With the eyes of the world on Glasgow for the next fortnight as the city hosts the crucial COP26 climate change conference, making it difficult if not impossible for people to use active means to get around the city is not a good look.
> Cyclists converge on Glasgow as COP26 conference begins
But that’s the situation that Thomas Cornwallis, convenor of GoBike, the Strathclyde cycling campaign, found himself in earlier today when security guards on what is a permitted cycle route refused to open a barrier so he could ride through.
Instead, the security staff directed him onto an adjacent footway, but as Cornwallis – who was riding away from the location where the summit is being held – pointed out, with no ramp on the kerb, it was not accessible to everyone.
I’m on the left filming this. Small world, eh? pic.twitter.com/6GC0Gk82It
— George Allison (@geoallison) November 1, 2021
Cornwallis told road.cc: “The lack of understanding that telling someone to dismount and lift a bike onto a pavement, is not safe or accessible for everyone is extremely shocking, especially at the front gates of COP26.
“We don’t tell bus drivers to get out and push, why do we punish people cycling just because they cycled!”
Besides cyclists, the lack of a ramp also makes it impossible for people with reduced mobility such as users of wheelchairs or mobility scooters to access the footway at that location, as well as making it very difficult for parents with pushchairs.
The barrier is on Lancefield Quay, close to the junction with Elliot Street on the north side of the Clyde, and which forms part of National Cycle Route 75.
It lies outside the COP26 site itself, and is one of the cycle routes highlighted as remaining open by Glasgow City Council in its travel advice related to the hosting of the conference.
The barrier was eventually opened – almost certainly to let an approaching bus through, rather than the security staff relenting and letting the cyclist pass – and Cornwallis rode through, turning left onto Elliot Street.
In a post on its website last month ahead of the first road closures coming into force ahead of the conference, GoBike said it was “deeply disappointed” that most of its suggestions had not been acted upon by the council, and that there had been a “missed opportunity” to promote active travel during the conference.
The group said: “GoBike have pushed hard for improvements to the initial diversion proposals and have had a few of our suggested improvements taken on board and implemented.
“We are however deeply disappointed that stronger decisions were not made to keep our sustainable form of transport safe and attractive to everyone during the climate conference.
“This was a missed opportunity for the city to make active travel the easiest choice during a period of road closures and predicted traffic chaos around Glasgow.
“We’ve said this before, and we will say it again,” GoBike continued. “The eyes of the world will be on our city during COP, and we had a key opportunity to demonstrate that active travel is a large part of the solution to the climate crisis we face.
“We believe that opportunity has now been missed. Not only will delegates be unable to reach the main conference site by bike, but people who live in and around Glasgow will find using bikes harder to get around during the conference.”
The commitment of world leaders to seriously tackle climate change has been questioned as the conference starts, with many flying in from Rome yesterday following the G20 summit in Rome, and Channel 4 correspondent Ciaran Jenkins highlighting heavy motor traffic around the COP26 site.
Side streets around #COP26 are choked up with chauffeur-driven cars and vans, many with their engines idling. Interesting look for a climate conference. pic.twitter.com/9NO83ydN0w
— Ciaran Jenkins (@C4Ciaran) November 1, 2021
Cars Our Priority 26 #COP26 pic.twitter.com/nq03RYX1Fk
— Thomas O. Cornwallis (@UrbanistTOC) November 1, 2021
63 thoughts on “Security guards refuse to open barrier for cyclist on permitted route near COP26 site”
Don’t even get me started on
Don’t even get me started on this. I’ve friends who I was going to visit next week, but put that off because of the traffic in their area when there is normally plenty of parking.
Then there is the issue with the security, much infighting and there has already been a stabbing on the cruise ship hosting them all. I’ve friends down there doing driving and on security. They have people from all forms of life, ex-military and police right through to junkies and ex-offenders. Not saying that everyone shouldn’t get the same chance at work, but at such an event, the security should be vetted and be the best they can get…
No surprises there; isn’t
No surprises there; isn’t Glasgow always a bit ‘stabby’?
It did have a very serious
It did have a very serious problem with knife crime.
It has had a hugely successful change when knife crime was seen as a Public Health Problem. Glasgow’s record on knife crime is much improved.
A radical approach to tackling knife crime in Scotland – Civil Service Quarterly (blog.gov.uk)
Edit: my work browser settings doesn’t like links
https://quarterly.blog.gov.uk/2019/07/04/a-radical-approach-to-tackling-knife-crime-in-scotland/
“Don’t even get me started on
“Don’t even get me started on this. I’ve friends who I was going to visit next week, but put that off because of the traffic in their area when there is normally plenty of parking.”
Exactly. There’s far too little parking space now, due to all those pesky bike-lanes and negotions on fighting climate change, which seem so annyoing when we want to visit our friends by motor-car…
<irony off> In the end, fighting climate change is a pain – but necessary and with huge rewards (well, avoided capital punishment…) in the future.
Yes, I was going to visit by
Yes, I was going to visit by motorcar, the parking is nothing to do with bike lanes.
I live over 125 miles away. It’s under 3 hours in a car, which includes stopping to pick up someone else en route. While 125 miles may not seem like a lot, to get there by public transport would take me over 6 hours each way and on a Sunday (when everyone had time) even if I just spent 10 minutes in Glasgow, it would restrict me from coming home on a Sunday, getting the first bus in the morning, an early train, then getting straight on the return train. I would still miss the last bus home in the evening. So until there is a vast improvement in public transport in Scotland, it’s unviable for many. The bus service we have here doesn’t even let you take a bicycle with you either.
Shades of Plebgate.
Shades of Plebgate.
We’re in the midst of the
We’re in the midst of the most important climate change conference in history, and some guy is screaming “LOOK AT ME!” because he was asked to use the footpath?
Give me a break
Nigel Garage wrote:
My irony meter just exploded.
Quite. On a ver personal note
Quite. On a very personal note, I visit this site for cycling related news and information and to read, and occasionally take part in discussions – whatever the topic.
The supposed ‘alternative’ views being posted on multiple topics by some people are anything but as they can be found and heard pretty much anywhere from multiple sources – news websites, social media, tv, out on street, btl comments, and definitely when out cycling. They are just mainstream views, and they are views I have been exposed to for many, many years and have rejected. I bloody want this site to be at least a bit of an echo chamber as an escape from the poison and hostility that the majority of people and media seem all too happy to spout and exhibit on most topics but especially when the topic is cycling.
This oasis has been visited by a storm overflow.
Podc wrote:
It is possible to have a different view without being poisonous or hostile. Admittedly some forums are beyond hope but I’d like to think we can do better here.
Rendel Harris wrote:
My irony meter just exploded.— Nigel Garage
Well, quite. I think some other comments are somewhat vicious. Nigel may be a troll at times; even when he is presenting a valid antithesis, he may do so in a clumsy fashion with all the false energy and credible robustness of a sacrificial anode. But sometimes he poses a question that is an appropriate consideration, and sometimes he is the Timothy Claypole – the idiot who speaks plainly to kings. Mostly not, of course; mostly he is just a troll.
Is is appropriate to be upset about having to ride up the kerb in the greater context of a world-saving conference? Is that anger equal to anger at the hypocrisy of world leaders flying in with enormous motorcades?
Well, yes, it is. Firstly, how else do we realistically expect world leaders, with bullseyes forever painted on their heads, to arrive at a high profile global event? It is one thing for Greta Thunberg to travel by yacht and electric vehicle; but, whether we like it or not, these leaders do not have the time to do that. Yet they need to meet, because Zoom doesn’t quite do it. The carbon footprint of this event is individually huge but globally insignificant.
What is more significant is the fact that the city hosts had the opportunity to think this one through. They had input from local groups. And they still get it wrong, and have not communicated what is needed to those people who are appear to be stuck in security grunt mode, rather than to consider the strategic context.
That so what this story is: it’s about local event planning with active travel in mind. The COP26 is the MacGuffin.
so, Timothy Claypole, take the break you asked for.
Superb – “sacrificial anode”
Superb – “sacrificial anode” and “Timothy Claypole” both made me chuckle
GMBasix wrote:
Can someone frame this and hang it at the door? Nigel in a paragraph.
Rendel Harris wrote:
My irony meter just exploded.
— Nigel GarageI’m ordering them in bulk from China (all the Brit manufacturers have closed after Brexit) and I’m thinking of upping my order to a complete container, given the rapidly increasing prevelance of twats.
Nigel Garage wrote:
Why don’t you just crawl back under your little pebble and give the rest of us peace,
“Why don’t you just crawl
“Why don’t you just crawl back under your little pebble and give the rest of us peace,…”
Exactly. Who cares about climate change. All made up… <irony off>
You might or might not know
You might or might not know that Our Nige, (old username Boo who was banned for being racist) is a massive supporter of the Losing President in the 2020 election. So to be honest, it wasn’t just the line quoted by Rendel that exploded the Irony meter but the “most important climate change conference in history”. If the lying, far right supporting, conspiracy spewing liar had somehow still be in charge, the US would still be out of the Paris Accords AND he probably wouldn’t have bothered turning up to this one because “there is no such thing as global warming” (whilst tweeting pics of the worst winters on record in the States.)
Fact check: Potus 45 has
Fact check: Potus 45 has already stated that climate change is a very important issue to him. He’s been the most environmentally-focussed president in the history of the USA. But it has to be balanced with providing energy stability to the population and keeping the US competitve. Look at what’s happened to gas and electricity prices in the last few months – it probably doesn’t bother the people on this website, but it’s going to cause real pain to hard working families in the months and years ahead.
As you’ve just witnessed, this Glasgow conference has been a mixture of hypocrisy (the planes and cars alone caused as much pollution as a small town’s yearly carbon output), empty statements and grandstanding. He was right to dismiss the Paris accord and note that the Chinese government (who account for a third of the world’s total greenhouse emissions – more than 4x the EU and UK’s emissions combined) aren’t serious about changing their disgraceful record on pollution.
Still, at least Sleepy Joe managed to catch a bit of a breather over the last couple of days. Roll on 2024! Good luck with Kamala!
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
Interesting that Nige replied to you, but didn’t challenge or engage with any of your post.
He isn’t very good at this debate thing is he?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_policy_of_the_Donald_Trump_administration#:~:text=In%20a%20White%20House%20speech,and%20%22crystal%20clean%22%20water.
What part of his post do you
What part of his post do you want me to engage with exactly? It appeared to be a morass of vague or untrue allegations and personal abuse.
Let’s face it, being called racist by one of these guys is like being called a called an anti-semite by Jeremy Corbyn. It’s a waste of time being dragged down engaging.
But I like to set the record straight on Trump, as I do think he has received an unfairly biased press in the UK generally. Hence the fact check.
Well windmills causing cancer
Well windmills causing cancer, having to flush his toilet a few times because he is so full of shit a normal toilet cannot handle when it overflows, removing pollutions controls on factories and car manufacturers, tweeting out Anti-Climate change conspiracy theories, pulling out of the Paris Accord.
Those are some of the “enviromental” words and actions made by Dick A L’orange in his four years in charge of one of the powerhouses of the world. But Boo, who was banned for being racist no matter what he states*, finds one lie out of 30,000+ and still counting, and holds him up as the standard the whole world should be aiming for. Hmm, I wonder if he asks Drumpf if he is pregnant in a bantz style. I’m sure it would go down well with him. After all 54 is a turd who held a grudge because someone once said his hands were small. Oh and wanted his Press Secretary to put out a statement his Dick didn’t look like a toad.
*Supposedly he wanted to leave and asked for his account to be deleted, but then came back under a different username to continue his trolling, who the fuck leaves like that and then comes back like that, lies when confronted who he is by saying he has never heard of Boo, lies again by stating he isn’t Boo but spoke to him somehow (no DM’s plus account banned permanently), and now seems to accept we know who he is which is a liar as big as the Orange Manbaby.
Was it my imagination but did
Was it my imagination but did Boos bestest ever enviromental person release a statement a day ago stating Climate Change was the 7th biggest hoax in the world or something along that lines.
Still Boo found a video of one of “OrangePantsonFire” many, many lies and holds it up as definiteive proof.
Oh give it a break would you,
Oh give it a break would you, Donald Trump is completely correct to be cynical about these climate change talks. They’ve achieved nothing of note and fall far short of what is required. There are also many many companies and vested interests taking advantage of “green” subsidies to scam governments and taxpayers out of cash.
Just today the BBC put out the propaganda headline “More than 40 countries pledge to quit coal“. So which countries are they? Oh, the “major coal-using countries including Poland, Vietnam and Chile”…
You’ll notice the US refused to make that commitment, and their policies haven’t changed since Donald Trump was president, so if he was the big bogeyman holding back progress where is it now?
I noticed Sadiq Khan smarmying up to the Democrats despite this obvious hypocrisy (no surprise there), here he is with John Kerry:
But you know as well as we do
But you know as well as we do that Trump isn’t just cynical about this particular conference, he believes that climate change itself is a hoax, something he has stated repeatedly.
The philosophers debated for
The philosophers debated for days about whether the wisdom of man could be written on the head of a pin.
Then one of them said, “what if the man were Donald Trump?”
They all nodded and then they went for a beer.
Exactly, someone who
Exactly, someone who regularly spouts conspiracy theory shit including mentioning multiple times that climate change is not happening and is a hoax DOESN’T BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE and so can’t be (self proclaimed normally) the worlds biggest enviromentalist.
Still, he lies regulalry, is racist and very alt right so of course boo loves him, even though he seems to normally denigrate anyone else with that body shape.
Nigel Garage wrote:
Permission granted. Better still, piss off and don’t bother coming back.
Nigel’s posts (and sense of
Nigel’s posts (and sense of humour) may seem trollish at times – but he also helps to keep discussions in this forum grounded. He also stays polite, which can’t be said about your carefully worded post, I’m afraid…
anke wrote:
I wouldn’t want uniformity here! However as far as “keeps discussions … grounded” that’s at best this some kind of “BBC definition” of “grounded” you’ve got there – adding a different kind of lunatic to the asylum and claiming that on average you’ve a reasonable balance of views.
I suspect Nigel would be offended if he didn’t get any abuse…
As for polite that might be true outside the internet but on here Nigel has a track record of not particularly polite behaviour and an appreciation of “knockabout humour”. Doesn’t trouble me too much, it’s rather tedious – but it’s a forum! If some people are mostly on here for the “let’s see what outraged / abusive reaction I can get” that’s them. There are occasional accounts with nothing constructive / informative / amusing to add but even they generally get a pass.
chrisonatrike wrote:
Hey – leave me out of it!
So Biden flies into Edinburgh
So Biden flies into Edinburgh, then travels along the motorway to Glasgow as part of a 20+ vehicle convoy.
Protecting the environment, aye right ye are.
One example out of many, all here in Glasgow to tell us plebs how to save the planet when they sh*t all over it.
Vehicles that Biden flew in
Vehicles that Biden flew in from the USA. In Rome he had a convoy of 85 vehicles. They keep telling we need to do things differently but show no leadership by changing their own behaviour.
Yes there’s a lot of
Yes there’s a lot of hypocrisy from the leaders, but if we use that as an excuse to argue for no action we’re all in trouble.
I sympathise but no. Its
I sympathise but no. Its functionally exactly the same as complaining about the cost of his cavalcade, but ignoring the fact that he can move trillions of dollars around on a whim (present issues getting his bill through not withstanding). Even his cavalcade is a drop in the Ocean compared to the changes he can make,
There’s virtue signalling – Joe and his team riding in on bikes for example – then there’s accomplishing stuff. Time will tell whether COP26 delivers more of the former or more of the latter.
I cycled to and from the
I cycled to and from the conference centre this evening and while it’s not perfect, it’s still a lot more bike friendly than most other big conferences I’ve had the misfortune of attending in the UK and elsewhere.
You can lock your bike up 20 metres from the entrance, there are clearly marked cycle routes to all of the major destinations in Glasgow and there is detailed information on cycling available to the people attending. It could definitely be better but it feels really misguided to be grumbling about little things at a time when there are a lot of people with really nefarious aims seeking to discredit the talks and any action on climate.
While I’m at it- the lack of a ramp making it “very difficult” for parents to access the footpath? At least he’s got a sense of humour.
a4th wrote:
You can lock your bike up 20 metres from the entrance, there are clearly marked cycle routes to all of the major destinations in Glasgow and there is detailed information on cycling available to the people attending. It could definitely be better but it feels really misguided to be grumbling about little things at a time when there are a lot of people with really nefarious aims seeking to discredit the talks and any action on climate.
While I’m at it- the lack of a ramp making it “very difficult” for parents to access the footpath? At least he’s got a sense of humour.— a4thOn the news this morning; disabled delegate in wheelchair trying to get in waits two hours then goes back to her hotel.
Yeah that isn’t ideal isn’t
Yeah that isn’t ideal isn’t it. Sounds like she tried to drive to the venue and they wouldn’t let her in which is sort of amusing in light of some of the tweets and comments in this article. Seen a number of people in wheelchairs at the event already this morning so this feels more like bad organisation than anything else.
a4th wrote:
No.
The issue was a lack of accessible shuttles, and a refusal to allow her to simply access the venue “on foot” (as it were), in addition to refusing to allow her entry with her adapted vehicle.
Fun fact, she’d easily win if she wanted to put in a claim for damages.
Crippledbiker wrote:
Yeah that isn’t ideal isn’t it. Sounds like she tried to drive to the venue and they wouldn’t let her in which is sort of amusing in light of some of the tweets and comments in this article. Seen a number of people in wheelchairs at the event already this morning so this feels more like bad organisation than anything else.
— Crippledbiker No. The issue was a lack of accessible shuttles, and a refusal to allow her to simply access the venue “on foot” (as it were), in addition to refusing to allow her entry with her adapted vehicle. Fun fact, she’d easily win if she wanted to put in a claim for damages.— a4th
According to the news articles, the distance from the closed gate (that they wouldn’t open for her) to the doors of the building (which was an inaccessible building anyway) was close to a kilometre.
The shuttle bus wasn’t accessible (so what was it’s point?), and she said that this was too far for her to travel ‘on foot’ (not unreasonably, IMO).
I presume she went back to the hotel and hit the minibar while drafting a complaint…
brooksby wrote:
My understanding matches this, though with the added detail of her apparently not being permitted to access “on foot” (though as you say, quite reasonable for her to decline to do so).
Oh, and in not providing accessible shuttles?
Yeah, that’s another violation of the law – in terms of EA2010 S.20, S.21, S.29, S.149, the event organisers are what is known technically as “fucked”.
For added fun bonuses, go read S.109, S.111 and S.112.
In her place I would not have started drafting a complaint; I would have started drafting a Letter Before Action.
Great posts as ever !
Great posts as ever !
This massive sample of one
This massive sample of one gives significant evidence for what exactly?
anke wrote:
Obviously that there’s a problem. Whether it’s widespread or not isn’t determined but it’s highlighting a serious issue.
Really? Is it a serious
Really? Is it a serious issue? We dont know the full circumstances of what happened or why this one person couldnt access the Conference and decided to make a song and dance about it – may be validly, maybe not. I dont think its unreasonable to ascribe 1 incident more to the cockup than conspiracy side of the equation. Now if others are having the same experience then maybe’s there’s an actual problem.
Even if it’s only afffected
Even if it’s only afffected one person, it’s still a serious issue for them. Accessibility is hardly a new requirement and it’s not difficult to implement when they are prepared to fly in leaders on jets (i.e. lots of money spent).
Yes, in the scheme of things, stripping one person’s dignity might not be considered important, but the problem is that proper thought needs to be given to people with different needs. I don’t think it’s a conspiracy – just carelessness.
anke wrote:
It’s not a sample, it’s a news report about an individual.
It would be interesting to know whether anyone else, whether wheelchair user or not, has had accessibility issues at Cop26.
With the correct framing
With the correct framing every data point is a sample of one…
Typical anti-cyclist behavior
Typical anti-cyclist behavior. Give a
monkeymotorist a uniform, but they’re still a motorist.I’d call it little-hitler
I’d call it little-hitler behaviour. Something about how they guy says “I’m not opening this [gate] for you”. Give a small minded person a little bit of power that he doesn’t get much chance to use.
You know, it’s not all about
You know, it’s not all about cyclists…
(Although I agree that a lot more should be!!!)
One guy trying to force low
One guy trying to force low wage labour to move the heavy barrier for him being the victim of motoristicm? (By low wage workers probably not even able to afford a car?)
A little hop onto the pavement would have done, seeming less selfish – in particular given the (negligible) frequency and (almost infinite) importance of this conference.
And arguing that wheel and push-chairs could not have gotten through does seem a little constructed – I’m sure the guys would have been happy to help lifting them up/down the pavement.
Regarding silly motorcades: yep, they’re increadibly wasteful – but having Joe Biden shot for “stealing the elections”, while riding in on his (not armoured…) push-bike, is probably not what the world needs. (Even if the man himself would probably prefer to come by bicycle.)
An Israeli representative to
An Israeli representative to COP26 couldn’t get in at all, according to the Grauniad – the premises aren’t fully chair-accessible, she couldn’t walk the distance from the barriers to the door, and they wouldn’t allow her to take her car right up to the door. They offered a shuttle-bus, but that also wasn’t wheelchair accessible.
(PS – apparently Johnson is flying back to London in a private jet after COP26 – how’s that for setting an example?)
COP26: UK apologises to
COP26: UK apologises to Israeli minister for wheelchair access problems – BBC News
anke wrote:
Force them? Where’s the force? What’s he threatening them with? Weapons? A multi-tonne vehicle? A high court injuction? Fruity language? His really big dad that he’s brought on the back of his bicycle?
I think we’ve all got this in us so useful to see it for what it is – someone who’s an “outsider” coming and asking those in a position of authority / power for their full quota of “rights”. This seems to quickly go from “irritating little person” to “entitled tosser” and in some cases this quickly becomes a percieved threat justifying violence (“he needs a good slap”).
I personally wouldn’t have made a drama out of it because the problem started with whoever put in that barrier rather than the bouncers. (The actual barrier design with those “chokepoints” has caused issues elsewhere too – think there were issues with a similar one in Cambridge). However I’m sure he’ll also take this up with those in charge. Unless we all keep pointing out the issues wherever people – that we as the public collectively employ – effectively aren’t doing their job things will slide.
International conferences actually happen regularly – you may recall this one from earlier this year – and I believe they plan them more than a couple of weeks before they happen. So it’s not unreasonable to expect that we could master the changes to street design for these things. I recall there were also complaints about access issues at the Cornwall one which sounded a lot more “constrained by the location” that Glasgow.
As for the “infinite importance” – in theory it is, but that’s got nothing to do with some basic street infrastructure. As for the “seriousness” from the news it looks much like business as usual at an international get-together sadly.
See comments from others. I think our society has mostly agreed that “they can wait for someone to carry them” isn’t a suitable standard for acessibility.
anke wrote:
I’m afraid that comment betrays a certain ignorance of how disabled people feel (I speak with the proviso that I’m only referring to those I know): they want to be able to get around independently when and where they wish. Yes, there will (nearly) always be people around to help them over/around/through barriers to their mobility – most folk are very decent and help when they can – but they don’t want to have to rely on others, they want to be independent, that’s why it’s so important that planners ensure they can get around without needing to call on others to help them.
Sure – but why would anyone
Sure – but why would anyone expect a wheel-chair on the road, rather than on the pavement where the gates were open?
An awful lot of discussion
An awful lot of discussion here about a scenario that quite possibly wouldn’t happen. Wheelchairs and pushchairs would probably use the pavement, and if they had to use the road they might well receive a different reaction from the gatekeepers. We don’t actually know (but what does that matter on the internet?).
anke wrote:
Ehhem.
Rendel Harris wrote:
Exactly this.
Any org or body that expects me to wait for – or even allow – somebody to lift me and my chair is going to be paying me very shortly thereafter.
EA2010 S.20(3),(4),(5),(9). S.21, S.29 and since this is a government gig, S.149 is in play.
Damages start at £1300, and are per-instance, not per-location.
We used to have a lady in a
We used to have a lady in a wheelchair at work. She had the “push” handles removed so no one could offer help (plus reduced the weight) and she propelled herself at speed around the office when she was in.
In the regional office where she was based, we had a small electrical fire once. After the fire damage was repaired and the power was restored, the backup UPS didn’t kick in so the local servers didn’t start. She offered to get around the back of the comms cabinet and move the power cables around so the servers could come back up. In the meantime her local boss then rang up our manager to complain we were making a disabled lady drag herself around. As the IT bod said, she offered, was he to say “no you can’t, you are disabled”.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
I usually take the handles off my ‘chairs for that exact reason (except in certain circumstances) – I do not want people to move me without my express consent, and I’m not going to provide an easy-to-grab interface for them to do so.
I also move a lot quicker around the office than the bipeds around me can – Helped by the fact that I can coast, you poor gits have to keep moving your legs 😉
anke wrote:
How dare cyclists expect people to do their jobs, and not have to break the law to get from A to B.
Fun fact: If your job is to open and close a barrier for traffic you won’t keep your job if you don’t open and close the barrier for traffic.
anke wrote:
[snip]
Regarding silly motorcades: yep, they’re increadibly wasteful – but having Joe Biden shot for “stealing the elections”, while riding in on his (not armoured…) push-bike, is probably not what the world needs. (Even if the man himself would probably prefer to come by bicycle.)— anke
One guy asking low wage labour to do the job they’re getting that low wage for. Is that what you mean?
As for Sleepy Joe, I doubt if he knows where he is and having him shot would solve the problem of how they;re going to remove him and put Kamala Harris in the hot seat.