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Giro – Stage 2 (TTT)

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  • May 5, 2013 at 10:55 am #18687
    TERatcliffe26

    So whats everyone doing and whats everyones thinking for today? Anyone made any specific transfers? Ive personally left it the same, my biggest problem is gonna be making transfers the next few days as Im away from this evening.

    Half my team yesterday was based on today. Although Blythe and Nava ruined my hopes for either Haas or Phinney being in Pink (countback would put Nava or Blythe in if either of there teams win by a big enough margin, so I believe). But yes Haas and Phinney were for today and tomorrow, well all week for Phinney. Zandio for Skys points, same with Wyanants for Rabo, who I think could do something on one of these undulating stages, or go in a break.

    So I expect a solid score today, All my riders could score, but I expect Sky, BMC, Radioshack, Garmin, Rabobank and OPQS to top 10, unsure on Lampre, Androni and FDJ and my biggest worry is a lack of a greenedge or Cannondale rider, who should also top 10 along with Astana. (at least some guaranteed points from Bouhanni, Cav and Nizzolo for the points comp)

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  • May 6, 2013 at 12:58 pm #732435
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    livestrongnick

    Cattaneo gets 7 for stage 2
    Cattaneo gets 7 for stage 2 not the 5 he currently has.
    5 for stage + 2 for Youth =7

    May 6, 2013 at 10:57 am #732433
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    ray silvester

    letsgoup wrote:So Viviani

    letsgoup wrote:
    So Viviani gets 5 for stage 2 not the 4 points he was allocated. Thats what I make it :D

    I think so too…4 for pts comp and 1 for youth comp makes 5.

    May 6, 2013 at 10:49 am #732431
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    letsgoup

    So Viviani gets 5 for stage 2
    So Viviani gets 5 for stage 2 not the 4 points he was allocated. Thats what I make it đŸ˜€

    May 6, 2013 at 9:44 am #732429
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    livestrongnick

    Was just gonna give some one
    đŸ˜€ Was just gonna give some one a nudge about this :B

    May 6, 2013 at 9:41 am #732427
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    TERatcliffe26

    Philip Unwin

    Philip Unwin wrote:
    TERatcliffe26 wrote:
    [quote=livestrongnick]Would i be right in thinking Puccio will be white too? :?

    I think I make this the white standings top 5

    Puccio
    Dowsett
    Aru
    Navadauskas
    Haas


    Puccio
    Dowsett
    Aru
    Cattaneo
    Viviani
    according to http://www.gazzetta.it[/quote%5D

    My bad, I was just reading through the results and trying to figure it out, Id forgot about Viviani’s bonus seconds from yesterday too

    May 6, 2013 at 6:44 am #732425
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    ray silvester

    JAndrewHill wrote:ray

    JAndrewHill wrote:
    ray silvester wrote:
    Wig_Billy wrote:
    I’ve taken a 6 point penalty… ;)

    That’s for hitting the pink I guess?

    Who Hit Cav? He was in pink…

    Bouhanni wasn’t close enough to get one of his headbutts in!!

    May 5, 2013 at 9:59 pm #732423
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    Philip Unwin

    fluffchucker wrote:Excuse my

    fluffchucker wrote:
    Excuse my ignorance, but how are the points for TTT awarded.
    Don’t 2 riders from the same team, get the same number of points? :/

    Danny Pate Sky 10
    Sergio Luis Henao Sky 18
    Salvatore Puccio Sky 25
    Bradley Wiggins Sky 19
    Dario Cataldo AR Sky 17
    Rigoberto Uran KM Sky 16


    Yes
    Puccio 10 for stage + 10 for 1st in Gen Class + 5 for youth
    Wiggins 10 for stage + 9 for second in Gen Class etc etc

    May 5, 2013 at 9:43 pm #732421
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    fluffchucker

    Excuse my ignorance, but how
    Excuse my ignorance, but how are the points for TTT awarded.
    Don’t 2 riders from the same team, get the same number of points? :/

    Danny Pate Sky 10
    Sergio Luis Henao Sky 18
    Salvatore Puccio Sky 25
    Bradley Wiggins Sky 19
    Dario Cataldo AR Sky 17
    Rigoberto Uran KM Sky 16

    May 5, 2013 at 8:19 pm #732419
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    Philip Unwin

    I’ll shut up then,shall I?
    I’ll shut up then,shall I?

    May 5, 2013 at 8:15 pm #732417
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    obutterwick

    …and some people (not me)
    …and some people (not me) are presumably only playing the game to win the daily prizes. They probably laugh at the politics and discussion of it all.

    May 5, 2013 at 8:04 pm #732415
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    Philip Unwin

    It’s not just about the
    It’s not just about the transfers, although that is a valid point. If you boxed clever today, any gains would have been nullified by the low gains from doing well. Not everybody is bad at TTTs. I’m not asking for a massive score just something that is equal to other stages. If it was up to me the TTT would not be in any tour, but that’s another story. I just think that if the TTT exists, the scoring should be reviewed.
    Love the Giro, with or without the game, but love playing (and losing) it.

    May 5, 2013 at 7:17 pm #732413
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    drheaton

    The impact of the extra
    The impact of the extra transfers will be minimal.

    Penalty transfers cost 10 points so if I had used two today to bring in Puccio and Wiggins I’d be up in points terms and able to take the 20 point hit today to make the same changes as I’m doing now with my four transfers. I could even make another two if I wanted to and as long as I picked scoring riders I’d be OK.

    The saved transfers aren’t so beneficial, I just used it as a rest day because I’m crap at TTTs. In hindsight picking Sky and Movistar riders for today would have worked out better than sticking with what I had.

    May 5, 2013 at 6:34 pm #732411
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    Philip Unwin

    Philip Unwin wrote:In which

    Philip Unwin wrote:
    In which case can I make a point.
    If you were to be able to arrange your team to try to predict 1,2,3,4 and then 5 and put two members in each of your first four and then one in the fifth team and you were correct, (possible but unlikely) then across the line scores would total 20+18+16+14+6=74. However if you predicted 1,2,3,4,5 yesterday you would have got 132. This seems a little odd as each are equally as difficult. Plus yesterday you would also been guaranteed 1…5 in GC plus, plus etc.
    Maybe for future comps it could be looked at. Maybe 20,15,12 for 1,2,3 and then 7…1.
    Looking at the forum it seems a number of people have made no changes today to save four for tomorrow knowing that a bad day would only probably leave them about 50 in arrears, whereas a bad day yesterday would have left them 150+ in arrears.
    Before you ask, no I haven’t arranged my team like that, but the thought did cross my mind and yesterday was not great but not a disaster. I had Cav, Goss and Nizz with one eye on today

    Just to back this up.
    The two people who finished =second today did so by having two riders each from sky, movistar and astana, which is picking 1,2,3 but scored a total of 86. Picking 1,2,3 on any other stage, just for crossing the line would have been 90, apart from any extras. Sorry this is NOT a rest day, it is stage two, and anybody who adjusted their team for today (probably using 2 transfers) has not benefited from their skill, judgement or luck, and lost out to people who have saved their transfers until tomorrow, safe in the knowledge that even a total ‘mare’ today would have not lost them any real ground in the overall. Anybody who left this one to save transfers for tomorrow has a bit of an advantage (although nobody knows if it will all come together tomorrow or not).

    May 5, 2013 at 5:42 pm #732409
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    livestrongnick

    Cheers Dave, extends my lead
    Cheers Dave, extends my lead over you at the top of Forum Scorum đŸ˜€

    May 5, 2013 at 5:33 pm #732407
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    dave atkinson

    livestrongnick wrote:umm

    livestrongnick wrote:
    umm youth points don’t seem to have been awarded? :?

    they have, just to the wrong people in two cases. will be updated

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