[David9694]

A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don’t quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

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[David9694]

Hot Fuzz vibe. 

Hot Fuzz vibe. 

[wtjs]

According to no context Brits

According to no context Brits, the average driver spends 91 hours a year looking for a parking space

There’s no parking problem up here, but you still see them queing up to take the places closest to the shop at Sainsbury’s, and it’s not infrequent for buses to be blocked on the one-way High Street, because of stupid idle people parking at the structural and immoveable pinch point to save them walking a hundred yards

[Hirsute]

Must have had this before but
Must have had this before but
Man crashes into shop, runs off and is attacked by emu
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/man-crashes-shop-runs-attacked-7380249.amp

According to no context Brits, the average driver spends 91 hours a year looking for a parking space.

[David9694]

I do wonder about the Green

I do wonder about the Green Party some times. 

So back in June, the core part of County Hall Worcester was closed down due to a combination of Legionella and RAAC. I guess as the Govt is launching another re-org it may well be the end of the line for this building. 

I imagine if the hospital said “hey folks we’ve got this lovely new car park for you”, the reaction would be “you expect us to walk 10 minutes? LOL. Through a wood? Double LOL.”  I don’t know the local situation but my guess problems on the M5 are a big part of why traffic around there locks-up. 

Worcester hospital parking: give County Hall Christmas gift

https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/24810343.worcester-hospital-parking-give-county-hall-christmas-gift/

County Hall closed so let Worcester hospital patients use it

Cllr Cross said: “There has been a significant problem of peak-time congestion on the hospital site for well over a year. City Cllr Katie Collier and I have several times witnessed drivers queueing for over an hour to leave. It is acknowledged that idling vehicles and traffic congestion adversely impact local air quality.

[…] The main cause is people having to drive because bus service and cycling infrastructure here in Worcester are inadequate.”

https://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/24445959.county-hall-closed-let-worcester-hospital-patients-use/

[Spangly Shiny]

To paraphrase Field of Dreams

To paraphrase Field of Dreams, “Build it right and they will come: and use it!”

[Bungle_52]

It’s actually not too bad at

It’s actually not too bad at the moment. I suspect the shared sections will become a nightmare in summer though. It stops before it gets into the town center prefering to link with an existing shared route which ends up at the out of town railway sation. There are drain covers in the cycle path one of which is set pretty deep and even the others are uncomfortable to ride over if you don’t avoid them, not to mention slippy. There is a concrete HT cable marker which is set about 6 inches in from the edge at one point.  Someone will hit it sooner or later.

I still use it in preference to the road. It’s so much more relaxing than that tensed up feeling I get every time a car comes up behind me on the roads. Drivers seem to be getting the hang of giving way to cyclists where instructed to but there are no markings at the two drive ways in the article as well as one of the road junctions so you have to be aware at those.

The first time I went to use it, just after it was completed, the races were on and the cycle path was closed. Forced on to the road with drivers wondering why I wasn’t on the cycle path, they wouldn’t have seen the cycle path closed sign. Next races are on new years day, we’ll see what the score is for that one. The next time I used it a delivery van was parked in one lane of the cycle path at the next house to the one in the article and a car was pulled across the other lane trying to get out. I and the cyclist coming the other way had to stop.

I can certainly see why some cyclists would use the road.

[hawkinspeter]

David9694 wrote:

“No more cars” as in no additional cars, or none at all?  No-one is saying the latter (sadly). 

Pinch-points like this where cars try to concentrate remind us how staggeringly inefficient and space/ resource hungry cars are.  Public transport (bus, boat), with its currently meagre 4 arrivals a day at Trelissick can be stepped-up and the headcount increases rapidly as you go to 6 to 8 etc. Each car brings 2-4 people, each bus 20-40.  The locals would benefit from a more frequent no 493 bus service to Truro.

The NT seems to have the capital to throw at a bigger parking “solution”.  But it could reduce the on-site parking at Trelissick and instead (revenue, of course) lay on a more frequent bus service (your park & ride).  In Dartmouth/Kingswear, there’s a tourist “circuit” by train and boat – there are options to develop something like this between Falmouth and Truro. 

But the NT continues to pursue a largely pro-car policy, flinging money and space at providing ever more parking, neglecting active travel alternatives. A policy that excludes many would-be visitors, and also has no future. 

“No! More cars”

[Hirsute]

“Please take my licence away

“Please take my licence away as I am not capable of driving”.

[David9694]

“No more cars” as in no

“No more cars” as in no additional cars, or none at all?  No-one is saying the latter (sadly). 

Pinch-points like this where cars try to concentrate remind us how staggeringly inefficient and space/ resource hungry cars are.  Public transport (bus, boat), with its currently meagre 4 arrivals a day at Trelissick can be stepped-up and the headcount increases rapidly as you go to 6 to 8 etc. Each car brings 2-4 people, each bus 20-40.  The locals would benefit from a more frequent no 493 bus service to Truro.

The NT seems to have the capital to throw at a bigger parking “solution”.  But it could reduce the on-site parking at Trelissick and instead (revenue, of course) lay on a more frequent bus service (your park & ride).  In Dartmouth/Kingswear, there’s a tourist “circuit” by train and boat – there are options to develop something like this between Falmouth and Truro. 

But the NT continues to pursue a largely pro-car policy, flinging money and space at providing ever more parking, neglecting active travel alternatives. A policy that excludes many would-be visitors, and also has no future. 

[David9694]

brooksby wrote:

If they’ve built a shiny new bidirectional cycle lane and yet more people are seen cycling on the road then something is wrong with the shiny new bidirectional cycle lane…

Is it? If you’re in your “professional” Lycra, slower people, dogs etc on the shiny lane, Carol coming home from Waitrose turning in are just one hazard after another, all of which you’ll be blamed for hitting.  It might be better to mix it on the road. 

Cue – why don’t they use the cycle lane??? A : get out of your metal box for once and find out  

[brooksby]

If they’ve built a shiny new

If they’ve built a shiny new bidirectional cycle lane and yet more people are seen cycling on the road then something is wrong with the shiny new bidirectional cycle lane…

[ktache]

That looks wonderful. What

That looks wonderful. What the residents seem to want is longer dropped kerbs so the radius of turn can be larger, so they can drive it faster. Why might this not be such a great idea…?

[David9694]

Road safety fears as new

Road safety fears as new Cheltenham cycle lane leads to ‘dangerously sharp’ turnings

Residents are calling on Gloucestershire County Council to widen the access from Evesham Road to Goldington House

Carol Tallis is also concerned that the access is not wide enough. She also said that despite the construction of the new cycle lane she sees many cyclists using the road. “What gets me is cyclists who look professional in their lycra.”

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/cheltenham-news/road-safety-fears-new-cheltenham-9813729

So don’t go upsetting Carol in that new Castelli kit, folks. 

[David9694]

Trentham Estate shopper

Trentham Estate shopper ‘stuck on car park for three hours’ demands action

They want a second entrance and exit

“Many visitors were left stranded, with some missing work shifts, others without essential supplies for their children, and several unable to return home to take necessary medication. This situation is not only inconvenient but also poses significant health and safety risks to those affected.”

She added: “I studied environmental science, so when I see stuff like that, I do get angry. It’s just such an unnecessary waste. With big organisations like that I think they have a basic duty of care to look after the environment. Everyone in that car park had their engines running, in stop-start traffic, that went on for three to four hours. The amount of waste is just totally unnecessary.”

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/trentham-estate-shopper-stuck-car-9764948

EDIT 

My guess is the problems arose because the A34 was congested (by cars) – that stretch looks like an alternative if sat-nav says there’s a problem on the M6.  

So where’s this second entrance of yours meant to be then, Genius? How would it improve things if built?  

Trentham Map

[mattw]

This one seems to work the

This one seems to work the other way, and be genuine Nimbyism – Pimlico wanting to keep its passports.

Locals suffer from turbo-carbrain.

One of the key objections was that a pedestrian crossing from the new car park across the road “would make the road dangerous”.

The King Harry Ferry can carry just over 100 cars per hour, which is not exactly a lot. Capacity 34, once every 20 minutes.

The Enterprise Boats Ferry runs 4 times per day each and can carry 100 pedestrian – no cars.

They don’t want to come out of 1932.

The place is in the middle of nowhere, so an instant pivot to “no more cars” is difficult, short of say a park and ride. But they need a pivot to post-1950 instead.

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