[hawkinspeter]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/gallery/pictures-show-exactly-how-park-9868196

There’s some interesting changes planned for Park Street – looks to me as though their going to use appropriate design language for the road/pavement

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[hawkinspeter]

Tory metro mayor candidate

Tory metro mayor candidate slams plans to close Park Street to through-traffic: https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/tory-metro-mayor-candidate-slams-plans-close-park-street-through-traffic/

Steve Smith predicts that if the plans as part of improvements to the number 2 bus route go ahead, they will put jobs at risk by “hammering” the businesses along the road.

Park Street has historically been one of Bristol’s most exclusive shopping districts but in recent years has lost much of its glamour.

Former councillor Smith’s dire predictions are not born out by studies from across the world.

Academic research has proved that “urban regeneration through pedestrianised spaces has shown to increase physical activity levels, reduce car dependency and improve economic activity”.

Evidence also shows that pedestrianisation generally has a positive or neutral effect economically, with shop vacancy rates five times higher on streets with high levels of traffic.

[slc]

Doubtless, which is why I

Doubtless, which is why I avoid the eastern parts of Kingswood.

[slc]

I enjoy the way that  motor

I enjoy the way that  motor traffic reduction opposers (always) claim that their concern is entirely about congestion and air pollution near schools and hospitals. 

I can at least set their mind to rest about motorists driving to and parking on Park Street. Everyone knows that you can’t park on Park Street because there are too many parked cars. Same on Park Row. University road does have the odd space but you have to pay which is clearly unacceptable once you have paid road tax.

[quiff]

slc wrote:

slc wrote:

Everyone knows that you can’t park on Park Street because there are too many parked cars. Same on Park Row. 

Surely the origin of the road names.  

EDIT: should have read chrisonabike’s reply first…

[chrisonabike]

Indeed – and only right

Indeed – and only right outside schools and hospitals, because that’s where it “makes sense” – but measures extending further from these places clearly don’t.

(Do they think children appear like lemmings from hatches just in front of the schools?  Wait – substitute “SUV” for “hatch” and I think they might be on to something…)

Park Street – not bein’ funny but it’s literally the name of the street?!

[chrisonabike]

Just send ’em over here or

Just send ’em over here or here…

[hawkinspeter]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/park-street-businesses-say-15m-9918896

Independent businesses along one of Bristol’s most famous streets, which is subject to a £15 million transformation scheme, say the plans “will have a catastrophic effect” on the street. In January, Bristol City Council announced that Park Street could soon have a bus gate at one end and a bus lane at the other, closing the road to through traffic.

[chrisonabike]

They should get ColdWarSteve

They should get ColdWarSteve in to do ’em.

[ktache]

None of these artists

None of these artists impressions ever show huge tailbacks of massive SUVs nose to tail. Engines running, phones a scrolling. You know, reality…

[hawkinspeter]

Bmblbzzz wrote:

I’ll see your Forbidden Planet and raise it to the Victoria Rooms. Everything from the Park Street – Queens Rd – Park Row junction to there needs reshaping.

See my earlier comment that includes a pic of the changed road in front of the Victoria Rooms.

[Bmblbzzz]

brooksby wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Bmblbzzz wrote:

I think changes there will be genuinely beneficial. I’m not so sure changes on Park St will benefit cycling – though they should reinvigorate the street as a destination.

I agree.

I’ve not found Park St to be that bad for cycling (apart from the uphill bit) – I think where it goes into the Triangle is worse as that has the different lanes that require bold positioning to not get pushed in to the pavement and drivers often don’t know what lane they should use.

That bit at the top is horrible (from the traffic lights at the top of Park Street all along to the bend by Forbidden Planet).

As far as I have been able to tell, motorists are allowed to get in the correct lane (eg. right hand lane for going right and off toward Whiteladies Road, left hand lane for Jacobs Wells Road) ahead of time and to freely move between lanes if they make a mistake, but cyclists are expected to stay far left no matter what 

I’ll see your Forbidden Planet and raise it to the Victoria Rooms. Everything from the Park Street – Queens Rd – Park Row junction to there needs reshaping.

[hawkinspeter]

brooksby wrote:

That bit at the top is horrible (from the traffic lights at the top of Park Street all along to the bend by Forbidden Planet).

As far as I have been able to tell, motorists are allowed to get in the correct lane (eg. right hand lane for going right and off toward Whiteladies Road, left hand lane for Jacobs Wells Road) ahead of time and to freely move between lanes if they make a mistake, but cyclists are expected to stay far left no matter what 

Yeah, I’m usually fairly bold with lane positioning, but I’d often stay to the left at those traffic lights as it’s slower to set off due to the uphill bit. I find it easier to move out after most of the cars have gone past, but you do need to keep a look out for drivers changing lane or overtaking and then trying to turn left.

[brooksby]

hawkinspeter wrote:

Bmblbzzz wrote:

I think changes there will be genuinely beneficial. I’m not so sure changes on Park St will benefit cycling – though they should reinvigorate the street as a destination.

I agree.

I’ve not found Park St to be that bad for cycling (apart from the uphill bit) – I think where it goes into the Triangle is worse as that has the different lanes that require bold positioning to not get pushed in to the pavement and drivers often don’t know what lane they should use.

That bit at the top is horrible (from the traffic lights at the top of Park Street all along to the bend by Forbidden Planet).

As far as I have been able to tell, motorists are allowed to get in the correct lane (eg. right hand lane for going right and off toward Whiteladies Road, left hand lane for Jacobs Wells Road) ahead of time and to freely move between lanes if they make a mistake, but cyclists are expected to stay far left no matter what 

[hawkinspeter]

Bmblbzzz wrote:

I think changes there will be genuinely beneficial. I’m not so sure changes on Park St will benefit cycling – though they should reinvigorate the street as a destination.

I agree.

I’ve not found Park St to be that bad for cycling (apart from the uphill bit) – I think where it goes into the Triangle is worse as that has the different lanes that require bold positioning to not get pushed in to the pavement and drivers often don’t know what lane they should use.

[Bmblbzzz]

I think changes there will be

I think changes there will be genuinely beneficial. I’m not so sure changes on Park St will benefit cycling – though they should reinvigorate the street as a destination.

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