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Planning some long days in the saddle? With improved comfort and steady handling, the latest sportive bikes are just the job
  • These bikes are tailored for mass-start, non-competitive events: sportives, gran fondos and Audax rides. They’re great for general road riding like club runs and longer commutes too.

  • Sportive bikes are designed to be more comfortable for long rides by cyclists who don’t have pro-level flexibility and team masseurs.

  • A wider and lower gear range than you’ll find on a race bike is almost universal, with compact chainsets standard.

  • There’s room for at least 25mm tyres to improve shock absorption and grip, and many recent sportive bikes will take 28mm tyres.

  • Disc brakes are becoming increasingly common because they offer improved stopping power, and are less affected by rain and wheel misalignment.

Sportive bikes — also known as endurance bikes — are 'softer', more comfortable versions of race-orientated road bikes. They have slightly more relaxed handling, frames tuned to smooth the ride and capacity for wider tyres along with a less stretched-out riding position. They’re ideal for events and long distance rides where the extra comfort is a valuable benefit.

That makes them ideal for British riding conditions. Extra comfort from the frame and larger volume tyres (25mm and up) smooth out rough roads, the longer wheelbase makes them more stable, and the higher handlebar position reduces the strain on your back and neck. Some bikes also have shorter top tubes to bring the handlebars closer to the saddle.

Bianchi Infinito CV Disc - front disc

One of the big changes occurring on bikes in this category is the rapid adoption of disc brakes. Discs offer increased stopping power, better all-weather performance and lower maintenance. Disc brakes really suit endurance and sportive bikes as these are the sort of bikes likely to encounter a myriad of weather and road conditions, whether in a sportive or if you simply ride year-round. And as these bikes are unlikely to be used in a road race, they don't have to conform to the rules that currently forbid disc brakes on race bikes.

An endurance bike to suit all budgets

As the list below shows, many manufacturers now offer an endurance road bike and many more are adding models to their ranges all the time. Some of the big bike manufacturers have a wide range of endurance machines with the lowest priced here starting from £500 and rising to over £8,000, so there is a bike for everyone.

Giant Defy Advanced SL - head tube

At the more affordable end you can expect alloy frames and Shimano Sora giving way to Shimano 105 groupsets and carbon fibre and ever lighter compoents and wheels as you work your way up through the price ranges.

Many frames share key features across price points though so often you’re getting the same comfort enhancing benefits and a degree of upgrade potential too.

What makes an endurance road bike?

In essence, an endurance road bike is very similar to a road race bike, but with geometry, specification and frame materials tuned to make them more comfortable over longer rides and rough roads.

A longer wheelbase is common, both to create space for the wider tyres and also to produce a more stable ride, especially useful over choppy surfaces. Many endurance road bikes also have a taller head tube and shorter top tube to create a more comfortable fit over longer distances. There is no fixed formula though, and details differ between manufacturers. Some offer much taller and short frames while offers opt for longer top tubes with marginally taller head tubes, so you've a wide range of choices.

Rose Xeon Team GF - seat tube

Many offer frames designed to provide a smooth ride, through the carbon fibre layup, tube shaping or both. Taking things a step further Specialized and Lapierre incorporate elastomers in their endurance bike frames to help smooth the ride. Trek have taken things further still with the Domane's IsoSpeed decoupler, which makes the back end of the bike 'active' over rough terrain.

All these bikes have space for wider tyres. Most are sold with 25mm tyres as standard, but many will take a 28mm tyre which offers far more cushioning than a 23mm tyre. You can run them at lower pressures and benefit from a smoother ride without sacrificing speed.

Whether you’re planning a daily commute, a sportive or charity event, or just long Sunday rides, an endurance road bike is probably ideal for you. Unless you’re racing, there’s little compromise in choosing an endurance road bike and taking all the benefits they offer.

Because this category is so competitive, there are literally dozens of very good bikes to choose from. The following list includes many bikes we've tested and liked, starting with some recent additions. You can't go wrong with any of them.

Triban RC 520 Disc — £729

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Ever since John took the B'Twin Triban 520 Disc road bike for a first ride in London in early October, we've been keen to see if it could stand up to his first impressions, as well as the great value legacy of previous Triban road bikes we've tested. It really does, although riders used to or wanting a racier geometry should look elsewhere.

The geometry thing is a really important point here. With the Triban 520, it's all about a functional position aimed right at tourers and regular commuters at one end of the spectrum, and endurance roadies at the other.

With a super-tall head tube and compact top tube, the bike sits you upright relative to your general entry-level race bike, or even a fair chunk of the endurance-specific market too. It fully justifies its do-it-all tag for everyone except budding racers.

What surprises most about the Triban 520 is just how accessible the ride is; how easy it is to pedal the bike at moderate speeds and feel like you're just cruising along. Cornering in any situation is confidence-inspiring, and it rolls incredibly smoothly too. It takes poor road surfaces in its stride, with a good amount of all-round compliance keeping things comfortable, and as long as you stay in the saddle it climbs moderately well too.

Read our review of the Triban RC 520 Disc

Orro Terra C 105 Hydro 2019 — £1,889.99

2019 Orro Terra C 105

The Orro Terra C 105 Hydro is a stable carbon bike that's quick on the road, with the strength and confident handling required for heading on to gravel and other hard-packed trails with the appropriate tyres. Mudguard and rack mounts make this a versatile option that can cope with everything from commuting to adventure biking.

It's slightly toward the endurance road end of the spectrum between road and gravel/endurance bikes, as the frame doesn't have room for fat 650B tyres, and off the peg it's equipped with road-going Grand Sport Race 32mm tyres. What we have here then is a bike with plenty of road-friendly features while still being capable of tackling bridleways, tracks and trails. Think of it as Endurance Plus.

Read our review of the Orro Terra C 105 Hydro
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Boardman SLR 8.6 — £550

2018 Boardman SLR 8.6

Boardman has recently introduced a new range, updating its wildly popular Performance range with new frames, components and design tweaks, and renaming them . The cheapest of the new models, the SLR 8.6 boasts a 7005 aluminium alloy frame, full carbon fork (an unusually good spec at this price), and 16-speed Shimano Claris components.

Read more: 9 stars of Boardman’s 2018 bike range

Boardman SLR 8.9a — £1,000

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Boardman offers two versions of the SLR 8.9, this aluminium-framed bike with Shimano 105 components and the SLR 8.9c with a carbon fibre frame and Shimano Tiagra groupset. Which to go for? The SLR 8.9a arguably offers a more balanced spec out of the box, while you could say that the SLR 8.9c has upgrade potential — it wouldn't be silly to swap out the components for 105 or even Ultegra as the parts wear out. Given Boardman's track record with bikes at this price, we don't think you'll go far wrong with either.

Mason Definition2 Ultegra Hydro — £3,000

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The Mason Definition2 is simply a superb machine, crafted with attention-to-detail to give a ride sensation that almost defies logic. It's lively yet relaxed, delicate yet you'd take it anywhere, and is just really fun to ride. We can't imagine getting bored of it, and it puts any other alloy bike we've ridden firmly in the shade.

Read our review of the Mason Definition2 Ultegra Hydro

Giant Contend SL 1 2019 — £999

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The Giant Contend SL 1 is an absolutely spot-on all-day ride. It's a comfortable and versatile sportive/endurance bike with a dependable feel that encourages you to keep going and just do those extra few miles.

It takes whatever it encounters in its stride with an unflappable assurance that's just what you want in a bike for long rides, handling everything from twisty descents on smooth surfaces to tatty dirt roads, Belgian cobbles and even singletrack trails with equal aplomb.

For 2019, the Contend SL 1 gets the new Shimano 105 R7000 groupset with an 11-34 cassette for the steepest hills, Giant's tubeless-ready PR-2 wheels and a change to 28mm tyres instead of the previous 25mm; all very welcome improvements.

Read our review of the 2017 Giant Contend SL 1
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Genesis Datum 10 2018 — £1,999.99

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The Genesis Datum 10 will take pretty much whatever you can throw at it, on or off-road. The spec represents excellent value and the ability to jump between town and country use positions it as a sound contender for an 'only bike' that you won't be sheepish about getting muddy on, while being worthy of a shine-up for the Sunday morning group ride.

At launch two years ago, Dave rated the Di2 11-speed Datum 30 at 4.5/5, finding it a 'hugely capable bike that is loads of fun over all sorts of terrain'. Later that year it won our Sportive Bike of The Year Award, with only the Shimano Di2-influenced price holding it back from taking overall honours. At £3,200 in 2015 money, the Di2 version was a hefty price to pay, but the base model £1,999 10-speed Tiagra bike is a bit less painful on the bank balance. For this spec it's not a class-leadingly cheap bike, but the overall package is worthy of inclusion on anyone's to-be-considered list.

Read our review of the Genesis Datum 10
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Simplon Pavo Granfondo Disc — £4,699

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If big miles are your thing then Simplon's Pavo Granfondo Disc is a machine you want to take a good long look at, especially if you want to cover those miles at near race pace. The Simplon devours climbs, descents and those long tedious straights with what feels like the minimum of effort from the rider.

The Pavo Granfondo, as you can probably guess by its name, is a bike designed for those epic rides in the mountains or day-long blasts across a region or a county or two. Granfondo loosely translates from Italian as 'big ride', and this is exactly where the Pavo excels.

Read our review of the Simplon Pavo Granfondo Disc
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Ribble R872 Disc — from £1,099

2019 Ribble R872

This is the disc brake-equipped version of Ribble's R872, the endurance bike that's been part of the range in rim-braked guise for a fair few years, and it's a fast, comfortable and affordable option for tapping out the miles.

Most of us aren't racers, we just want to cover good distances in relative comfort at a decent pace, something the R872 allows you to do thanks to a frame that is a solid all-rounder with excellent manners.

Giant Defy — £1,499-£4,499 & Giant Contend — £579-£1,249

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In 2017, Giant split the previous best-selling Defy line in two, and that continues for 2018. The Defy group comprises three sub-families of carbon fibre-framed bikes, Defy Advanced, Defy Advanced Pro and Defy Advanced SL, all with disc brakes and starting with the Defy Advanced 3 at £1,499. The aluminium-framed Contend range is a six-bike line-up from the £575 Contend 2 to the Contend SL 1 Disc at £1,199.

Giant offers a large choice for women, in the Avail range, with alloy, composite and carbon versions.

The Defy has lay-up and tube profiles that make it a comfortable and involving bike to ride. Critically, Giant has retained the exact same geometry as the previous Defy, so if you're upgrading from an old Defy to a new model, you'll find the fit and position the same.

All the Defy models share similar frame features, with the D-Fuse seat post (and integrated seat mast on the top models), new top tube and seatstays, all contributing to a smoother ride when the road surface gets rough and bumpy. The frame also features a hugely oversized head tube and bottom bracket to ensure it provides good stiffness for responsive handling.

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Of the Contend models we've ridden and liked the rim-braked Contend SL1, and the £999 Contend SL 2 Disc stands out as bike with hydraulic disc brakes for a price under the common Cycle To Work Scheme threshold.

Read our review of the 2016 Giant Defy Advanced SL 0
Read our review of the 2017 Giant Contend SL 1
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Cube Agree — £2,099-£2,999

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In 2016 Cube gave its popular carbon-framed Agree sportive bike range an aero makeover, with some models getting disc brakes too. Disc brake skeptics will be along in a moment to point out that puts you back to square one in aero terms, but at least you'll be able to stop in the square if it's wet. The 2018 range carries on in the same vein, with two disc-braked models and two with rim brakes, and there are some excellent deals around on 2017 models.

Read our review of the Cube Agree C:62 Pro

Read more: Cube adds new Agree C:62 SL aero road bike to 2016 range, with a disc brake option

Rose Gran Fondo/Pro SL range — £861.28-£5,847.77

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German direct-to-consumer brand Rose launched the Xeon Team GF as a brand new bike in 2014, combining a choice of aluminium or carbon fibre frames with 'marathon' geometry, which includes a taller head tube, shorter top tube and longer wheelbase.

Rose's marathon range now comprises 20 models in aluminium and carbon fiber, with lots of disc-braked options and some of the most keenly-priced bikes with electronic shifting. The Team GF4 with SRAM's Force AXS wireless electronic shifting is just £2,721.80, for example.

On the rim-braked bikes, Rose have put the rear brake on the chainstays. That allows the seatstays to be exceptionally skinny to provide some vertical deflection. A neat touch is the easy adjustment of the head tube height, as instead of regular spacers, spacers screw directly into the head tube below the upper bearing.

Read our review of the £1733.64 Xeon Team GF-3100

Cannondale Synapse — £680-£7,800

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The Synapse is Cannondale's distance and sportive offering, and it had a major update just a couple of years ago. To provide the necessary smoothness customers demand from such bikes, Cannondale has used a combination of design features — a skinny 25.4mm seatpost, sculpted stays and shock-damping carbon layup — that together produce a buttery smooth ride.

As well as that super skinny seatpost, Cannondale has integrated the seat clamp into the top tube so there is more exposed seat tube to flex. The head tube is 2.5cm taller than the racier SuperSix Evo and the wheelbase is longer, while the reach is about the same as the Evo.

Despite the Synapse's popularity, Cannondale hasn't been twiddling its corporate thumbs. For 2018 there's an all-new Synapse targetted at providing better ride comfort with more speed and performance. While it retains a similar aesthetic to the previous model, the new Synapse is built entirely around disc brakes, is lighter with a frame weighing a claimed 950g for a size 56cm, accommodates 32mm (measured) tyres, has mudguard eyelets and a new integrated handlebar that boosts front end comfort.

The Synapse range comprises four aluminium-framed bikes and 11 with carbon frames, from £850 to £7,800. All but two — the Synapse Carbon 105 and Synapse Carbon Tiagra — have disc brakes. The £2,499 Synapse Ultegra Disc won the road.cc Bike of the Year 2014/15 Awards.

Read our review of the Cannondale Synapse Ultegra Disc
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Look 765 — from ~£2,000

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The latest incarnation of Look's 765 endurance bikes includes flax fibres in the layup of the frameset.

“A layer of linen fibre has been positioned between the carbon thicknesses on the fork and chainstays to encourage the dissipation of vibrations,” says Look.

It's available with disc or rim brakes in a variety of specs with groupsets from Shimano 105 to Ultegra Di2.

Read our review of the Look 765

B'Twin Triban 540 — £679

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Decathlon’s B’Twin Triban bikes have more relaxed geometry than other models higher up the B'Twin range, placing the bars higher so the should be ideal for racking up the big miles. The 540's frame is made from 6061 aluminium and built with a largely Shimano 105 spec which for the asking price is very good value for money.

Read our review of the B'Twin Triban 520
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Trek Domane — £595-£9,300

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The bike that Fabian Cancellara rode to success in the last couple of years of his career really needs little introduction. The really clever aspect of the Domane’s approach to smoothing the ride is the IsoSpeed Decoupler, which separates the seat tube from the top tube so it’s free to move back and forth. Trek says this means the Domane has 35mm flex at the back end.

Geometry for the Domane features a shorter top tube than you get on Trek’s standard road bikes and the head tube is taller, and of course there is a longer wheelbase.

Since its launch Trek has added bump-damping Front IsoSpeed and expanded the Domane range to include less expensive models with aluminium frames starting with the Domane AL 2 at £595, but you don't get full IsoSpeed on any of the aluminium bikes, just a carbon fibre fork designated IsoSpeed but that doesn't have the mechanical shock-absorption of the carbon bikes' IsoSpeed. Bikes with IsoSpeed front and rear start at £2,000 with the Domane SL5.

Read our Trek Domane SLR 6 review
Read our Trek Domane 2.3 review
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Canyon Endurace — £799-£5,899

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The range of German Internet specialist Canyon includes the Endurace bikes, which offer a more relaxed geometry than the Ultimate and Aeroad race bikes. However, where some sportive bikes have radically tall head tubes, the Canyon approach is more conservative. It's more relaxed compared than the race bikes, but is lower than something like the Specialized Roubaix below.

Offered in aluminium or carbon fibre, Canyon's Endurace VCLS (Vertical Comfort Lateral Stiffness) technology is baked into the fork and seatpost, and it's also used in the carbon frame. Canyon spec each bike with wheels featuring wider rims and tyres, so the 25mm tyres on the bike we tested recently actually measured 27mm across. That bigger volume contributes to the smoother ride.

Read our review of the Canyon Endurace CF 8.0

Specialized Roubaix — £2,100-£9,500

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Specialized’s Roubaix was one of the first widely-available endurance bikes. It's been through several iterations, and with the latest Specialized has added a front suspension unit with 20mm of travel to the steerer to directly absorb bumps. To look after your bum, there's the CG-R FACT carbon post from the Diverge adventure bike series.

Specialized doesn't offer a women's version of the Roubaix, but instead has the Ruby platform which shares many of the same features, including the front suspension, and each model is built with women-specific components.

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BMC roadmachine — £2,025-£9,000

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In 2017, BMC refocussed its roadmachine bikes on endurance riding, equipping them with disc brakes and a new frame that has space for up to 30mm tyres.

The roadmachine is available with frames made from one of two grades of carbon fibre, or aluminium. Maximum tyre width is 30mm on the carbon-framed bikes, and 32mm on the aluminium version; you'll have to go down 2mm if you're fitting mudguards. The mid-range carbon roadmachine 02 has hidden mounts for mudguards, while the aluminium roadmachine 03 takes mudguards and a rack.

All the roadmachines have 12mm through-axles front and rear and use the emerging standard 142mm rear spacing. There's a choice of Shimano spec from Tiagra all the way up to Dura-Ace.

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Scott Addict & Addict Disc — £1,169.10-£8,999

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In 2018 Scott replaced its Solace endurance platform with a branch of the lightweight Addict family revamped to take tyres up to 32mm for the disc-braked models and 28mm for rim-braked bikes. Head tubes have been lengthened compared to the racy Addicts (now dubbed Addict RC). Addicts are available in various configurations with rim or disc brakes, and there are women-specific Contessa models too.

If you want something even more suited to crummy roads and dirt tracks, take a look at the Addict Gravel bikes with 35mm tyres.

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Bianchi Infinito CV — £2,750-£7,800

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One of the most interesting endurance road bikes, because it’s packing some of the latest carbon fibre technology to tame vibrations caused by riding over rough surfaces, gravel or cobbles. At the heart of the Infinito CV is a viscoelastic material incorporated into the carbon fibre layup, which Bianchi call CounterVail Vibration Cancelling Composite Technology. Or CV for short. Bianchi reckon this helps the frame to reduce high-frequency vibrations compared to a regular carbon frame, by as much as 75%.

The geometry has also been adjusted with less of the aggressiveness and savagery of their Oltre XR2 race bike. That means a taller head tube, but it’s still shorter than many other bikes in this roundup, and a longer wheelbase of 100.2cm on the 55cm size. Last year Bianchi added the choice of disc brakes. While the frame looks mostly identical, it has gained 70g and the hoses are very neatly routed internally.

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Another model in the Bianchi range worth considering is the Intrepida. Crucially, it offers the same geometry as the Infinito, but a lower price point due to a vastly different carbon fibre frame, without the fancy CV technology.

Bianchi reveals new Intrepida endurance bike
Read our review of the Bianchi Infinito CV
Read our review of the Bianchi Infinito CV Disc
Read our review of the Bianchi Vertigo
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Lapierre Pulsium & Sensium — £1,299-£2,849

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Lapierre completely revamped the Pulsium for 2017 with a clean new carbon fibre frame. The French company says the gentle curves in the top tube and seatstays provide comfort, and has dropped last year's elastomer inserts.

Up front, the carbon layup of the fork is designed to increase the flex capability and the absorption of vibration. The geometry has a 15mm taller head tube than Lapierre's Xelius EFI race bike, 4mm longer chainstays and plenty of tyre clearance for fatter rubber than the stock 25mm.

Read our review of the Pulsium 700
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As well as the bikes here, you could also check out the road.cc Sportive Bike of the Year 2017-8 Award.

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Leviathan [3057 posts] 2 years ago
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Shhh, you aren't supposed to go fast on a Sportive because it 'isn't a race' they keep telling me.

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davel [2722 posts] 2 years ago
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Ah, I am one of 'they', and I'm not convinced you got the message properly, so allow me to bite: here 'they' go again...

Nobody said 'don't go fast'. What people object to is the bully-boy antics of berks who treat sportives as races (and probably don't actually 'race' in 'races'). I don't think any of these bikes are rated for number of gel wrappers they enable you to drop by mile 20, or their ability to misjudge a bend and cause a pile-up, or how well they can be used to barge past some sportive newbies.

Sportives are not races. That's the difficult bit that you need to try harder to get your aero-helmeted head around. If you want to race, enter a race. It's right there, in the name of the event.

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700c [1267 posts] 2 years ago
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I ve entered a few. I approach them more like a time trial. A personal challenge rather than a race. And then on the hard ones just attempt to finish! If you were racing you'd probably choose a different bike anyway.

I agree though there are some who take it too seriously. Last year I had a guy sit on my wheel for a few miles at the end, refuse to go in front then 'out sprint' me to the finish. Tw@t!

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bobbypuk [79 posts] 2 years ago
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700c wrote:

Last year I had a guy sit on my wheel for a few miles at the end, refuse to go in front then 'out sprint' me to the finish. Tw@t!

Nothing wrong with that. I had somebody do exactly the same to me a few weeks back. I was gutted but fair play. To be fair I did know him and the finish was in the Roubaix velodrome.

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CXR94Di2 [2660 posts] 2 years ago
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All the bikes were geared for flat sportives,  You dont need a 50t.  40-46T outer ring chainset will just do aswell married to a 28-32T granny inner ring.  Stick a 11-28 cassette or 11-32 and you will go up just about anything.  

Before anyone says the gearing isnt fast enough, I defy anyone to ride a 40-11 gearing on the flat at 25mph for long periods.  Virtually all of us arent pro level or even cat A

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Grahamd [1045 posts] 2 years ago
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CXR94Di2 wrote:

All the bikes were geared for flat sportives,  You dont need a 50t.  40-46T outer ring chainset will just do aswell married to a 28-32T granny inner ring.  Stick a 11-28 cassette or 11-32 and you will go up just about anything.  

Before anyone says the gearing isnt fast enough, I defy anyone to ride a 40-11 gearing on the flat at 25mph for long periods.  Virtually all of us arent pro level or even cat A

Maybe not, but spinning out on a quick descent on my 50 -11 is frustrating. Spinning out sooner would spoil descending even more. Perhaps I'm in the minority.

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robertoegg [117 posts] 2 years ago
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19? FFS - what's the matter with this bloody online world? Just make it 20....

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Leviathan [3057 posts] 2 years ago
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davel wrote:

...bully-boy antics...gel wrappers...misjudge a bend and cause a pile-up...barge past some sportive newbies....aero-helmeted head...

Projection much? You seem to describing amateur racers themselves whilst simultaniously looking down your nose. Go and watch another Red Hook crash on Youtube.

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davel [2722 posts] 2 years ago
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Bizarre response. I'm not: I'm describing some of the less sociable behaviour by people who think sportives are races, which is why I chose the words that I did, and why you chose to ignore them.

How would you know what happens in amateur racing? You think racing is strava and sportives.

Looking down my nose? You mean disapproving of inappropriate behaviour at a sportive? Why yes - colour me a snob then, I suppose. Do you approve of it?

And wtf do crashes at red hook have to do with anything? Go and watch footage of another Ride London crash, or something.

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beezus fufoon [972 posts] 2 years ago
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That makes them ideal for British riding conditions arses

FTFY

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Hypoxic [70 posts] 2 years ago
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All truths... Sportives aren't races. It's ok to want to go fast. Wheel sucking pseudo racers are wankers.

I don't get the point of your discussions? Next someone will remind us that the Earth is round, followed closely by someone else saying... "well, actually it's not exactly round... blah, blah, blah"

C'mon guys... it's not a pissing competition. Put them back in your trousers.

 

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zanf [1028 posts] 2 years ago
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robertoegg wrote:

19? FFS - what's the matter with this bloody online world? Just make it 20....

[clickbait] Some of the best sportives bikes of 2017. 19 will really get your goat! [/clickbait]

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Leviathan [3057 posts] 2 years ago
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davel wrote:

Bizarre response. I'm not: I'm describing some of the less sociable behaviour by people who think sportives are races, which is why I chose the words that I did, and why you chose to ignore them. How would you know what happens in amateur racing? You think racing is strava and sportives. Looking down my nose? You mean disapproving of inappropriate behaviour at a sportive? Why yes - colour me a snob then, I suppose. Do you approve of it? And wtf do crashes at red hook have to do with anything? Go and watch footage of another Ride London crash, or something.

Projection because you seem to be labouring under some notions that 1. I do these things, 2. I condone these things, 3. A lot of this is going on, 4. That of the few people who do engage in such activities there is no overlap between the two types of events. Maybe you haven't been keeping up with the latest pile-ups. Cat racing does not put you one some ecalator to professionalism or skill. 

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beezus fufoon [972 posts] 2 years ago
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Hypoxic wrote:

All truths... Sportives aren't races. It's ok to want to go fast. Wheel sucking pseudo racers are wankers.

I don't get the point of your discussions? Next someone will remind us that the Earth is round, followed closely by someone else saying... "well, actually it's not exactly round... blah, blah, blah"

C'mon guys... it's not a pissing competition. Put them back in your trousers.

 

oblate spheroid

also, my dad could have your dad in a fight

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kil0ran [1577 posts] 1 year ago
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I was impressed to see Michael Kwiatkoski turn up to one of the sportives I did in 2015. Dogma, Team Sky bibs, rainbow jersey. 

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fukawitribe [2837 posts] 1 year ago
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Grahamd wrote:
CXR94Di2 wrote:

All the bikes were geared for flat sportives,  You dont need a 50t.  40-46T outer ring chainset will just do aswell married to a 28-32T granny inner ring.  Stick a 11-28 cassette or 11-32 and you will go up just about anything.  

Before anyone says the gearing isnt fast enough, I defy anyone to ride a 40-11 gearing on the flat at 25mph for long periods.  Virtually all of us arent pro level or even cat A

Maybe not, but spinning out on a quick descent on my 50 -11 is frustrating. Spinning out sooner would spoil descending even more. Perhaps I'm in the minority.

Spinning out a 50x11 for me with my old, knackered legs is still around 75km/h, so i'm not gutted if I can't force the pace much higher using power rather than just tucking in and getting the rest of it for free. I'm also buggered if I can think of many places in the UK that I go that this is a problem. Perhaps i'm the one in the minority...

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peted76 [1502 posts] 1 year ago
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No giant defy, the most popular bike in the UK since Hovis sliced bread.. have they stopped making it?

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luiandlui [19 posts] 1 year ago
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peted76 wrote:

No giant defy, the most popular bike in the UK since Hovis sliced bread.. have they stopped making it?

 

Its in there, under Giant Defy & Contend.

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Cyclewalkbob [2 posts] 1 year ago
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Not one titanium bike here -why not?

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mtnbikerva1 [3 posts] 1 year ago
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For a do it all comfortable bike it is really tough to beat a Litespeed GRAVEL with what ever tires and wheels you want!

700x45 or 27.5x2.1 or 650

ride fast and or all day. On any surface.

Super durable no muss no fuss. If it falls over, you crash, the bike is strong as the first day you got it! NO SNAPPING IN TWO LIKE OTHERS.

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Cugel [77 posts] 8 months ago
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Despite the article rightly extolling the virtues of a more upright riding position, lower gears and larger tyres, virtually all the bikes shown look like road racing bikes. The tyres are (as the article notes) generally 25mm on the as-sold bikes. The top gears are far too high at 50X11 (50X13 is more than enough for all but Wiggo-folk). The geometry makes the saddle far higher than the bars...........

There are more and more  bikes being sold with an actually more upright position, tyres of at least 28mm (or up to 50mm on 650B) and even lower gears (the odd 46/30 chainset and 34 sprocket). These are now labelled "gravel bikes" but in reality they are a far better design for long distance "endurance" road riding too - more so than most shown in this article.

Cugel

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Boltsy [12 posts] 8 months ago
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No Fairlight Strael 2.0?

Reviewed on Road CC as a ‘great sportive or long distance machine’.

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CXR94Di2 [2660 posts] 6 months ago
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Grahamd wrote:
CXR94Di2 wrote:

All the bikes were geared for flat sportives,  You dont need a 50t.  40-46T outer ring chainset will just do aswell married to a 28-32T granny inner ring.  Stick a 11-28 cassette or 11-32 and you will go up just about anything.  

Before anyone says the gearing isnt fast enough, I defy anyone to ride a 40-11 gearing on the flat at 25mph for long periods.  Virtually all of us arent pro level or even cat A

Maybe not, but spinning out on a quick descent on my 50 -11 is frustrating. Spinning out sooner would spoil descending even more. Perhaps I'm in the minority.

You are!

There are very few(bloody rare) places in the UK, where it requires to spin up with a 50*11 to get maximum speed

50*11 @80rpm is 28mph

50*11 @ 130rpm is 46mph-that is high rpms

I know very few folk who have gone beyond 50mph by a significant margin for anything more than a few seconds

An example is I came down Mt Teide last year, gradients of -7,-8,-8.5% most of it I was freewheeling between 35-45mph. There is one section where the road straightens out for 700yards.  I overtook another rider, in doing so I spun up by legs(147rpm) with a 48*11 and hit 53mph for a brief few seconds, but either side of this exertion I was freewheeling at around 47mph.

Gravity is king and your ally for fast descending.

I say again, nobody needs to have 50*11 and needs to spin up, because it is so rare that you will get opportunity to use it.  Where as easy gearing will be utilised very often.

I attach a screen shot for you