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@qwerty360 "Oh; Huge reduction in all injuries;....." Which reminds me of the original Thompson, Rivara and Thompson study about cycle helmets, which found that helmets prevented 85% of deaths, but when peer reviewed, it was shown that helmets prevented injuries to all other parts of the body. That study was absolutely the most awful piece of original research about cycle helmets, completely invalid, but it's still the most quoted. You don't say where the figures you quote come from, but I'm sceptical of their validity.
@Nigel Garage Guess he's finding out that real life doesn't have an edit button, eh?
“The consultation showed a strong preference for Dryden Road to return to two-way traffic,........" But doesn't the council have policies which dictate that Active Travel routes should be adopted, preserved and promoted? From Devon CC's Roads and Traffic webpage: "Following a 2021 public consultation which showed almost 75% of respondents in favour of permanent changes to reduce traffic,........" So 75% of people are in favour of permanent changes to reduce traffic, but another consultation says take it out. Why aren't they going with the result of the 2021 consultation? "It followed concerns about the impact of displaced traffic on surrounding roads......" This is always exaggerated, and usually much smaller than the reduction in traffic on the blocked road, and of course, this is no exception: 'Devon County Council reported that closing Dryden Road to motor vehicles reduced traffic by 574 vehicles in the AM peak on Dryden Road itself, while increasing traffic on Bovemoors Lane by 180 vehicles in the AM peak. 'Impact on Surrounding Roads • Bovemoors Lane: Saw an increase of 180 vehicles during the morning peak hours following the modal filter/closure. (Devon CC) • Parallel Corridors (Heavitree Road and Topsham Road): Experienced no significant change in traffic volumes, with vehicle numbers remaining largely the same before and after the closure. (Devon CC) • Air Quality & Congestion: Critics and local campaign groups argued that the closure pushed congestion and fumes onto nearby residential streets, though official council data indicated minimal impact on major parallel routes.' (BBC) My guess is that some councillor has to drive an extra 500m because of the closure.
@Blackthorne83 Please can you let us know what was said, as you apparently know that it was just "exercising his speech" [sic] and didn't deserve any sanction?
@jackcycles your biggest obstacle is a narrow mind - also caused by poor maintenance. Just Google "Cycling KSIs netherlands vs uk" to see how wrong you are.(not that you're open to facts)
@mark1212123 pausing before posting on social media would help a lot of folk. (not you, though)
@chrisonabike only in the brains of the hard of thing
@jackcycles this whole thing is culturally deeply disheartening. Richardson was snitched on by a woke ‘whistleblower’ teammate for exercising his speech. Now British cycling is obligated to take performative measures to safeguard their image given their sins of the past. And a young rider sent to ‘re-education training’, reputation slandered without trial and career derailed. Everybody loses. Great job British cycling, propping up riders and then publicly throwing them under the bus.
@jackcycles Unfortunately now, people are guilty until proved innocent. Mud sticks. I am not saying he is guilty or innocent, but it is the way of the world now.
@chrisonabike "more rational, efficient and dependable" The cost will explode across taxpayers. The administration could've used HS2 money as a beginning step, but they chose not to. Windshield bias will still be whacking the cyclist in 100 years. I don't see many cyclists bothered by it. I see many possible cyclists put off cycling by it but we know this already.
20 thoughts on “Live blog: A good bike ride spoiled; Zwift art; a fifth of Aussie drivers admit experiencing cyclist road rage + more”
From the videos we see from
From the videos we see from Oz, this isn’t going to surprise anyone, but the Guardian article doesn’t mention what the authorities are doing to correct this overt bias by drivers and makes it pretty clear that they are doing the sum of the square of sfa.
This isn’t just a problem in Oz, and as is evidenced every day in newspaper and web comments, the utter ignorance of drivers about road law is astounding, and must lead to questions about whether our current system of licencing is appropriate. If so many drivers are unaware of the law and put vulnerable road users at risk, the system isn’t working. Do we need regular re-testing, especially focussing on behaviour towards vulnerable road users?
From the Guardian (my
From the Guardian (my emphasis):
brooksby wrote:
I’m trying not to mention helmets, but I’m weakening fast.
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I’m trying not to mention helmets, but I’m weakening fast.
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In the conext that helmets are not the issue here I hope.
Supersam wrote:
I think its just very worrying that Australia mandated helmets to increase cyclists’ safety, and yet numbers of cyclist deaths are still increasing so drastically. Its almost as if wearing a helmet doesn’t have a very great effect on KSI statistics…
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brooksby wrote:
Given the drops in cycling since the mid 80s and going further back to the early 50s when cycling was ridiculously safe in Australia http://www.cycle-helmets.com/cycling-1985-2011.html# they have fallen massively, and yet their government is even more ignorant of the issues than ours which is going some!
There are now calls for a 5 year test period for adults to cycle sans helmet but stupidly only off road, those 17 and under will still be forced to wear IF and that’s a big if the proposed changes get approval.
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
you do realise the issue is more complex than a did they or didnt they wear a helmet question???
nigerian prince wrote:
You do understand that we know that.
You do understand that saying “there might be other issues” doesn’t change the point that such a massive increase in cyclist deaths in a country which mandated cycle helmets ostensibly to improve cyclist safety is a bit concerning…
brooksby wrote:
It’s an anti-BTBS sockpuppet, created by someone who’s already anonymous on an Internet forum. And, despite their username, I haven’t seen any offers to inherit millions yet. Just rude.
davel wrote:
honestly I’ve had it with the vitriol on this site. It’s a sad place, for sad middle aged men shouting into the digital abyss. Fucking losers, the lot of you.
nigerian prince wrote:
You think this site is full of vitriol? Don’t ever venture to the comments section of the Mail Online then especially with that user name (then again it might blow their minds – on one hand Nigerian = non white immigrant, on the other Prince = Royalty)
nigerian prince wrote:
you do realise you’re now shouting into the digital abyss?
nigerian prince wrote:
I love a good flounce, but that was average.
nigerian prince wrote:
Goodbye and thank you for going.
burtthebike wrote:
Just think how much worse it would be if they hadn’t mandated helmets?
(Sorry, but not sorry)
burtthebike wrote:
I thought I’d leave that can of worms well alone…
brooksby wrote:
So one in four accidents led to a prosecution, or at least some sort of trial, of driving without due care and attention?
moved to Aus’ 5 years ago and
moved to Aus’ 5 years ago and my experience is some drivers really go out of their way to inform cyclists how much they hate them in a very threatening way – as well as attitude and distraction drugs and driving are a real problem and feature in many serious collisions – driving is an absolute right and driving at or a few km/hr above the speed limit is essential …if looking at urban cycling like to quote this study – experienced cycle commuters in Canberra review of video of daily commutes …from the summary:
“No collision events were recorded. A total of 91 potentially unsafe cyclist-interactions were identified. In the majority of events (93.4%), the behaviour of the driver led to the event. The most common event type was left turn (37.3%) which involved a driver turning left across the path of the cyclist, drivers turning across cyclists’ path from the adjacent direction (32.9%). Unexpectedly opened vehicle doors accounted for 17.6% of cyclist-driver interactions. In the majority of all events, a crash was avoided due to the evasive actions taken by cyclists.”
Bold added by me – original is large pdf here:
https://www.monash.edu/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/217306/muarc322.pdf
like to think that very very slowly police are realising Aus’ is way out of step but maybe I’m too hopeful
Chilled out pup!
Chilled out pup!
I was just about to send you
I was just about to send you my account number, Alanis…