[Cugel]

A number of ubermen hereabouts like to dismiss the notion that one day, if allowed by the patriarchy, a woman might win high level open races against all including the men. Women are dismissed as inherently weaker beings who should be confined to the ghetto of badly (if at all) supported races for women only.

Ha!

Here’s an interesting little story from another cycling website.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/fitness/indoor-cycling/real-world-success-top-ranked-zwifter-crushes-first-real-bike-races

Note the various data values involved.

A quote from the article:

After cordially warning her competitors that it was the first time she would ride in a group, she rode away, winning by almost five minutes over the hill climb series leader, Sonya Bodick. Her 5.24 wkg average for 22:52 earned her another QOM, a course record, and the victory – and even one position before her coach Josh Lipka.

The recently crowned Men’s Masters 35-39 Open US National Time Trial Champion put out 4.83 wkg and averaged 425 W to hold Kristen’s wheel and, when asked about it, could muster no more than an, “It was awful!”

Gawd – the ubermen must be feeling all trembly at the knees! 🙂

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[mark1a]

“Next up Brian, the

“Next up Brian, the qualifiers from this heats round will be removing and refitting a rear Schwalbe Racer on a 6 speed Brompton with mudguards at the roadside in the rain. I don’t know where this is going to go. There could be tears before we get to the medals. Remember the call of shame home is instant DQ.”

#beenthere

[Anonymous]

Different subject, though
Different subject, though maybe not unrelated.

[David9694]

Now, this is a new event in

Now, this is a new event in the Olympic calendar so Brian, talk us through the rules.

OK Steve, well obviously the winner of this contest is the first competitor to fit a pair of Schwalbe Marathon tyres to the judges’ satisfaction.  Marathons come in a wide range of sizes, as do the wheels they are fitted to. The competitor supplies the wheels, which must be Mavic made that he or she wishes to compete with, but the judges issue the inner tubes and crucially the matching tyres.  

Sounds simple enough Brian but there’s a few technical catches here aren’t there? 

Yes, Steve, this is where the ETRO sizing is a major factor.  The rules are that the Tyre and tube must be the same diameter and the width within the Sheldon Brown rules  –  that’s the first number in the ETRO rating  – as the competitor’s chosen wheelset.  Competitors can choose the width of tyres they work with and bear in mind too that they will receive the relevant inter tube – that can all make a difference.  

And what are the judges looking for in a completed fitting?

When a competitor declares their wheels finished, there is a 90 second inspection of their work. The tyre must be pumped-up to the highest pressure in its specification and it must hold that pressure throughout. Any bulges of inner tube or punctured tubes a the wheel will be disallowed. 

And the tools they are allowed to work with, Brian?

The judges issue 3 tyre levers – there’s Park, Schwalbe, traditional metal, Decathlon types to choose from. Each type has its pro and cons. It’s a test of competitors’ strength but also their skill and dexterity. 

Thanks for that, and let’s cross now to the arena, and join Kirsty who’s in what looks like a suburban garage. Kirsty.

Thanks Steve, that’s right, this is an upscale authentic replica of the garage of no 32 Acacia Avenue where this competition has its roots.  The competitors are lining up now, let’s take a look at that leaderboard. 

[chrisonabike]

Glad someone wasn’t paying

Glad someone wasn’t paying attention!

[chrisonabike]

26″?  There will be injuries.

26″?  There will be injuries…

[David9694]

there’s only one way to

there’s only one way to settle this 

[David9694]

Was that a Cugel pastiche?

Was that a Cugel pastiche? Sorry, I drifted off a bit there. 

[Anonymous]

Ultra distance ist the only

Ultra distance ist the only place where mental resistance, tolerance to sleep deprivation and such like can be more important than physical ability, and thus  the best women can beat the best men.

[Dnnnnnn]

Paul J wrote:

Paul J wrote:

what your point is exactly is hard to discern

I think he likes it that way.

[Paul J]

A top level (99th percentile
A top level (99th percentile say) trained woman will beat the majority of men (i.e., general population, inc. couch potatos). She in turn will be beaten easily by many far-from-top-level, well trained men; and absolutely nowhere compared to high-level, well trained men (see screenshot of KOM v QOM times below). The *average man* will beat _nearly all_ women. The average well-trained man will beat well-trained women who are much higher percentile in the women’s field.

If you don’t understand this, then you do not understand population distributions, and you shouldn’t really be on here trying to make a point.

Though, what your point is exactly is hard to discern. I suspect it isn’t about women though, but more about not-that-good men who wish to compete with women.

[LookAhead]

Her standout performance also

Lots of women are better than lots of men, including me.

But whatever is your point?

the linked article wrote:

Her standout performance also earned her the hotly contested Strava QOM by close to three minutes over Canadian Myriam Paquet, a fierce climber in her own right.

And here is that QOM with a little more context:

[jaymack]

Ubermensch is the term coined
Fiona Kolbinger won the Transcontinental race beating the field male & female. Ubermensch is the term coined by Neitzsche as humanity’s goal or ideal.

[Dnnnnnn]

brooksby wrote:

brooksby wrote:

The Daily Planet centralised their newsroom, and Clark Kent lost his job.

Even had to go South of the River. Harsh.

[chrisonabike]

The Quidditch Quadball

The Quidditch Quadball champions of the future?

Aside from brave new ideas (which might not be so new) … where physical speed, power or strength are less central there’s lots of space for discovery.  There are also some more “physical” disciplines which are contested more evenly between sexes.  For one there seem to be some extreme endurance events which regularly feature women beating men at the top level (ultrarunning, the Transcontinental etc.)

[JLasTSR]

I think it shows one thing
I think it shows one thing that is possibly true for a lot of slightly less than mainstream sports. The people with the very best potential in the world may have never tried that sport at any level. It may be that it is only with the advent of new technologies and training that we will start to see people try out a sport and then emerge and come from nowhere so to speak. Quote exciting really.

[Author]

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