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Why do riders refuse to use cycle paths?

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  • January 9, 2012 at 10:09 am #660207
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    OldRidgeback

    CraigTheBiker – actually I
    CraigTheBiker – actually I think your figures for possible vehicle excise duty for bicycle riders are wrong.

    Anyone registering a bicycle under the scheme should be paid by the DfT, as using a bicycle actually reduces CO2 emissions by removing the need for each engine-powered vehicle movements. In this way bicycle owners could earn credit points to offset the cost of their annual vehicle tax. It would encourage vehicle owners to use bicycles instead of their vehicles and reduce congestion and emissions.

    Point that out to Mr Nero and tell him to shove it up his exhaust pipe.

    January 8, 2012 at 10:31 pm #660205
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    CraigTheBiker

    As a cyclist I would quite
    As a cyclist I would quite gladly pay vehicle excise duty.

    I assume that my bike would fall within the Band A category due to its CO2 emissions being below 100 g/km.

    So, let’s see, that would mean I have to pay….absolutely nothing, just like all the other vehicles that have low CO2 emissions!

    Mr Nero can stick that in his exhaust pipe and smoke it.

    Edit: I was so irritated by this article that I’ve now written a response on my site: http://www.bikingadventures.co.uk/why-cyclists-refuse-cycle-paths

    January 8, 2012 at 5:30 pm #660203
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    Simon E

    PeteH wrote:@jonD – I use the

    PeteH wrote:
    @jonD – I use the phrase “road tax” very deliberately because that is how it is perceived by many motorists, who think that because they pay this tax they have more right to be on the road than cyclists who do not (have to pay for their bikes).

    When told by some gobby ignoramus that you don’t pay Road Tax it would make more sense logically to say “Neither do you”.

    By saying you pay Road Tax you are perpetuating the myth that it even exists. That might be why it was suggested that you ‘do us a favour’.

    January 8, 2012 at 2:50 pm #660201
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    paulfg42

    Guy is a complete idiot.
    Guy is a complete idiot. Round here, ‘cycle paths’ are either pavements or derelict pathways full of potholes and assorted debris. Unfortunately, too many other road users share this guy’s mindset.

    January 8, 2012 at 12:00 pm #660199
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    PeteH

    @jonD – I use the phrase
    @jonD – I use the phrase “road tax” very deliberately because that is how it is perceived by many motorists, who think that because they pay this tax they have more right to be on the road than cyclists who do not (have to pay for their bikes).

    Also, when you say “do the rest of us a favour”, do you not think it is a little presumptuous of you to be claiming to be speaking on behalf of the cycling community?

    I for one would not dream of claiming that anything I posted on here was anyone’s view except my own.

    January 7, 2012 at 11:39 pm #660197
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    JonD

    >that most cyclists are also
    >that most cyclists are also motorists, therefore will pay road tax just like

    If you feel you have to use this argument, *please* do the rest of us a favour and get it right – it’s ‘car tax’, not ‘road tax’ (since it’s Vehicle Excise Duty). Tho’ I suspect the distinction will escape the recipient anyway…

    January 7, 2012 at 9:52 am #660195
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    johnboymitchell

    I live in West Cumbria and we
    I live in West Cumbria and we are not overly blessed with cycle paths but what we do have is pretty crap. There is a nice route near me which will be familiar to anyone who’s done the coast to coast, starting at Whitehaven. A truly lovely route next to the sea but used by dog walkers who mostly have them off the lead. They look at you as if you have no right to be there. I also share the puncture problems of the others above. I have now more or less crossed this off my routes although we are lucky to have plenty of nice back roads here! The other issue I have is one share with a poster above, they have obviously been laid out by a non cyclist!

    January 6, 2012 at 9:55 pm #660193
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    PeteH

    Just posted the following
    Just posted the following response (on thisisexeter) to that guy’s post.

    Legally speaking, you should probably be aware that a cyclist has every right to be on the same road as your car, regardless of any other facilities that may be available. Morally speaking, you should be aware that most cyclists are also motorists, therefore will pay road tax just like you.

    I would suggest that if you get in a car and contemplate deliberately knocking people over, or blasting them with your horn (presumably such that they come off their bike), the person unfit to be on the public highway is YOU.

    I’ve also contacted the police about this to see if there are grounds to make a complaint – I doubt it but you never know. Its all very well dismissing the guy as an idiot but its scary that he’s admitting driving his car contemplating whether or not to attempt to kill people.

    January 6, 2012 at 6:45 pm #660191
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    Adey

    As Simon E posted
    Everytime i
    As Simon E posted
    Everytime i use the ‘cyclepath/pavement’ where i live i always end up getting punctures due to the debris/crap left on them

    January 6, 2012 at 5:59 pm #660189
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    giff77

    Is he on about cycle ‘lanes’
    Is he on about cycle ‘lanes’ or cycle ‘paths’? I nmay be being perdantic here but in my experience the ‘path’ is nowhere near the road and is usually shared – I avoid these due to the fact that it goes nowhere near where you want to go and is littered with glass. Lanes – I also avoid as they have all the crap of the road and never get cleared and are also full of potholes due to the council’s creating a lane that they do not need to maintain!! I’m usually travelling fast enough to not create a huge tailback and stay on the puncture free part of the carriageway – damn it I’ve now invoked the wrath of the pp’s

    January 6, 2012 at 4:37 pm #660187
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    mad_scot_rider

    I have a 25 mile round trip
    I have a 25 mile round trip commute and use a cycle path for around 4 of it

    To be fair there is a marked NCN route the whole distance – which takes you through back streets with blind corners, shocking junctions and un-necessarily steep drops & climbs – that’s where you are not on sections of incredibly short cycle paths created by people who have obviously never commuted by bike in their puff!

    The road on the other hand is mostly dual-carriageway, largely junction free and a treat to hammer along keeping a tad above 20 mph as much as I can manage

    Not a hard choice is it?

    January 6, 2012 at 4:22 pm #660185
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    phax71

    Because they’re ALWAYS strewn
    Because they’re ALWAYS strewn with broken glass for some reason … I do tend to use them on real busy stretches but if I spot glass I’m back on the road ….

    January 6, 2012 at 4:13 pm #660183
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    big mick

    What a complete tit of a man
    What a complete tit of a man his guy must be

    January 6, 2012 at 2:44 pm #660181
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    Simon E

    Too many drivers have
    Too many drivers have forgotten that we are not “in their way”.

    Cyclists are traffic – we use the road, just as they do.

    January 6, 2012 at 2:17 pm #660179
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    step-hent

    wrote:As a responsible

    As a responsible citizen I slow down. I fume. And I add fumes. Slow-moving traffic wastes fuel and adds to carbon emissions. Idiots who ignore cycle paths should appreciate that future generations of children will drown as global warming wipes out Lympstone. And it’s their fault.

    Right. It’s the fault of the cyclist, not of the person responsible for the gas guzzler spewing out the fumes in the first place.

    A very special kind of tool…

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