[Secret_squirrel]

Friendly warning.  Ashley Neal’s gone full on troll (if he wasnt already).  If you havent seen his latest piece of them and us trash I’d block him before your blood pressure goes up like mine.

Do a favour and dont link it on here. (though Im sure it will be on the live blog soon).

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[chrisonabike]

Now – should they have

Now – should they have spotted the earlier light was red?  Yes, yes they should.  Here’s the view from further back.  The left-hand light on the right side (yes…) governs the “ahead” direction and that should have been red.  (Note the separate light right next to it on its right is for the separate right lane).

So they’ve gone through a red light.  That could have been deliberate, or maybe they missed it, or got confused in what is a real mess currently (we’re not certain how well it’ll get fixed either).

However once passed it you only see green lights covering the left two lanes (albeit an arrow pointing left… which those unfamiliar with this might see as the Broughton Street direction…)

Then you’ve the massive planter (presumably to protect pedestrians from the cyclists motor vehicles), all the road works clutter AND it’s usually busy with lots of pedestrians (waiting to cross the roads).  So deffo “poor visibility”.

Again – on the flip side there’s one point where the cyclist appears to be pointing directly at the car – so should have seen them. Unfortunately at exactly that point they’ve just crossed the tram tracks and are being diverted by the white guide lines in an “S” curve so they’re likely focussing on that.

[chrisonabike]

I’ll give him the benefit of

I’ll give him the benefit of a look though not a link.

Ooh – my city.  Right let’s see… oh, not a good example, it’s the Picardy Place rebuilding… this area is a total mess.  The video certainly shows how hard it is to see properly here.  Let’s just take a look at the specifics here before the general point.

For those who do go look, it’s a bit hard to see but if you watch a few times you’ll see the cyclist follow an odd swerving course, before “hiding” close behind the big planter.  Why on earth would you do this?  Well… to try to mitigate “we put in tram tracks and cyclists have died crossing them at shallow angles, just like everyone told you Edinburgh Council.”

Here’s the junction with these highlighted.  Note you are guided from right, over tracks then swing to left to line you up to go down Broughton Street ahead.  Note also the lights – particularly the one on the right.  Is it crystal clear that those in the left two lanes should only turn left and not proceed straight at this point?

[chrisonabike]

Here’s the cyclist, dutifully

Here’s the cyclist, dutifully following the lines…

[Flintshire Boy]

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So your saying it’s fine to go through red lights, yeah?

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[HoarseMann]

Well, I won’t link to his

Well, I won’t link to his video, but I’m going to do the analysis he missed: I think this cyclist rode through the red by mistake.

If you watch how they ride, they are diligently following the zig-zag cycle lane markings to get over the tram tracks. That is not the behaviour of a reckless light jumper, they would have taken the straight-line over the junction.

Then if you look at the light sequence on street view, it’s not that clear. Normally, when you have green lights either side of a junction, it means you can proceed. Also, you normally have red lights both sides of a road when you should stop.

When the left green arrow comes on, you might think to follow the cycle path that goes initially to the left. Confusingly, when it’s clear to go ahead, there are just two green arrows on the right and red lights both sides.

[jaysa]

Eh? If you mean the red light

Eh? If you mean the red light jumper. then the only thing I disagree with is Ash’s comment that drop handlebars aren’t suitable for city work, because the brakes are hard to reach (of course they’re not). 

I don’t hear any ‘us and them’, just a plea to consider what a driver might feel if they injured a cyclist through no fault of their own – and that’s what worries me about superbright car lights – it’s much harder to see cyclists and pedestrians behind the bright lights of the car.

[HoarseMann]

Careless you-tubers give

Careless you-tubers give careful cyclists PTSD?

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