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IanEdward
Are you sure it’s the same
Are you sure it’s the same reach and stack?
Reach in particular, the frame reach might be the same, but is the stem length the same? What about the reach of the handlebars (e.g. the distance between the horizontal section of bar and the hoods). I’ve even heard that Campag hoods are 1cm longer than Shimano, have you changed groupsets?
Maybe the hoods are rotated further forward, which would increase reach?
I ask as I was having shoulder and neck issues, they were partly related to stack and reach, i.e. I was reaching forward and down too much meaning I had to raise my head further, but they were also related to distance, as I’ve gradually increased the length of my rides the neck pain has gradually subsided, I guess as the muscles get stronger.
Massage can help, I’ve had two recently focussing on shoulders and it’s definitely loosened them up.
IanEdward
Sigma Sport sell a useful
Sigma Sport sell a useful range of shims etc, but I also have a spare (used) set I would happily pass on for a small fee.
Edit: these https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Specialized/BG-Cleat-Wedge-for-Look-KEO-Pack-of-8/RU4
I solved my foot pain issues by moving cleats outwards, i.e. moving shoes inwards. I think I was suffering from what one of the pro-fitters calls ‘waterfalling’ i.e. the outside of my foot effectively overhanging the outside of the pedal platform and being subjected to additional pressure. It’s surprising how quickly it would come back if I reset the cleats to the old ‘inboard’ position.
IanEdward
Jack Osbourne snr wrote:You just need to live with it.
Booo, that’s a shame, the squeel bothers me so much I’ve found myself instinctively letting go of the levers or just avoiding braking altogether! Must have sensitive ear drums.
Will stick with rim brakes I guess, shame so few frames can take them these days…
IanEdward
Hmm, I’m coming round to your
Hmm, I’m coming round to your first point, but there are plenty out there who claim theor disc brakes are quiet in the wet so I’m just trying to figure out what the common factor is.As for the dodgy physics someone has been feeding you, you really think your rotor goes from ambient temperature to 100C so fast that the water flashes straight to steam between the pads? How fast are you going?? ; )
IanEdward
Jack Osbourne snr wrote:I have Spyres on my primary commuter and use Disco Brakes sintered pads.I ride 14 miles per day from one side of Glasgow to the other all year round…
How are they for noise (when wet)? What rotors do you use?
Sorry to repeat my question from above, just looking for as many opinions as possible before I spend any more money trying to stop mine squeeling in the wet.
Ta.
IanEdward
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I fitted Swissstop green pads to my Spyres from newHow do they behave in the wet, quiet? What rotors do you use?
Am considering replacing pads and rotors on my Spyres, they’re great in the dry but screech like banshees in the wet.
IanEdward
Actually, 46 cobbled hairpins
Actually, 46 cobbled hairpins with views over the Bay of Naples?
It’d be criminal not to!

IanEdward
Have you seen the climb up to
Have you seen the climb up to Villaggio Monte Faito? 46 hairpins by my count, descent down the other side looks good also…That being said, do you hike? I did a day hike starting and finishing on the steps above Furore, up onto the mountain ridge, and back down to Bomerano and home via the Santieri degli Dei. Finished up watching a thunder and lightening storm and two tornadoes out at sea! Brilliant (long) day..
Edit: It’s a bit obvious but I did regret not riding up and down Vesuvius, but that road looks like it takes no prisoners! Early AM looks like the best time for it…
IanEdward
Another past suffered here. I
Another past suffered here. I was always able to keep it under control and had actually put it down to the sticky clutch on the car!
However I attended a Retul bike fit in Edinburgh (Dougie @ Edinburgh Bicycle Fitters) for a sore right knee, and after half an hour he concluded there was nothing wrong with the bike but that I was a twisted, hunched mess!
My particular issue was because of a twisted pelvis which effectively placed my right hip behind my left when pedalling. This in turn made my right leg functionally shorter which meant I was always pedalling with the left IT band in tension.
Basically doing all the stuff madcarew mentions has started to straighten me out, and also just focussing on pushing my right hip forward when pedalling (obviously you tend to forget or lose concentration, hence strengthening exercises to make it ‘automatic’).
I had wasted a lot of time and money on orthotics, physio, shoes, pedals etc. all of which I could have avoided if I’d gone for the bike fit instead.
disclaimer: all bike fitters are not created equal unfortunately, check reviews etc.
February 21, 2018 at 7:34 pm in reply to: Indulge me + any other luddites – What ‘gravel’ frameset with rim brakes? #912739IanEdward
Boom! Right there, my perfect
Boom! Right there, my perfect bike

I daren’t ask the cost, if you have to ask you can’t afford it!
February 21, 2018 at 11:14 am in reply to: Indulge me + any other luddites – What ‘gravel’ frameset with rim brakes? #912733IanEdward
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If you do a lot of riding in crap weatherAt the risk of derailling the thread and turning it into my stock disc brake rant, it’s actually in crap weather that I value my rim brakes the most!
I’ve been through 2 bikes and 3 different sets of brakes, all of which sounded god-awful in the wet, which just put me off riding those bikes in crap conditions. Whether that was specific to me or not I don’t know, but I’ve decided I’ve now spent too much time and money trying to find a reasonably quiet set of disc brakes, and have given up.
People keep telling me it’s a set up thing, or a pad choice thing, or a contamination thing, or a bedding in thing, but my rim brakes suffer from none of this, all for the cost of a £20 set of decent pads. The local shops have struggled to sort it, and one mechanic even admitted he spent 50% of his time now trying to help people silence noisy disc brakes.
I would LOVE to be converted to discs, but until someone can promise me a set that doesn’t seem to require a degree in Voodoo Witch-doctory to run quiet in all conditions, I’ll stick with rim brakes.
Anyway, rant over, I like rim brakes, frames still exist for them, happy days : )
February 21, 2018 at 9:11 am in reply to: Indulge me + any other luddites – What ‘gravel’ frameset with rim brakes? #912729IanEdward
Yeah I’ve been banging the
Yeah I’ve been banging the drum for rim brakes for a while, and also hope there will be a bit of a comeback. I’m guessing their ubiquity at the moment is partly ‘shiny new’ and part ‘easier for the frame manufacturers’.
I struggle to believe I’m the only person for whom the drawbacks outweight the benefits. I heard two people on this morning’s commute whose brakes sounded AWFUL, can’t believe that’s worth the little bit of extra power, makes me wonder if lots of people have only ever experienced cheap rim brakes with cheap pads, and are therefore blown away by brakes that actually work.
Still, there’s still options out there, although the Seven is taking the p155 a little at £2,550 for a Steel frame only with no fork. Think the Van Nicholas is the cake and eat it option (light but versatile) and the Cross Check is the pragmatic solution (cheap, heavy, but versatile). I suppose the third option is just bodging a six speed cassette in the back of my current singlespeed, would probably end up lighter than a Cross Check build but with slightly less range on the gearing.
February 20, 2018 at 8:08 pm in reply to: Indulge me + any other luddites – What ‘gravel’ frameset with rim brakes? #912723IanEdward
Oh man, that Redsky is
Oh man, that Redsky is perfect! Just a shame it costs twice what the Van Nicholas Amazon, and for the money you don’t even get a fork… Lovely though.
February 20, 2018 at 7:40 pm in reply to: Indulge me + any other luddites – What ‘gravel’ frameset with rim brakes? #912719IanEdward
Hmm, now I’m confused! Love
Hmm, now I’m confused! Love the idea of the Cross Check, and it’s half the price of the other options. Shame they’re not doing the dream tangerine colour any more!
But if I’m looking at bikes that weight I’m probably straying back into touring territory again…
February 19, 2018 at 7:49 pm in reply to: Indulge me + any other luddites – What ‘gravel’ frameset with rim brakes? #912709IanEdward
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Something up with your discs?More like something up with my ears, think I’ve just got a much lower tolerance to squeeky brakes than everyone else. Rim brakes = silent and all the power I’ve ever needed, I don’t even seem to go through pads or rims all that fast.
Obviously just not riding far enough or fast enough!
SimonE, thanks I contributed to that thread but Kil0ran wasn’t thinking big enough, he only wanted 28mm tyres!
BTWin 100Ha, that’s genius, would never have found that. Strip the components and the scaffold tube fork, replace with a carbon/alloy Radon fork for £80 and build up with your groupset of choice, could be a neat wee bike for less than a thousand…
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