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https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/gallery/pictures-show-exactly-how-park-9868196

There’s some interesting changes planned for Park Street – looks to me as though their going to use appropriate design language for the road/pavement

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hawkinspeter wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

chrisonabike wrote:

Haven’t spent much time in Bristol for decades – but back in the day much was pretty gridlocked at least once per day. Has it got better?

Nope

I think it has got better in some locations. For example, Baldwin Street and Victoria Street. Bus gates there have improved conditions greatly for me. I guess I might feel differently if I wanted to drive a car that way 🙂

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[hawkinspeter]

chrisonabike wrote:

chrisonabike wrote:

Haven’t spent much time in Bristol for decades – but back in the day much was pretty gridlocked at least once per day. Has it got better?

Nope

[chrisonabike]

Haven’t spent much time in
Haven’t spent much time in Bristol for decades – but back in the day much was pretty gridlocked at least once per day. Has it got better?

[hawkinspeter]

Controversial £15 million

Controversial £15 million Park Street scheme will ‘gridlock’ Bristol:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/news-opinion/controversial-15-million-park-street-9983746

Another collection of opinions?

[hawkinspeter]

Local ‘nimbyism’ dismissed as

Local ‘nimbyism’ dismissed as consensus is new scheme will ‘increase footfall’

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/news-opinion/local-nimbyism-dismissed-consensus-new-9980133

(Not much to see there – just a collection of opinions)

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Tories blast ‘baffling’ plan

Tories blast ‘baffling’ plan to restrict cars on Park Street:

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/tories-blast-baffling-plan-restrict-cars-park-street/

I expect it is baffling if you’re some kind of Tory carbrain that doesn’t care about people’s health and well-being.

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brooksby wrote:

brooksby wrote:

It just isn’t that sort of a road.

You’re right – it’s more like Cotham Hill and just look how that has been ruined (ruined!) by being closed to through traffic and filled with nice shops and restaurants.

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brooksby wrote:

Its ridiculous, though: I do not for one moment believe that people drive onto Park Street and then park their car outside (or even, near) Woodes to get a coffee or whatever.  And TBH I don’t imagine that very many park outside, or near, any of the shops on Park Street.  It just isn’t that sort of a road.

I’ll miss Woodes if it does indeed vanish, but the idea that motorists kept it going is bizarre. It is surrounded by some major workplaces in easy walking distance: the council, the university, environment agency. Working from home?

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Its ridiculous, though: I do

Its ridiculous, though: I do not for one moment believe that people drive onto Park Street and then park their car outside (or even, near) Woodes to get a coffee or whatever.  And TBH I don’t imagine that very many park outside, or near, any of the shops on Park Street.  It just isn’t that sort of a road.

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Wonder what could ultimately

Wonder what could ultimately be behind that though?

* Strokes chin, looking at the changes in the high street over the last few decades: the continuing growth of motornormativity, online everything, cultural shifts in consumption … then shakes head – no, must be buses or cycling or something. *

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“Businesses say ‘we will

“Businesses say ‘we will leave’ in response to Park Street bus gate

Independent businesses said they will leave Park Street if the proposed scheme goes ahead”

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/businesses-say-we-leave-response-9971490

For Park Street’s oldest business, it is claimed the proposed scheme would be the beginning of the end.  Woodes, a café which opened in 1966 and has remained at 18 Park Street ever since, has seen customers dwindle in recent years but the owner, Rudy, said that residents will suffer.

… He said: “Park Street used to have a bank on it, a Waterstones, had lots of independent clothes shops, furniture shops, lighting shops.

“The high street has changed from quirky, interesting independent shops to coffee shop, coffee shop, coffee shop. It’s gone from being a place good for wandering around to just shops selling the same product.”

Seems like that decline is nothing to do with the CAZ or bus gates and everything to do with there being more coffee shops?

 

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Ah, Park Street – that lovely

Ah, Park Street – that lovely area of artisan merchants and free flowing traffic 

(note the double-parked van facing oncoming traffic and stopped *right next to a parking space)

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slc wrote:

Not Park St, but fairly near, in a region of the city that was essentially given over to heavy traffic infrastructure. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2p542743wo

https://harbourhopes.co.uk/

“It is within easy reach of both the centre of Bristol and the green of Ashton Court by foot or by bike.”

There has been a reasonable route throgh the current mess for peds and bikes, but it has been closed now for months to suit the developers of an adjacent plot. The route (sustrans signs and all) is permitted rather than a public right of way. I want to see if the new plans make the situation worse.

I often come into Bristol along the dual carriageway there as it’s quicker than trying to find my way on the bike paths, but then I’m used to dealing with heavy traffic.

That should be a lovely area if it’s properly developed and they sort out the road mess.

[slc]

Not Park St, but fairly near,

Not Park St, but fairly near, in a region of the city that was essentially given over to heavy traffic infrastructure. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2p542743wo

https://harbourhopes.co.uk/

“It is within easy reach of both the centre of Bristol and the green of Ashton Court by foot or by bike.”

There has been a reasonable route throgh the current mess for peds and bikes, but it has been closed now for months to suit the developers of an adjacent plot. The route (sustrans signs and all) is permitted rather than a public right of way. I want to see if the new plans make the situation worse.

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