[wtjs]

Start the New Year with a New Career! Join Lancashire TacOps’ OpSnap Lancs (HQ Operations, Safer Roads unit) ace image analysts, but first we have to see if you’re up to the job. Study the following image carefully and declare your opinion on this statement:

it cannot be accurately established at what phase the traffic lights are at as the front wheels hit the stop line

True(T) or False(F)?

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[AlsoSomniloquism]

It’s difficult to read

It’s difficult to read rubbish like this without laughing.

Pretty much my response when I see your E-Bike rants. 

I understand you can’t upload videos, however as shown further down you  have posted links to external locations hosting said videos. Just don’t get angry that people are stating a still image can’t be used to show anything that you claim (even though we all believe you when you state what it would have shown as a video). 

This video does show multiple cars deciding that red lights are not for them and also then catches that the light wasn’t stuck on red. (I think the first two were looking for the changing of the other directions lights and not their own and didn’t take into account the crossing light was going to come on. The rest just lemming through like on some of your videos).

Anyway, best of luck with your constant battles for Dangerous driving convictions with LP. I do admire you for that.  

 

[wtjs]

I know the Met won’t

I know the Met won’t prosecute a red light run unless it’s clearly three seconds after the lights turn red

No, I think it’s my point that remains.

[Rendel Harris]

You’re strangely aggressive

You’re strangely aggressive in all this old chap, pehaps you need a nice relaxing ebike ride to chill out? Neither of those cases were tested in court, one was accepted without a court case and the other was guilty in absentia, so my point that a good lawyer could introduce sufficient doubt remains. As for saying that the Met are lying, I can only say what I heard directly from an officer, as for Cycling Mikey it was actually on one of his Twitter posts that I first heard that a substantial gap was required between red and crossing for prosecution. Furthermore in neither of the videos you’ve linked was there a 0.3 second gap between red and crossing which is what you’re complaining about in your own example.

[wtjs]

Wouldn’t it have been so much

Wouldn’t it have been so much better if LCC had explained the situation to wtjs as clearly as you. The problem, in a nutshell then, is that a good lawyer can get a motorist off almost any traffic offence in court

Not always, unless Rendel claims that CyclingMikey or the Met is lying!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8zegSOp2s4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdw1SSnejmM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkT69jiCJCo

[Mungecrundle]

The Toyota could be doing
The Toyota could be doing 100mph about to crash the red light, 3 mph and about to stop at the light, or has already stopped short of the line. You have the benefit of being a first hand witness to what occured, it may be obvious to you but to the rest of us, all we have is a frozen in the moment image. I’m beginning to understand why Lancs Police might have you tagged as a serial nuisance complainer if this is what you consider incontravertable evidence.

Maybe it would help to switch seats as it were. Can you tell from the photo alone (shown below) whether the car in front is braking gently to stop at the red light, about to jump the lights or is brake checking the following vehicle in a crash for cash scam attempt?

[wtjs]

You have posted single images

You have posted single images (every time you post something it is a single image) and then telling us we can’t interpret the video properly

It’s difficult to read rubbish like this without laughing. The only files which can be posted at will on this site are png gif jpg jpeg. YouTube is indeed the place for video and I am working up to my channel Bad Cops: The Preston Connection. The people who actually post images here, which are purely for entertainment and information and not for proof, will already be aware that these are still image formats. I can see why the site doesn’t allow random video images, because topics would soon be filled with rubbish, and they don’t have the resources of YouTube to cope with that. What they could do is allow people to upload and download .pdfs which could include a succession of images- I’m already making those for my own record purposes, although I don’t send them to Lancashire police any more. They demand pure video without any overlay, and that’s what they get

What I’m telling several people on here is that they can’t even interpret the still images which I selected and cropped to make it easier for them. Anybody who is any good will be able to see why even the 3 video stills I presented are proof of the red light offence- clue: it’s the white vehicles. However, for the hard-of-seeing, here’s an easier one. This is Toyota IQ ML58 YFK about to go through on red

[Oldfatgit]

Three videos that are
Comment withdrawn.

Can’t be bothered to waste any further oxygen

[wtjs]

In response to a letter from

In response to a letter from Ben Wallace MP last year, Lancashire Constabulary undertook to do better on red light offences. The ‘doing better’ consisted of ignoring several bad ones which I have posted on here, and the failure of Sgt. Lavin of OpSnap Lancs to reply to my detailed query on these offences convinces me of this. I then write to Ben Wallace again, asking whether he can do anything other than relay the pathetic Lancashire Constabulary lies back to me- when he says ‘essentially, no’ I then set up the channel on the grounds that I have no alternative

[Rendel Harris]

I’m not condoning it in the

I’m not condoning it in the slightest, I think it’s ridiculous, I’m just saying that’s the way it is with the Met. I can’t show you evidence I’m afraid as I was told this in the course of a telephone call with a Met officer whom I specifically asked why they weren’t prosecuting what I regarded as a “slam dunk” red light jumper.

[Flintshire Boy]

Looking forward to ‘The

Looking forward to ‘The Preston Connection’ – when do you expect to have it up and running?

(PS – come on you Lillywhites!!!)

[wtjs]

I know the Met won’t

I know the Met won’t prosecute a red light run unless it’s clearly three seconds after the lights turn red

Well, we’ll have to disagree on this! Let’s see your evidence for this assertion- 3 seconds is a really long time at traffic lights. Even if it were true, we shouldn’t be condoning dangerous lawbreaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y28Fjp9ardU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd4Ok0uDPpU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLf8LWoYM78

[Bungle_52]

Wouldn’t it have been so much

Wouldn’t it have been so much better if LCC had explained the situation to wtjs as clearly as you. The problem, in a nutshell then, is that a good lawyer can get a motorist off almost any traffic offence in court.

[Rendel Harris]

ktache wrote:

It’s almost as though there was no amber light to act as a warning to the upcoming red…

Indeed – not saying it’s right but amber means stop if safe to do so, something that can be argued as a matter of personal opinion, and running an amber is not (as far as I know) a prosecutable offence unless it can be proved to be dangerous/careless driving, e.g. accelerating hard to make the amber. So we are left with a misjudgment of a third of a second on which to build a case, no prosecutor working on “reasonable possibility of conviction” would take this on.

[ktache]

It’s almost as though there

It’s almost as though there was no amber light to act as a warning to the upcoming red…

[Rendel Harris]

wtjs wrote:

wtjs wrote:

This is Jaguar XK-something EW14 VJW crossing the stop line about 1/3 of a second after the lights turned red and 3 1/3 seconds after they turned amber.

I know the Met won’t prosecute a red light run unless it’s clearly three seconds after the lights turn red, there’s just too much extenuating circumstance wriggle room for lawyers with anything closer. It shouldn’t be like that but that’s the way it is. A prosecution for running a red by a third of a second would be almost doomed to fail I’m afraid if challenged by any halfway competent lawyer. 

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