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“How is this even a question?” Cyclists slam “who’s in the right” poll after rider struck by corner-cutting driver; Red light hypocrisy as lorry driver speeds through junction; LTN congestion claims blasted; Pog on the Poggio + more on the live blog

Is it Milan-Sanremo time yet? No, apparently it’s still just Tuesday, so join Ryan Mallon as he counts down the hours to Pogačar’s attack on the Poggio on the live blog

SUMMARY

12 March 2024, 10:34
Driver cuts corner and hits cyclist waiting at junction (Michael Rammell)
Another day, another “who’s in the right?” cyclist versus driver question – with a glaringly obvious answer (while motorists claim “cyclists do this to themselves”)

Ah, don’t you just love it when you’re waiting to turn right at a junction, and a motorist chooses to cut the corner, ploughing straight into you, and then, five years later, some so-called ‘media personality’ shares it on Twitter and asks “whose mistake was this”?

> Mechanic escapes driving ban after cutting corner straight into cyclist

That’s the unfortunate internet fate that has befallen poor Michael Rammell, who was struck by a BMW driver while out cycling in Berkshire back in March 2019, luckily only suffering some “bumps, scrapes, and bruises”.

Rammell revealed at the time that he had been bombarded by anti-cycling trolls after sharing footage of the collision, describing it as “quite chilling just how many people have no regard for road safety”.

Well, as they say, those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it, and almost exactly five years after the collision, it’s doing the rounds again, having been viewed a whopping 20 million times since Oli London posted it on Twitter on Saturday, alongside the caption: “Whose mistake was this, the driver or the cyclist?”

Let’s just say some of the replies are… predictable.

“Cyclist.  He was supposed to stay single file in his lane,” wrote Robert.

“Cyclists do this to themselves—they think they’re invulnerable to the 2000 pound very fast machines around them, and they want to use the same space as those machines. Their collective sense of entitlement is infuriating,” added another user, perhaps forgetting to note that the motorist in the clip in question certainly felt ‘entitled’ to use the wrong lane while taking a corner.

“I’ll go ahead and piss everybody off by saying 50/50. The cyclist is fault because he was in the middle of the road, rather than the middle of the lane or the outside edge. The car is at fault because they cut the turn too close and entered the wrong lane,” said the diplomatic, but still very wrong, TX Dodge Dude.

Thankfully, others had some sense (a rare commodity on social media these days, mind you).

“How is this even a question? Cyclist never leaves his lane, driver cuts the corner,” noted Glenn, helpfully.

“It’s very clear driver was on wrong side of road,” said the very observant Leilani.

“Car clearly goes into the other lane. Car is in the wrong, all day long,” added Matthew.

Alright, that’s enough of that ‘debate’…

12 March 2024, 17:08
‘It’s definitely the cyclist’s fault… because of, err, reasons’
12 March 2024, 17:23
Edinburgh’s cycle lanes strike again!
12 March 2024, 09:08
Lorry driver speeds through red light in Canada (Chris Crond)
“These damn cyclists need to stop before they kill someone,” jokes cyclist, after filming lorry driver ploughing through red light that’s “only protecting pedestrians and cyclists after all”

We’ve all heard it hundreds of times before: ‘Those pesky cyclists never stop at red lights, they’re a danger to everyone around them’ (to be honest, I’ve seen two or three variants of that very phrase on social media this morning).

However, that kind of anti-cycling energy and focus on red light jumping never seems to be transferred to those with the most potential to, you know, cause harm on the roads.

> "Why I skip red lights": Journalist makes the case for cyclists riding through reds

And that’s the message currently being articulated by Canadian cyclist and TikToker Chris Crond who, while riding his bike at night through the wide, snowy roads of Winnipeg, Manitoba, crossed a junction and looked back just in time to see a lorry driver speeding through a red light.

“Did they just blow through?” he says in the clip. “F***ing joke.”

Tagging the City of Winnipeg’s municipal government in his post, Chris wrote: “Let me take a wild guess, there's nothing you can do about your contracted semis blowing through red lights UNBELIEVABLY dangerously?

“I mean this red light is only protecting pedestrians and cyclists after all right?

“And by the way, if you say there’s nothing you can do or don’t respond, I’m going to step out when I have the right of way next time right as one of these guys are blowing though this red light and see what happens. And if I don’t die, I will be suing you.

“And you notice that fence? That very big blind spot before entering this crosswalk when going South. If you’re biking through here and you have a green light, you’re going to be biking fast. I guess our tax dollars are funding the death of our citizens, huh? Great investment.”

In another version of the video – complete with music and the sarcastic caption ‘Cyclists always run red lights’, Chris continued, tongue firmly in cheek: “These damn cyclists need to stop before they kill someone. They don’t follow any traffic laws and it's unbelievably dangerous.

“It’s time we license bike use like we do with these drivers. Then our streets will be safe.”

The scary part is the number of people who think that would be the case… Until the next lorry driver blows on by.

12 March 2024, 17:02
2023 Milan Sanremo Mathieu van der Poel - 2.jpeg
2023 season “unique and may never happen again”, says Mathieu van der Poel

As he prepares for his season debut, and title defence, at Milan-Sanremo on Saturday, Mathieu van der Poel has admitted that it will be difficult to replicate his career-defining 2023, a year that saw him a maiden rainbow jersey on the road in Glasgow, along with a ‘cross world title and wins at Paris-Roubaix and Sanremo.

Mathieu van der Poel, 2024 men’s UCI World Cyclocross Championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)

(Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)

“Yeah, it was a really special season and it will be really difficult to do it the same or better... is impossible, I think. But for sure, I’m aware of the fact that it was unique and it will maybe never happen again,” Van der Poel, who’s already began his 2024 in style by winning his sixth cyclocross world championships, told the Eurosport Cycling Show, which will air tonight at 5.30pm.

When asked for his favourite moment of 2023, the 29-year-old said: “If I have to pick one, I think the World Championships is something I was always dreaming of, so it was maybe the nicest victory of last year.”

Mathieu van der Poel wins the 2023 world road race championships, Glasgow (Alex Broadway/SWpix.com)

 (Alex Broadway/SWpix.com)

Looking ahead to 2024, Van der Poel reckons his main targets are “mainly the same as I did last year” – with the added bonus of a possible tilt at Olympic gold in the road race or on his mountain bike (or both), with the MTB race coming just eight days after the end of this year’s Tour de France in Nice.

“It’s a bit of a strange year with the Olympics, which is also a goal for me,” the multidiscipline star says. “But yeah, mainly, the big races I target are the same as last year, and then I’ll be at the Olympics.”

In December, Van der Poel told Het Nieuwsblad that he won’t replicate his 2021 season, which saw him leave the Tour early to prepare for the Olympic mountain bike race in Tokyo (one he spectacularly crashed out of in the first lap as Tom Pidcock took gold).

2023 Paris Roubaix Mathieu van der Poel © Zac Williams-SWpix.com - 1 (4)

(Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

“Either I’ll ride the Tour and then I'll only do the road race at the Games,” he said. “Or I don’t ride the Tour and then I do the road race and mountain biking. What I am certainly not going to do is ride the Tour and then leave it earlier, like I did for Tokyo.”

“We had a really good season, especially with Jasper [Philipsen] in the Tour, he was also super successful,” the four-time monument winner tells Eurosport. “So I think we try to improve every year. We will do so next year, but it will be difficult for the team in general to do better than this year.”

Well, despite those cautious words, I wouldn’t bet against Van der Poel emulating his rival and training partner Tadej Pogačar (who won his first race of the season at Strade Bianche) by starting his 2024 with a bang on the Poggio on Saturday…

12 March 2024, 16:59
Giro’s bonkers, “innovative” new time trial helmet makes an appearance… back in 2001

In more ‘there is nothing new under the sun’ news, road.cc founding father Dave – while presumably digging through his old Cycling Plus archives – stumbled upon this dead ringer for Giro’s new “innovative”, crazy, probably soon-to-be-banned Aerohead time trial helmet… being worn by Cyclescheme founder Richard Grigsby way back in 2001.

Richard Grigsby wearing ‘Darth Vader’ time trial helmet in 2001

“John Lafford made it and it fitted over an approved aero helmet,” Grigsby said at the time. “I used it after the excellent ’Get fit for the millennium’ series in Cycling Plus to score my dream of a 20- minute 10.”

Well, at least he got better results out of it than Visma-Lease a Bike have so far (what, too harsh?) And now we finally know where Giro and POC got all their ideas…

12 March 2024, 14:56
Pog on the Poggio (and some questionable wall art)

A well-wrapped up Tadej Pogačar here, helpfully pointing out exactly where he’s going to attack (and warm the hearts of headline writers everywhere) on Saturday, during today’s recon of Milan-Sanremo’s crucial final climb.

Oh, and he also had time during his recce to visit one wall artist’s flattering depiction of the Slovenian superstar (alongside, I assume, Filippo Ganna), located somewhere on the Poggio:

Pogačar on the Poggio during Milan-Sanremo recon (Tadej Pogačar, Instagram)

Yikes.

Rather diplomatically, Pogačar described the portrait as “me in fill ‘sprinter’ version”.

To be fair, Pog in full sprinter mode would be a frightening prospect at La Primavera…

12 March 2024, 14:38
“Maybe the problem isn’t with cyclists, or an ambition for quiet safe residential streets, or Low Traffic Neighbourhoods. Maybe the problem is with too many cars or too many careless drivers”

More from Streatham’s now LTN-less car utopia:

12 March 2024, 13:56
Lambeth Council suspends Streatham LTN trial: The Aftermath

Last week, you may have heard, Lambeth Council announced that it was suspending a controversial Low Traffic Neighbourhood scheme in Streatham Wells with immediate effect, just five months into its intended 12 to 18 month trial period, after opponents claimed that the LTN was causing massive public transport delays (with one three-mile bus journey purportedly taking over two hours) and widespread congestion in the area.

So, with the LTN now gone, I imagine the traffic is flowing freely and smoothly through Streatham?

Or maybe not…

According to the Liveable Streatham Well group, the LTN was suspended on Thursday with “five minutes’ notice”.

“Children went into school in an LTN and came out into this mess,” they said.

“Keep ‘em coming,” added Tom, in response to the group’s video. “Every post shows how blaming LTNs for traffic congestion is ridiculous. They are part of the long-term solution and, while tweaks may be needed, trial periods should run their course and be assessed objectively.”

“Gee, so it wasn’t the LTN that caused the tailbacks,” transport journo Carlton Reid wrote on Twitter this lunchtime. “Who’d’ve thunk it?”

Who’d’ve thunk it indeed, Carlton…

12 March 2024, 13:29
Trek plans to cut spending by 10% and reduce the number of products it offers by 40% – find out why this is important for you, even if you don’t ride a Trek
12 March 2024, 12:56
Decathlon AG2R 2024 kit
Decathlon AG2R unveils another new kit in… errr, March

It seems like only a few months since AG2R joined forces with Decathlon and ditched the iconic, if ever so slightly divisive, brown shorts for a clean cut blue, white, and black look.

Well, that’s because it was only a few months ago.

But today, for some reason – that reason being Decathlon’s quite minimal rebranding and new logo – the French squad has unveiled their second kit design overhaul of 2024:

I have to say, despite the absurdity of releasing a new kit when the old new one had barely made it through Paris-Nice, I quite like its vaguely cosmic stylings.

Although as some people have already pointed out on social media, the varying shades of blue and different coloured sleeve is giving off strong Israel-Premier Tech vibes. And does the 2024 peloton really need another dark blue-dominated jersey?

Bring back the brown shorts, I say!

12 March 2024, 12:37
Wiggle Chain Reaction parent company appoints liquidators

More updates from the rapidly diminishing Wiggle CRC front…

Wiggle down

> Wiggle Chain Reaction parent company appoints liquidators

12 March 2024, 11:55
2023 Hope-Lotus track bike Will Palmer/SWpix.com
“We’ll still make sure we’ve got rounder wheels than everyone else”: Team GB will have better equipment and clothing than any other nation at the Paris Olympics, claims performance director

Team GB will have the roundest wheels, slippiest frames, and most aerodynamic clothing at the Paris Olympics this summer, the squad’s performance director has claimed.

Among the 64 pieces of kit registered by Great Britain and homologated with the UCI at last year’s Glasgow world championships – which marked the cut-off for new pieces of tech and kit ahead of the Olympics – sit a 3D-printed frame, the updated Hope-Lotus HBT bike, and new skinsuits, some of which will remain under wraps until Paris.

“For those of us that are into tech, it’s quite interesting times,” GB performance director Stephen Park says.

“Some pieces of equipment are limited and set by that homologation. Some have some degrees of freedom within them. It’s even more so on the apparel side, the clothing side.”

2023 Hope-Lotus bike

> Lotus and Hope reveal new British Olympic track bike: what’s going on with that seatpost?

Park also confirmed that the new Hope-Lotus bike, which has been raced just once in Glashow, will not be used again until the first race of the Olympics, and that there will “certainly be some 3D-printed products involved in the line-up”.

While noting that Team GB will also take advantage of pieces of equipment homologated by other nations, Park maintained – with a not-so-subtle reference to Dave Brailsford’s infamous 2012 remark that Britain’s success on the track owed to the squad’s “specially round wheels” – that the team will “still make sure we’ve got rounder wheels than everyone else”.

“[We’ll also have] slippier frames than everyone else, and hopefully better apparel than everyone else,” he continued.

“I am confident that, when we go to Paris, no other team will have an equipment and an apparel set-up that will be better than the one that we will be able to provide our riders to give them the best opportunity to deliver their best on the day.”

> Halfords donates state-of-the-art wind tunnel to British Cycling

Thanks to the £1 wind tunnel donated by Halfords back in 2021, formerly of the Boardman Performance Centre but now located near BC HQ in Manchester, Park added that “we've been able to run lots more tests and positioning than we’ve ever done before. We’ve been able to offer it to the Paralympic riders, which we’ve never done before. That has provided us with a great opportunity to progress testing.

“You’re still looking for every half a percent. It’s a challenge, but it’s a good one. We’ve got some really smart people doing some really good work in that space. I’d be quite happy if I was a rider.”

12 March 2024, 11:06
Move over Kate Middleton, there’s a new photo-related conspiracy theory in town…

Royal photo scandals are so yesterday, it’s now Visma-Lease a Bike’s turn to have us all jumping down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole:

Wait a minute, just how tall is Matteo Jorgenson? And how incredibly small is Jonas Vingegaard?

Thankfully, it turns out the Princess of Wales isn’t the only one with rudimentary Photoshop skills. Here’s the original photo – presumably taken by Prince William, possibly in December? – of the Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico winners standing side-by-side (and posing with what appears to be a trophy sponsored by a chamois cream manufacturer)…

That’s more like it (still a sizeable difference though, for two elite stage racers).

Thank goodness as well, because the road.cc office was swiftly turning into that Father Ted scene in the caravan. And no, I wasn’t Dougal, I promise!

12 March 2024, 11:28
Speaking of Dodgy Royal Photogate…

Maybe Kate’s Photoshopping skills were a bit off simply because she was riding her bike at the time?

Kate Middleton

Quick, someone get me Kensington Palace on the phone, we’ve cracked it!

12 March 2024, 10:12
Cyclist who survived cougar attack had face trapped in cat’s bite for 15 minutes before other riders used bike to pin animal down

Jeepers. More shocking details have emerged about the incident in the United States last month which saw a group of five cyclists attacked by a mountain lion, which was eventually shot by a ranger after it had been pinned to the ground by the riders who used a mountain bike to overpower it.

Keri McCorkle suffered severe trauma to her face as well as permanent nerve damage after the cougar latched onto her lower jaw, keeping her head in its bite for 15 minutes while the other riders tried to free her by hitting the big cat with a rock and a multi-tool. The 60-year-old cyclist was eventually freed after the animal tried to reposition its bite, giving her a second to escape.

Keri McCorkle (GoFundMe)

Read more: > Cyclist who survived cougar attack had face trapped in cat’s bite for 15 minutes before other riders used bike to pin animal down

Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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kingleo | 2 months ago
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I cycled to and from work in London for 48 years, starting from 1958 - I can tell you from experience that we had huge traffic jams in London a long time before bus /cycle lanes and LTNs. The only way to reduce the traffic jams in London is to reduce the amount of traffic considerably - motorways and motorway-type roads that lead into London have made the traffic jams a lot worse.

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brooksby | 2 months ago
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Victoria Lebrec can’t be sure if what she knows about 8 December 2014 is from her own memory, or the BBC video cameras that captured her bleeding heavily at the side of the road, tyre marks visible across her crushed pelvis from the lorry that knocked her from her bicycle. Or maybe what she knows is from the CCTV footage that was reviewed first as evidence in a criminal case and then in a gruelling, victim-blaming struggle for the compensation she urgently needed. How else would she buy the £70,000 prosthetic leg her injuries required? And how else could she find closure and move on in her changed reality and changed body?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/mar/13/lost-leg-after-bein...

 

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essexian | 2 months ago
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Re: the cutting of corner video....

I've said it before and i'll keep saying it but its STUPID in the extreme that we only have to take our test once, unless we do something stupid and get a ban with a retest.... not very likely given how few Police there are on the streets now.

Its time for a re-test every five years. I have to prove I still have the skills to do my job every year and all I do is push paper" from one inbox to another! 

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bikes replied to essexian | 2 months ago
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Wouldn't more enforcement be better? Eg what will happen to this driver? A test just proves you can pay attention for 45 minutes, after which a lot of people will drive completely differently.

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hawkinspeter replied to bikes | 2 months ago
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bikes wrote:

Wouldn't more enforcement be better? Eg what will happen to this driver? A test just proves you can pay attention for 45 minutes, after which a lot of people will drive completely differently.

Absolutely.

I don't care how someone drove during a test - I care how they drive around me. Due to the lack of traffic police and the lackluster treatment of dangerous drivers by both the police and the courts, most drivers think they can just drive as selfishly as they want.

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NOtotheEU replied to hawkinspeter | 2 months ago
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You can't blame the BMW driver for cutting the corner, he'd just read online how dangerous ebike batteries are and was rushing home to check his ebike riding neighbour hadn't burnt down his house.

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chrisonabike replied to bikes | 2 months ago
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I think yet again it's "both".

Repeat testing does have benefits:

  • Should screen out those who e.g. may no longer be physically capable of driving safely.
  • Provides a prompt for people to keep abreast of current regulations - and indeed road infra!
  • There's some "politics" in this in that it signals driving is neither an "inalienable right" nor is it a club where after "initiation" you're a member for life.

Agree that more enforcement is also vital.  If there's very little chance of getting nicked we know that substantial fractions of people will "bend the rules" (break the law).  Far more than 50% for some speed limits and likely nearly everyone for driving on the footway.

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bikes replied to chrisonabike | 2 months ago
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I think the problem is things like this are seen as 'bad, but not that bad'. The chances of getting caught for texting, running lights, not paying attention etc are low and the fines or bans are tiny or nonexistent.

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john_smith | 2 months ago
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'"Cyclist.  He was supposed to stay single file in his lane,” wrote Robert.'

It would certainly be worrying if a solitary cyclist were to do anything but stay in single file in his lane. Maybe Robert was very drunk.

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ride2smile | 2 months ago
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Lots of similarities between this article about ski helmets and cycle helmets.

https://www.skimag.com/gear/50-year-stud-on-helmets-and-injury-prevention/

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eburtthebike replied to ride2smile | 2 months ago
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Thanks, interesting, and as you say, the parallels are striking (pun intended).

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hawkinspeter replied to ride2smile | 2 months ago
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ride2smile wrote:

Lots of similarities between this article about ski helmets and cycle helmets.

https://www.skimag.com/gear/50-year-stud-on-helmets-and-injury-prevention/

I'm curious now about why the men had leg injuries and the women had knee injuries

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eburtthebike replied to hawkinspeter | 2 months ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:
ride2smile wrote:

Lots of similarities between this article about ski helmets and cycle helmets. https://www.skimag.com/gear/50-year-stud-on-helmets-and-injury-prevention/

I'm curious now about why the men had leg injuries and the women had knee injuries

I wondered that too, but concluded that women must have knees other than on their legs: don't ask me where.

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chrisonabike replied to eburtthebike | 2 months ago
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They come after their names when married?  Mrs Smith, née Jones?

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hawkinspeter replied to eburtthebike | 2 months ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:
ride2smile wrote:

Lots of similarities between this article about ski helmets and cycle helmets. https://www.skimag.com/gear/50-year-stud-on-helmets-and-injury-prevention/

I'm curious now about why the men had leg injuries and the women had knee injuries

I wondered that too, but concluded that women must have knees other than on their legs: don't ask me where.

Must be their kidneys

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MTB Refugee | 2 months ago
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Someone did exactly the same thing to me, cut the corner and smashed into me. Only difference was that I was also in a car (as a front seat passenger)...

In the case of it being car vs car whose fault is it, the car driver or the car driver? It's a super simple question; if the bike were are car, who would be at fault? Clearly it would be the car that drove into the stationary vehicle, there's really no argument.

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mitsky replied to MTB Refugee | 2 months ago
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"Clearly it would be the DRIVER that drove into the stationary vehicle..."

http://rc-rg.com

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mctrials23 | 2 months ago
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Another case of "how on earth have all these people got licences" and "holy shit I share the roads with people like this" moment. The mind boggles. I think you could actually remove a large proportion of bad drivers from the roads with an online questionnaire on road safety and fault. Show them clips like this and ask them to rate who is at fault on a scale of 1-10 and see what happens. 

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Matthew Acton-Varian replied to mctrials23 | 2 months ago
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And you can bet that a driver like that, if there was no queue of cars looking to exit the junction that the car that hit the cyclist would have turned so early they would have nearly mounted a kerb (if there was one) - Seen it all too often from distracted or impatient drivers. Imagine if Give Way lines had alligator teeth to within 2ft of the centre line - drivers wouldn't cut corners then, would they? ( I know that long or abnormal load vehicles would not have manouvring space at many junctions for this to be viable)

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stonojnr | 2 months ago
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Streatham LTN? pulled out you say, no doesnt ring any bells

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wycombewheeler replied to stonojnr | 2 months ago
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stonojnr wrote:

Streatham LTN? pulled out you say, no doesnt ring any bells

wish the parents of the one streatham campaigners had "pulled out"

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mitsky | 2 months ago
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CycleGaz's own evidence showing the difference made to congestion during school holidays and term time...
Now what is it that is causing traffic gridlock again...?
Oh yes, cyclists and LTNs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57UgWLCfRg

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Mr Hoopdriver replied to mitsky | 2 months ago
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Thanks.

I really enjoyed that for the "traffic jamming".   I missed the quiet side and was rivetted to the normal day ride.

 

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Left_is_for_Losers | 2 months ago
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Was Lambeth Council a LABOUR council?

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chrisonabike replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 2 months ago
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I'm sure Flintshire Lad would have let us know in the traditional manner...

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Left_is_for_Losers replied to chrisonabike | 2 months ago
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I thought I'd better mention it seeing as road.cc, the most left leaning, woke and loosely cycling related politics website omitted to state the fact. 

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Clem Fandango replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 2 months ago
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very woke of you

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perce replied to Clem Fandango | 2 months ago
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I agree.

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Car Delenda Est replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 2 months ago
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Labour is woke? Good one.

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perce replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 2 months ago
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Do you know, I've been on the internet for years and years and I'm still not half way through all the websites out there. Keep trying, and I'm sure you'll find one you like.

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