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Live blog: Video – cat fires bow and arrow while cycling, London Assembly Member wants motorcyclists to be allowed on Cycle Superhighways + more

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The Stockton Hub which I used occasionally (I don't live in Stockton) was open only during standard office hours, Mondays to Fridays, rendering it useless for families and leisure cyclists. It's a standard problem for a lot of government-funded or charity-run public services which close when many people most need them, presumably because staffing costs would rise substantially. The article also mentions cycle hubs in Redcar and Darlington which, so far as I can tell, have never existed.
Ho ho ho! No, we need to stop these idiotic cyclists completely (or limit them to velodromes, parks and maybe "rail trails") - that way there won't be any cyclist road fatalities! Simples! Meanwhile in many parts ofEurope they're finding the benefits of making it such that lots of people don't use cars for every journey - by fixing it so it's convenient and increasingly safe - despite much larger numbers of people getting around outside of cars than in the UK...
The fatality rate in the UK has fallen five years in a row during a period, starting with the Covid years, in which building of "idiotic Dutch roundabouts and segregated cycling infrastructure" has massively increased, so in fact using your own benchmark the statistics clearly show the benefits of increased cycling infrastructure. Not quite the gotcha you seem to think when viewed through non-troll lenses, Nige. The stupidity of your "argument" is further clearly illustrated by the fact that the list-topping Norway, Sweden and Denmark all have massive segregated cycling networks. The Dutch model used to demonstrate clearly the safer nature of the Dutch system, e.g. in 2018 the Netherlands had 8 fatalities per billion kms ridden compared to 21 in the UK; the primary reason for the increased fatality rates in the Netherlands has been attributed by experts to the massive uptake in ebikes (47% of new bikes sold in NL are now ebikes compared to 10% in the UK), particularly amongst the older population, nothing to do with the infrastructure.
It used to be great price this, but they played the ace marketing card and got the popularity and now...
Many thanks for posting these statistics and showing the downward trend in fatalities. One thing that stood out for me when clicking through to the government statistics page is the UK's exemplary record on this Vs other European countries, especially the much-vaunted record of The Netherlands, which actually shows twice as many fatalities as the UK per million of the population. The question that arises is therefore: why are the greens and other left-wing parties so keen to adopt an inferior and more dangerous road system when ours is obviously working well? It smacks of a need to regulate people's lives and curtail freedom. We need to stop these idiotic Dutch roundabouts and segregated cycling infrastructure, and get people sharing the road in a fair and equal manner, when the statistics show it's safer to do so. (Chart shows road fatalities per million population)
That's where the convertible aspect comes in. I've got a gravel bike but the canal I sometimes commute on has roots under the tarmac and barriers. The mtb with 'drops' is more comfortable for this and fits through the barriers. If I want to do something more technical I can put the flat bars on.
@FionaJJ These officers deployed next-level stupidity, and it must be difficult for the police to find people this dim. It doesn't even need rolling-roads or whatever, just a reputable bike computer on a quickly changed mount for the difficult cases where a proper EAPC has been modded, although you would need to look hard in Lancashire to find a police officer who knows how to make a pedal cycle go. Most illegal electric motorbikes are immediately obvious, not least because the crim is wearing a face mask. I saw an obvious one tonight coming out of Garstang Sainsbury's, not pedalling but without a face mask because everybody knows that the police only come into the town to hide away in the police station 200 yards away.
Gustav Gullholm.. that's not a good look mate
@Chris RideFar I think what you meant to say was "REMOVE this and put it on PODCAST CC".
As Mary Whitehouse never said - one doesn't have to read the article if one doesn't want to read about an off-road bicycle.
7 thoughts on “Live blog: Video – cat fires bow and arrow while cycling, London Assembly Member wants motorcyclists to be allowed on Cycle Superhighways + more”
Box Hill one way?
Box Hill one way?
Downhill I hope! Who needs all that huffing and puffing and nasty uphill pedalling on a bank holiday!
pockstone wrote:
Nope. Uphill only according to CW:
For 2018, the road will be one-way – with no vehicles allowed to descend the Zig Zag towards Old London Road – from Friday March 30 until Monday April 2.
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/box-hill-goes-one-way-easter-last-years-trial-deemed-success-373853#shV2QuR8gkWVzrVT.99
As it happens, motorcyclists
As it happens, motorcyclists can already use much of the cycle superhighways in London due to their poor design.
Where it is just blue paint on the road, it has no legal standing, as described by the copper in the tragic case of Brian Dorling. He summarised that they were nothing more than a “blue strip of paint”: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/mother-watches-in-horror-as-cctv-of-her-daughters-boris-bike-death-is-played-to-court-8883576.html
Driving on the cycle superhighways only contrevenes road rules when there is an unbroken line dividing the road and the carriageway – where it forms a ‘compulsary’ cycle lane. It is also legal to drive on cycle lanes where your path is obstructed if they are made up of a broken line*.
But it’s not like Kurten to not know his stuff is it..?
*I’m sure someone with greater technical knowledge and a zeal for pedantry will pull me up on this, but I’ve described some of the essence of faults that the cycle lanes have.
As someone who rides bikes
As someone who rides bikes both motorised and not, that is a monumentaly stupid idea. How about opening all the bus lanes to motorbikes. That will help much more than having some prat on a 1200GS mixing with cyclists. Those lanes are designed for bicycles and as such would be totaly unsutable to motorbikes, as anyone who has been anywhere near a diliveroo rider will atest.
“improve safety for
“improve safety for motorcycles if they could use Cycle Superhighways at less busy times of the day outside rush hours, when there are hardly any bicycles on them, and they lie dormant and empty.”
Dormant and empty; just like his head. Who could have imagined a UKIPer being uninformed, ignorant and stupid?
So if he’s suggesting that
So if he’s suggesting that motorcyclists use the cycle lanes at less busy times of day, then surely the ‘normal’ lanes will also be less busy, so motorcyclists will be in less danger anyway.
Have I missed something here?
grumpyoldcyclist wrote:
Idiot says idiotic thing