road.cc live blog: Team Sky bike build, motorist documents crap cycling with dashcam + more
Cyclists seem to be the ones likely to come off worst
Fri, Jan 05, 2018 14:45
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chrisonabike 7 minutes ago
I think this is a positive story. They're not getting rid of public hire bikes - they're expanding their in-house one. They're merely kicking out cowboys who've shown they've a lack of interest in the game they claim to be playing. It seems logical that companies whose business model is to extract (venture capital) money by invading public space are even less likely to make the efforts to keep things in order than a local "in house" scheme. (After all the "bikes and riding" part of these schemes always *costs* money, they don't generate it.) So not surprising their experience shows those firms are not particularly motivated to follow the rules - especially when scrapping for "market share". It's nice the European Cyclists’ Federation is thinking about tourists also (i hesitate to say "follow the money...") - as they note, where it's safe to cycle locals will largely get their own bikes. Tourists aren't going to stop coming because lack of public bike share - I think this is mostly a "nice to have" ("hey - why don't we go on one of those bikes there? ").
chrisonabike 32 minutes ago
Harm minimization - at least they're not driving...
Gm_Crop 9 hours ago
I'll counter that by saying the Bryton 750se I have drives me nuts at times. Inconsistantly picks up on routes created on Komoot and the app re-syncs every few seconds when trying to set up the device and sends me back to the home screen. The most infuriating one is that I turned live track on. Once. It now won't turn off and repeatedly flags up the live track is starting, and then disconnecting every few seconds whilst riding. I haven't timed it but it wouldn't suprise me if 10-20% of the time the the screen is covered with an error message. That's been about 6 weeks now. Other than that it's great :/
IanGlasgow 9 hours ago
RE: Police launch road safety operation... by clamping down on cyclists using footbridge Meanwhile in Glasgow, Police Scotland are riding their motorbikes over the pedestrian and cyclists only bridge. https://x.com/FietserGlasgow/status/2065106152917012523?s=20
Rendel Harris 10 hours ago
@Paul J Van Schip certainly seems a bit of a dick, but he's a European and multiple World Champion on the track, pretty sure you don't get there without having some talent in your legs.
Bill H 10 hours ago
Poor Vincent cannot get over the simple fact that given the choice people prefer dedicated cycling spaces, rather than pretending to be cars like vehicular cyclists.
pbunyon 11 hours ago
What is the point of the fancy air sensor if it can't account for changing weather conditions?? If all you care about is a delayed approximation of aerodynamic watts in steady conditions, you don't need any special sensors for that. Just your speed on a decently flat course is enough to approximate rolling resistance and drivetrain losses. And the rest must be aero. If you assume a less aero body position at the same watts, your speed will drop while rolling resistance also drops, which means approximated aero watts goes up. And that's enough to demonstrate what you've shown in your testing protocol ("I sat upright and the number went up a little while later").
chrisonabike 11 hours ago
Your correction is accurate - it's almost always been "the (lack of) thought that (doesn't) count". "Massive" - less than a billion a year spent on active travel (trying to catch up / building a network across the entire country) Not massive - 6 billion every year (2026-2030) spent on road *maintenance* of existing "already built, goes everywhere, very convenient" road network for inactive travel Ultimately the reason "cycle infra" is *needed* is those unbelievably colossal amounts spent every year (and for more than a century now) on making mass motoring not just viable but apparently the "best choice" for most journeys. As the Dutch and others have shown, the majority of people *are* prepared to cycle and even mix with very light, slow local motor traffic *if* cycling is also made safe and convenient for the whole of their journey (including secure parking at both ends). (The history of the financial drivers of the current situation are a complex topic but note that while people complain about "crumbling roads" and underfunded motor infra - with some reason - by us continuing the fuel duty escalator freeze (for example) we're actually helping motorists pay *even less* for that activity / subsidising more of the cost of driving than ever.)
belugabob 11 hours ago
yes, but people will still object - which was my point.
Astralstroll 13 hours ago
So ' Priority of Road Users' and 1.5 metre clearance at 30mph has been been reduced to 'sharing'? NCN route 2 here in South Hams is an absolute scream with white vans, tractors and total idiots who refuse,or are totally incapable,to reverse on high Devon banked lanes ...means you have to get off and pedal back to a passing place....could be at that all day...so I don't bother...
14 thoughts on “road.cc live blog: Team Sky bike build, motorist documents crap cycling with dashcam + more”
What a massive compilation…
What a massive compilation…..a number of incidents that could be counted on one hand.
Clearly this person needs needs to type in UK dashcams into YouTube for some real stupidity.
It does surprise me the
It does surprise me the number of people who have crap / no lights.
The last clip was a ‘yoof’ in a hoody – a user of a bicycle rather than a cyclist. But we’re all tarred with one brush!
J886atv wrote:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cyclist
cyclist (or cycler) [sahy-klist]
noun 1. a person who rides or travels by bicycle, motorcycle, etc.
Origin of cyclist
First recorded in 1880-85; cycle + -ist
If there’s a more narrow definition, then please do expand on it – does it depend on particular clothing, or particular type of bicycle, or is it just on whether the person is doing something you approve of?
brooksby wrote:
Exactly, how many comments here on sh#t drivers & driving, when not all of them are terrible?
Many sporting cyclist also don’t like to stop for red traffic lights, & if they do, will stop past the cycle box etc. So maybe it’s just anybody slower than them at the time?
I love my bike wrote:
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The last clip was a ‘yoof’ in a hoody – a user of a bicycle rather than a cyclist. But we’re all tarred with one brush!
— I love my bike
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cyclist
cyclist (or cycler) [sahy-klist]
noun 1. a person who rides or travels by bicycle, motorcycle, etc.
……
If there’s a more narrow definition, then please do expand on it – does it depend on particular clothing, or particular type of bicycle, or is it just on whether the person is doing something you approve of?
— brooksby
Exactly, how many comments here on sh#t drivers & driving, when not all of them are terrible?
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— J886atv
What’s this? Fellows denying the fundamentalist Blighters’ right to stereotype others on the basis of one example of the lowest demeanour!!? One feels that such denialists of this Basic Freedom To Be An Intolerant And Unthinking British Pillock should be reported to The Daily Mail, so that the denialist too can be villified with a handy Mail Hate-Them label.
Everyone knows that all teenagers, cyclists, motorists and women are Very Bad Indeed, as my Great Uncle Barmpot pointed out years ago, just before he had his apoplexy. He had other lists of Vey Bad Types, which included Those Who Begin At Calais, People From Not-Here & Anyone Disagreeing With Me. Also Wives, Neighbours and even Cats & Dogs (and Horses).
If Uncle Barmpot was alive today, he would be pleased to see that his notion is gaining ascendency, perhaps stimulating him to poop his horn gleefully whilst running over a child, a cyclist and a horse all on the same day, as that would teach them.
Cugel, sterotypically compromised in several fashions.
Cugel wrote:
Are you sure he’s actually dead, he may just be hiding in a garden shed commenting on road cc under then name Valbrona…
brooksby wrote:
Yes, I guess by definition, an irresponsible twat on a bike is still a cyclist. Just as a drunk car thief, high on drugs, driving the wrong way on a one-way street is still a motorist.
I’m just hopeful that the above descriptions do not apply to the vast majority of RoadCC readers!
J886atv wrote:
I assume by your comment that in your oppinion a cyclist is only a cyclist when they wear racing type lycra? Why have you not pulled up the articles classification of the person capturing the video as a “motorist” as he is unlikely to be wearing motor racing type gear?
J886atv wrote:
When you ride with bicycle lights you are just making drivers complacent and it makes it less safe for everyone else.
For greater safety of the cycling population you should ride without lights, in dark clothing and preferably doing a wheelie for 50% of the journey (at least)
I make no apologies for the
I make no apologies for the cyclists without lights on….but the “Cycling” infrastructure in St Neots and the county of Cambridgeshire is ….well….. Crap… if you look at the shot of the St Neots Bridge…you’ll see the painted cycle symbol in th road…. great huh….
The driver also never slowed on the last clip where the Danger triangle with cycle in it was positioned well before the bend….. when the hooded chap on the bike “rode” out in front of him, the biker should also have looked in the drivers defence…
This cycling is normal for these parts as many don’t care because they can get away with it as the Police don’t give a sh*t …I don’t condone their behaivour…and I’d sell loads more lights if they took responsibility for themselves and other road users…… Clearly too….the driver is like most of them a “Guardian of the road”….
Its worth repeating that it
Its worth repeating that it is nothing like the amount of idiots you can watch on Youtube care of dashcams, in fact I subscribe to a few channels simply because they are so entertaining both for the car drivers and bicycle riders.
On the other hand – since Christmas and every evening that I have cycled home on my regular commute I have passed by what I can only assume is someone who recently got banned from driving and thinks he’s found the perfect way to get to work – wearing a black suit and black full length raincoat and black wooly hat with his briefcase strapped onto his black bike and with no lights and what I suspect is ye olde rod brakes and down twisting country lanes that have no lighting… I wonder what he plans to do when the M6 is closed down and car rivers use the same roads as a shortcut/ratrun doing 60 odd MPH, which they regularly do despite the fact there are dire warning signs about horses and livestock dotted all over the place that they completely ignore.
That last example, I have to
That last example, I have to say that I thought the driver was travelling at a speed excessive for the roads he was driving on. This was demonstrated when we narrowly avoided an accident with teh cyclist.
The cyclist was also conducting himself in a less than exemplary manner, but that last one was a solid 50/50 IMO.
As for red light jumping, I see it all the time… mainly by car drivers who seem to believe that if a light has only just turned red, it isn’t as red as a proper red. I genuinely see little red light jumping from cyclists and those that do, generally do it a lot more safely than the car drivers I see blindly accelerating through a red light.
I have to say though, i can see no reason why you wouldn’t have lights on your bike.
Err, where’s the video?
Err, where’s the video?
Bout half way down, unless
Bout half way down, unless you’ve got an ad blocker on, then it may not be there…