd conned an old woman and was a generally nasty piece of work was a contributing factor in the sentencing. Clearly not the sort of person any of us would want to be out and about. Had it just been a hit and run though... (which BTW I think is also exactly the sort of person who needs to be locked away).
Yes to the EU. Let's get back in to the customs union and single market.
Another referendum!
Mind you, I wouldn't want to just give up the Brexit benefits I've been enjoying
Quite happy with my pink unicorn (national emblem of Scotland and all) thank you. Although I'm having difficulty seeing it. Must be here though.
To give the leave argument the benefit of the doubt we probably have to wait at least a generation to assess this. At which point we may struggle to unpick the effects from "other stuff that happened" of course.
Yawn, get over it
Nope. If he wants to come on this forum with a stupid and provocative handle, I will go on challenging him.
Are you one "them", perchance?
Have you seen anyone harassing those with pro EU usernames?
Are there any?
Not that I support the harassing of the OP who makes contributions on cycling matters far more than politics.
There are a few EU flags as profile pics and at least one FBPE.
Neither get harassed and rightly so.
Something David9694 and HarrogateSpa should reflect on.
Yes, I am aware of pics. You mentioned pro EU usernames and I can't remember seeing one of those.
From this thread it would appear that our Trump, Johnson and Brexit loving PBU has disappeared again for thinly veiled racist comments
There is at least one with FBPE as part of their username.
Never seen any harassment of them based on that.
Enjoy the ride ?
Seems all posts have been removed too.
Why would they be? false equivalence much?
A pro EU user username/picture is not, in any way, equivalent to an anti EU username?
I would probably give them a 'like', so long as it wasn't about disc brakes on road bikes.
They do seem to have an actual appreciation for riding their bicycle unlike the provocateurs.
Deliberately contentious username mind...
They said it was the same username as on another forum and used for some years.
They write a lot about cycling so I don't really care about the username.
Sounds like an opening to put all sorts of horrible hateful stuff in a user name - would you draw a line anywhere at all?
I can't see how putting a political stance in a username (or by including a soviet style hat in your avatar) is at all a problem as long as it's not generally offensive (e.g. Nazis).
I do recall someone once made a fake alias of BehindTheBikeSheds (an infamous poster here that veered between being very angry and very insightful) in order to ridicule them by having posts that looked to be from them. I'd consider that abusive behaviour.
Wait, what? I thought that was a red acorn?!
Is this clearer?
Previous pic here:
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