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get rid of the 4 star rider rule

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  • February 21, 2012 at 8:11 am #15158
    nickobec

    Just trying to drum up support to convince Dave & co to get rid of the 4 star rider rule, happy to hear counter arguments.

    Reasons:
    1 Does not make logical sense
    2. Makes the game more complicated (keep it as simple as possible, 9 riders with a budget of 150 points, not 4 riders from this pile & 5 from this pile)
    3 Disadvantages newer players, old hands understand the complexities and …. them. Newer players just scratch their heads or leave in frustration. Want to swap out Bradley Wiggins for Richie Porte, you can’t but you can swap a 4 point for Porte and long as you replace Wiggins with a 26 point star rider

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  • February 21, 2012 at 12:24 pm #666745
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    letsgoup

    I like the new structure but
    I like the new structure but following TERatcliffe26 thread I think the budget is maybe set a bit low, I always seem to have to pick a throw away 2 credit DS to get the riders I actually want. I think 160 credits in the current format would be better or if there was to be a change to 5 star riders and 4 DS then maybe 175 credits. Any changes now would upset the stage high score learderboard though(which I am not on by the way).

    February 21, 2012 at 11:43 am #666743
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    TERatcliffe26

    The rules are the same for
    The rules are the same for everyone and i like the restriction, the only change from my point of view, due to the increase in star riders etc, is that i would have 5 star riders and 4 DS and the credits go back up to 175 credits.

    Also just getting rid of the rule actually wouldnt have any real benefit due to the cost of the riders in any case, as alls you may end up with would be 5 so called star riders and then really cheap current DS riders anyway, so it would need a total price restructure if you abolished the star rider category

    February 21, 2012 at 11:38 am #666741
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    LabMonkey

    I think that too many riders
    I think that too many riders are now in the star rider category and there is not enough real quality in the domestiques*… all of the good picks from last years domestiques are now star riders and I wonder who out of this years batch may make the step up? I think as Dave (and the fantasy cycling team) have learnt the riders over the past two seasons they will have inadvertently made it harder to pick out those bargins, and, the most talented riders** are now too expensive to build a strong and balanced team.

    *there will of course be some surprises, I just can’t see them like I could last season, and definitely the season before.

    **even talented riders have bad days.

    [edit] I quite liked the system of old, one GC, PC, KM, two AR – maybe simply making one of the AR riders into a pick an extra GC, PC, KM or AR rider (of your choice) might have been enough of a change. However, there were many riders in (what I consider) the wrong categories previously. Of course, we can’t have it every way and I think that Dave et al have done a fantastic job. The rules are the rules, and they are the same for everyone.

    February 21, 2012 at 11:03 am #666739
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    STEVESPRO 79

    The 4* rider rule has the
    The 4* rider rule has the thumbs up from me….In my opinion it makes the game easier for the newbies…But if you want to compete to win prizes and not just to make the TV coverage a bit more interesting then you have to do your homework… đŸ™‚

    February 21, 2012 at 10:30 am #666737
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    JAndrewHill

    I like the different groups –
    I like the different groups – like fantasy footy where you have to juggle goalies,defenders, midfielders and forwards. It makes your team more realistics. Like you wouldn’t pick 11 strikers for a footy team, you wouldn’t pick 11 sprinters for a cycling team. Long live the realism of fantasy cycling.

    February 21, 2012 at 9:49 am #666735
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    dave atkinson

    Quote:Disadvantages newer

    Disadvantages newer players, old hands understand the complexities and …. them

    newer players will always be at a disadvantage, no matter what the rules are.

    Newer players just scratch their heads or leave in frustration

    it doesn’t seem that impenetrable to me, but then it wouldn’t i guess cause i’ve spent a lot of time looking at it. anyone else got a view?

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