[Cycloid]

A couple of other threads on the Forum are talking about road rage incidents. I am asking the fundamental question – Why Road Rage?

A popular psychology book from the local library gives some insights.

Outgroups – an outgroup is a group of people to which you do not belong. People tend to make generalisations which they then apply to the group as a whole, for example, (All) Muslims are terrorists, wfe beaters, etc (Not True). Cyclists are reckless, law breakers and they ride through red lights. Vegetarians are an outgroup (Thanks Ian Walker) but nobody really hates them, though they are a pain when they come round for dinner. So there must be other factors.

Free Riders – Altruistic punishment – This is probably best explained by an example. You go to watch a cricket match. The match has just started, it’s a lovely sunny day and you are sitting down with a pack of sandwiches and a can of beer when a guy climbs over the fence and sits next to you. It should not be a problem, he’s done nothing to detract from your experience, but many people would get a steward to eject the wrongdoer. This is altruistsic punishment, in order to get your version of justice done you have missed a bit of the match.

Cyclists don’t pay Road Tax (OK it’s VED), have no training, don’t have to take a test or hold a license. They have no insurance. They don’t have to buy expensive highly taxed (79% tax) fuel. They don’t pay for parking but they cause congestion.

Cyclists Ignore the Highway Code, Redlights, Oneway streets, Footpaths, Etc… They are inconsiderate, Ride in the middle of the road, two abreast, cause delays. They jump queues, are inconsiderate and aggressive.

However, Cyclists are Fitter, Healthier and place Fewer demands on the NHS. They Don’t pollute, Use fewer resources .They take up less road space, and Don’t damage the roads. More reasons to hate them. They are a load of Smug, Sanctimonious bastards.

Every group or society has it’s laws, rules, traditions and manners and people who do not conform are punished.

From (some) motorists viewpoint – Cyclists don’t pay or contribute to use the infrastructure, they abuse the privilege and break the laws – They should be punished for the good of society.

 

 

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[Gary's bike channel]

i cycle 40-100 miles a week.

i cycle 40-100 miles a week. i also own a suzuki sv650 and husqvarna wre 125 2 stroke enduro bike. i used to also own a kawasaki er5 and a lexmoto adrenaline 125 but sold the last two. I drive my partners car if i need to, which recently was handy for buying wood for projects. However i wouldnt say i enjoy driving as much as i do cycling. you have to think so hard to concentrate properly, judging gaps is way harder too. im struggling a lot to judge where the front of the car is in relation to parked vehicles, and finding the ;;A” pillar irritating. obviously my perception is off due to mostly being on two wheels. 

[hawkinspeter]

Lynch considered the film to
Lynch considered the film to be his only failure and didn’t want much more to do with it.

I think I got as far as Children of Dune and got bored with the series but that was a long time ago. I did re-watch the film last year and it’s quite bad really and would be difficult to follow without knowing the book. I didn’t remember it being that cheesy.

[Gary's bike channel]

how odd. perhaps they should

how odd. perhaps they should have told the drivers to get out their way as they were holding everybody up. 

[brooksby]

Original trilogy are good;

Original trilogy are good; God Emperor is OK; I truly hated everything after that… And don’t get me started on all those prequel novels!
 

(I hope the new film is good- I really want it to be! – and I want ornithopters which flap! None of that fixed wing heresy…)

[ktache]

I always wondered why the

I always wondered why the very weird Lynchian version was never released on multiple director’s cut.

I read all of the books during my first period of unemployment, from the library.  I thought they went downhill a bit after the first few.

[zeeridesbikes]

Wow some great responses

Wow some great responses thanks! I haven’t commuted by car for years as I use my bike but I imagine having to do it everyday also has an effect on your driving outlook it triggers a significant amount of stress.

[hawkinspeter]

brooksby wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Imma leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xhJrPXop4

Can’t wait 😀

I heard that Christian Bale put on an unbelievable amount of weight to play the sand-worm.

[brooksby]

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Imma leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xhJrPXop4

Can’t wait 😀

[kil0ran]

I absolutely love letting

I absolutely love letting drivers filter in from slip roads, flashing them out of side roads etc. The Volvo doesn’t go anywhere fast, and if you try to make it do it you’re basically the KLF on Jura. 

Also, because by modern standards the brakes are like the mini-v’s fitted to BSOs, I drive everywhere with a huge stopping distance, certainly more than the 2 second rule.

Oddly, because it’s an (almost classic) Volvo people don’t seem to mind. I think they still seem them as being made of blocks of granite and thus likely to make their plastic noddy car just fall apart by looking at it.

[David9694]

When does the ban on H8

When does the ban on H8 number plates come in?

[Hirsute]

The peds and cyclists didn’t

The peds and cyclists didn’t have much trouble getting about in that video!

[OldRidgeback]

I avoided owning a car until

I avoided owning a car until I had kids about 20 years ago. Before that I had two motorbikes and two bicycles. I still avoid using the car for local journeys in London if at all possible. When I was still commuting for work, it’d either be by motobike or bicycle and train. Anyone who drives in London regularly will be immensely frustrated as the congestion is horrendous. I know plenty of people who use a car to drive short journeys when they have alternatives and I think they are nuts. I cannot understand why anyone would subject themselves to such an unpleasant experience, but so many people are too lazy and/or scared to switch to two wheels instead, despite the fact that the exercise would do them good. I keep telling people that the BMA says the benefits of cycling outweigh the risks by a factor of 20:1.

[hawkinspeter]

brooksby wrote:

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Imma leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xhJrPXop4

[brooksby]

“I must not fear. Fear is the

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

[brooksby]

HoarseMann wrote:

I think modern cars are so good at isolating you from the elements, that whilst they’re comfortable, they’re also less engaging to drive.

If I had a classic sports car then it might be a bit different.

The advantage of a classic is that you can’t forget that you are driving a ton of steel on wheels with a tank full of flammable fluid and an internal combustion engine that works by (more or less) controlled explosions.  Requires you to pay more attention to the act of driving. Which you should be doing anyway..l

Frim my experience, you don’t feel like you’re sitting in your front room watching the world go by outside your windows.

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