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February 21, 2012 at 8:11 am #15158
nickobec
Just trying to drum up support to convince Dave & co to get rid of the 4 star rider rule, happy to hear counter arguments.
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1 Does not make logical sense
2. Makes the game more complicated (keep it as simple as possible, 9 riders with a budget of 150 points, not 4 riders from this pile & 5 from this pile)
3 Disadvantages newer players, old hands understand the complexities and …. them. Newer players just scratch their heads or leave in frustration. Want to swap out Bradley Wiggins for Richie Porte, you can’t but you can swap a 4 point for Porte and long as you replace Wiggins with a 26 point star rider -
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How about jerseys? Like, say
How about jerseys? Like, say I score in the top ten or twenty on a sprint stage, ( :O ) give 10 points to the person who had the most points down to 1 for 10th. Same with mountains. Then, when you click on my team, you can see where you are in the standings and who leads them. Another crazy idea đŸ˜€Dylan Churchill
Just to say one thing i would
Just to say one thing i would like to see brought in to the game is more stage rankings eg in ones local area there is a position each stage rather than just overall in the year B-)orli
johnboymitchell wrote:I
johnboymitchell wrote:I propose a system like horse racing where peolpe who do well are penalised! What, no takers…..nickobec wrote:Happy to have handicapping system that is fair, because the top overall performers this year contain a lot of familiar names from last year…Yeah, I liked this idea:
lucas wrote:Could you.. tag on an free transfer to the team that lost the most positions in a day? đŸ™‚ And take away one from the current leader? đŸ‘¿ :DOr maybe give one extra transfer to the bottom 10% of the teams, as an incentive to stay and compete. I don’t know. It would work for me! đŸ™‚
the_mikey
It’s just a game, damnit!
It’s just a game, damnit! đŸ‘¿(please don’t kill me đŸ˜€ )
dave atkinson
Do keep suggesting stuff as
Do keep suggesting stuff as well. It’s not like i’m the all-seeing eye or anything. just trying to make a game that’s as good as possible.johnboymitchell wrote:I
johnboymitchell wrote:I propose a system like horse racing where peolpe who do well are penalised! What, no takers…..The reverse of last year, were good performers got bonuses as their riders value & team spend increased, by the end of the Giro I had close to 200pts to build my team instead of 175pt or so for most people.
For good reason it was removed for this season.
Happy to have handicapping system that is fair, because the top overall performers this year contain a lot of familiar names from last year. Losing a couple of points from the team budget for good performances in a race, should be enough.
drheaton wrote:
In all seriousness we’re not complaining about how the game works or the rules we’re just trying to make suggestions on how to improve it.Totally agree, I started the topic, because the 4 star rider rule made picking a team slightly more difficult for me. I wanted to see if other players thought the same and if enough players felt the same them hopefully Dave and the team behind the game would remove it some time in the future.
I was real happy to see the feedback from lots of players saying no, particularly from new players chrisdstripes & Dylan Churchill
The one issue that was raised here was the increase in number of star riders and that something needs to be done in the future.
We give feedback good & bad, because we enjoy playing the game and want to make it better. Sometimes our ideas are adopted, other times it is not.
johnboymitchell wrote:I
johnboymitchell wrote:I propose a system like horse racing where peolpe who do well are penalised! What, no takers…..The reverse of last year, were good performers got bonuses as their riders value & team spend increased, by the end of the Giro I had close to 200pts to build my team instead of 175pt or so for most people.
For good reason it was removed for this season.
Happy to have handicapping system that is fair, because the top overall performers this year contain a lot of familiar names from last year. Losing a couple of points from the team budget for good performances in a race, should be enough.
drheaton wrote:
In all seriousness we’re not complaining about how the game works or the rules we’re just trying to make suggestions on how to improve it.Totally agree, I started the topic, because the 4 star rider rule made picking a team slightly more difficult for me. I wanted to see if other players thought the same and if enough players felt the same them hopefully Dave and the team behind the game would remove it some time in the future.
I was real happy to see the feedback from lots of players saying no, particularly from new players chrisdstripes & Dylan Churchill
The one issue that was raised here was the increase in number of star riders and that something needs to be done in the future.
We give feedback good & bad, because we enjoy playing the game and want to make it better. Sometimes our ideas are adopted, other times it is not.
drheaton
johnboymitchell wrote:I
johnboymitchell wrote:I propose a system like horse racing where peolpe who do well are penalised! What, no takers…..I like it!
In all seriousness we’re not complaining about how the game works or the rules we’re just trying to make suggestions on how to improve it.
The game is still relatively new and over time the rules will settle down and become consistent from year to year but while things are changing and while Dave is still open to suggestions some of us are providing feedback on how we think the game can be improved.
What’s excellent about this game and road.cc is that they’re willing to listen and act on these suggestions. You only have to look at my ‘suggestions for 2012’ thread from the back end of last year to see just how involved the players are and how much they want to help the game develop.
Even if nothing changes the fact that these ideas are considered by the guys behind the scenes is great and a huge plus for the game.
johnboymitchell
My point, too bluntly put
My point, too bluntly put (apologies), was that this is just intended to be a bit of fun. There are various different forms the game could take, each of us has a different idea of what that may be. The rules, however, are the same for everyone so if there is a handicap or grey area it is the same for each player. I have played each year and am crap each time so I propose a system like horse racing where peolpe who do well are penalised! What, no takers…..I am a newbie but have picked
I am a newbie but have picked up the game easily. I havn’t followed cycling before and ive scored solid results average 140 finish top 100 on my second race found it really easy to pick up so Im all for the current set up. đŸ™‚chrisdstripes
Just to say I’m a new player
Just to say I’m a new player and I find it fairly straightforward, and the star riders thing isn’t at all off-putting. It would be easier to pick the riders I want if you were allowed to choose either 3 or 4 star riders, but its the same rules for everyone and I’m really enjoying the research trying to suss out the relative merits of the cheaper domestiques. My modest aim for Paris-Nice is top 10 in East Anglia – bring it on!Gkam84
johnboymitchell wrote:This is
johnboymitchell wrote:This is a free, fun to play GAME! If you don’t like it, don’t play it.There is ALWAYS ONE, do us ALL a favour, go read the above posts, no-one is saying they don’t like it, yes its a game.
But as some of us played last year aswell and can see the changes and differences between both, we are merely commenting on them and suggesting possible changes for the future of this years game or next years
I you dont like what you read, DON’T REPLY đŸ˜€
Stumps
johnboymitchell wrote:This is
johnboymitchell wrote:This is a free, fun to play GAME! If you don’t like it, don’t play it.Mate, your right this is a game, but if you take the time to look and read through the comments and see who submitted them you will see people who play the game on a regular basis, many since its inception, and who are offering ideas on how to make the game easier and more fun for everyone.
Point taken ?
This is a free, fun to play
This is a free, fun to play GAME! If you don’t like it, don’t play it.I agree, bumping the likes of
I agree, bumping the likes of Roy and Taaremae up to star rider status soesn’t sit well with me, making them more expensive I agree with but possibly making them 20 credit DSs might have worked better.Of course with the 4 and 5 split as it is it would be very difficult to fit any DS over, say, 18 credits into your team and still be able to pick anything like a half decent set of star riders. I have three 10-15 credit DSs in my provisional P-N team but to fit them in I’ve had to pick two sub-15 credit stars. Trying to fit one or two 20 credit DSs into my team really wouldn’t work as it stands.
It’s a bit early in the season to be suggesting changes though and I’m looking forward to seeing how things work out over the first lots of proper week long tours (with a mix of sprints and climbs rather than the flat ToQ and ToO) and the Giro, that’ll be the real test of the new rules and I think if they work well for the Giro, TdF and Vuelta alot of the quirks that are thrown up during the shorter tours and classics can, and will, be forgiven.
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