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kil0ran
Much like Garmin, Wahoo seem
Much like Garmin, Wahoo seem to test in public. I had their RFLKT+ for a few years, worked perfectly and then didn’t following an update. Took them months to fix by which time I’d bought an Edge 130 (which has been brilliant for the past 5 years)kil0ran
4600 FD is veeery sensitive
4600 FD is veeery sensitive and seems to go out of adjustment really easily. Even when set up right it’s quite stiff to shift compared to newer Shimano FDs. I end up making a lot of use of the barrel adjuster on the hood, it’s hard to maintain enough tension for a clean shift up to the big ringkil0ran
4700 isn’t on it’s own. Same
4700 isn’t on it’s own. Same pull as the 11sp groups. Think of it as 10sp R7000
(New Tiagra will be 11sp btw)kil0ran
Anything 11 or 12 speed works
Anything 11 or 12 speed works with 4700.
So R7000, R8000, and R9000 mechs are the best bet. Ultegra 6800 will do the job too.kil0ran
Just bear in mind that the
Just bear in mind that the setup procedure is very different for that style of mech, a definite RTFM moment as it’s quite counterintuitive. Shifting is brilliant once it’s set though.kil0ran
Roads closed everywhere else
Roads closed everywhere else 20 mins before the convoy arrives I think
Full details with approx timings here (scroll down for image)
For example, you’d need to be on Brading Down by 11:16, with riders expected at 11:36. That’s only 20 mins after the start so I don’t think you’d make it there if you’re going to actually watch them riding in the neutral zone.
Sorry, don’t know if road closures apply to bikes
kil0ran
Your suggestion sounds like
Your suggestion sounds like it would work but you’ll need to shift it to get to Brading before they do, particularly if a break goes. At least it’s mostly downhill to Ventnor from there, and it’s not that bad a ride back to Ryde either. ZigZag will be packed I’d imagine and the pavements are really narrow with limited places to chuck your bike. If you do miss them at Brading head straight to Ventnor for lunch and watch them on ZigZag, or go to Shanklin and watch them on Cowleaze (only a cat 2 but most would say it’s the toughest climb on the island due to the length)
Ice cream is in Ventnor (Crave). Includes vegan options. 5* on Trip Advisor, usually 10-15 flavours. We go there at least twice every holiday, even though we don’t stay in Ventnor. And if vegan is your thing you have to try Tansy’s Pantry in Godshill, if I could eat there every day they might just convert this committed carnivore.
There are good small pubs in virtually every village down south/west. Three Bishops at Brightstone is good for beer but not sure on bike parking. You’d see the race twice there, both times at speed though. Drink Goddards if you can find it, local ale with plenty of seasonal options.
White Mouse at Chale has a massive beer garden with stunning views but average beer. They do decent no nonsense pub food (ribs good), and are geared up for large groups. You’ll be able to see the race for about a mile from the terrace there (and see it twice if you ride up to the junction between Chale Green and Billingham – the race takes a sharp right hander there after what I think is a steep and narrow descent)
Niton Down on the run from Ventnor to Blackgang might be a good spectating spot, once again stunning views and you might see attacks there. If you like watching demon descending the drop off Niton down to Blackgang is steep and winding and goes through a really nasty roundabout (crap surface and camber) outside the amusement park.
Looking at the map I think you could potentially do three locations
Brading Down
Godshill
Niton Down/Blackgang/Chale
Godshill to Niton is only a 4 mile ride during which time the peloton will be slogging up Cowleaze & ZigZag so you’d have loads of time to get there, even with road closures.
kil0ran
Shouldn’t have any effect,
Shouldn’t have any effect, certainly won’t slow you down and the increased comfort may make you faster on longer rides due to less fatigue. You might also find it evens out the tyre wear front to rear.
This did get me thinking of mullet MTBs running 29″ up front and 27.5″ rear.
kil0ran
Just a bit of info on road
Just a bit of info on road closures. Most are the usual rolliing roadblock except for the start area (closed until 3pm) and the Military Road from Chale all the way to The Needles. That’s closed from 1pm until 3pm – https://www.iow.gov.uk/Council/OtherServices/Tour-of-Britain/Route/
So, if you’re going to watch them early in the day (e.g. at Brading Down) you’ll likely need to go across the middle of the island to get to The Needles. It’s a 26 mile ride though so you’d better get your head down.
For those trying to avoid the Military Road closures the B3389 through Brightstone & Mottistone is your friend. If you’ve got tyre clearance head off that road just before Shalcombe and go over Brook Down to the Freshwater Golf Course.
If the road from Freshwater to the Needles is closed when you get there there’s always the option of heading over Tennyson Down and approaching the finish area from the rear. That’s steep but rideable, just watch out for rabbit holes!
kil0ran
In which case Brading and
In which case Brading and Cowleaze makes most sense. If you do choose to cycle to the Needles stay off the “middle” road, it’ll be a fast rat run for locals avoiding road blockskil0ran
As a fellow ’70s child (born
As a fellow ’70s child (born 1970) my memories are similar. We didn’t have central heating until the mid-80s so all hot water came from either the back boiler (log fire in living room) or immersion heater. Couple of baths a week, basin wash the rest of the time. Pyjamas, hat, and hot water bottle, with heated blanket if it was really cold. Clothes washing once a week too, in a massive twin tub. Took Mum all day. Only one room was heated in the winter, unless we had guests and popped the gas fire on in the “dining” room. No heating upstairs.
Dad was a first a docker and then a lorry driver, we weren’t exactly poor when he was working although did go through a phase early 80s where they were on strike a lot (Maggie trying and succeeding in abolishing the NDLB). In those years there were no holidays and we didn’t have a car for a while either.
Definitely freer to play although conscious that (a) I was male and (b) didn’t look like I should be messed with. Also the base level of violence from the local scrotes was lower than it is today. I lived on the edge of a big council estate and whilst there were places you didn’t go alone – particularly if you had a nice bike like I did – I had pretty much free rein. And a lot of mates too, so we were always in and out of each others houses with just a “tea is at half 4 if you want some” return home order.
There’s certainly aspects of that upbringing I wish my son had the ability to experience – certainly less tech and more outside opportunities and more solo exploring – but living in a draughty Georgian house I’m not looking forward to having the CH switched off this winter. I don’t really need to do that – we have a fix until August 2024 – but definitely want to set the habit for when that fix expires or my supplier goes bust.
August 26, 2022 at 10:15 pm in reply to: Bike fit question: does exposed seat post length matter? #996655kil0ran
That could explain it, I’ll
That could explain it, I’ll check with them. Diagrams on the site suggest it’s a C-T measurement but that might not be the case.
August 25, 2022 at 11:20 pm in reply to: Suggestions for older frames that can take wider tyres . . . #996673kil0ran
Anything rim braked over 28mm
Anything rim braked over 28mm will need long drop brakes or cantis. There are loads of the latter about but they’ll either be tourers or CX bikes which won’t have a position anything like your Supersix. Depends how fast you want it to be on the road and how long you intend to ride for.
Disc brakes open up lots of options.
Spesh Diverge
Giant Defy Advanced (great carbon frame, cheap secondhand), I’ve got 28mm GP4000s on mine on wide rims so they’re probably nearer 30mm.
Trek Domane disc takes 30s (not sure from which year though)
Giant Revolt is more gravelly than the Defy
I had a Merida Cyclo-cross for a while which worked well for most things, even did Ride London on it
Fairlight Strael goes up to 32 I think, so do some of the Mason bikes. Condor Fratello is another.kil0ran
If you’re driving bear in
If you’re driving bear in mind the roads through the middle are narrow with crap sight lines and limited passing places. Very limited off road parking, I’ll be driving to Lymington and watching them in Yarmouth and at the finish.
There are also opportunities to see them twice around Brightstone but they’ll be at speed on both occasions. If anyone is thinking of camping try Grange Farm at Brightstone, the race will go right by the camp site on the final drag back to Freshwaterkil0ran
Depends if you’re riding or
Depends if you’re riding or driving.
Two options.Brading Down and Cowleaze Hill very doable as you’ve got about two hours to get between them. If not Cowleaze then head further on to Ventnor, get an ice cream at Crave and then watch them struggle up ZigZag – 20% section and really crap road surface.
Option 2 is to get ferry from Lymington to Yarmouth in time for the sprint and then ride over to the finish. If you don’t go right to the top of the finish the best place to watch is outside the gift shop at the bottom of the hill, fast left hander into a speedbump and 200m @ 15%
If you can only get to one viewing point Afton Down will be incredible if the weather’s good. With a decent set of binoculars you’ll be able to see them coming towards you for a couple of miles. Go up on the golf course unless you’re desperate to get close to the riders, there’s more room and it’s a better vantage point
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