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Rapha not happy with Torm

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  • January 25, 2011 at 9:48 am #13040
    11speedaddict

    Has anyone else been in touch with Torm clothing ? i noticed their website showing”o ut of stock” on all items so i did some snooping. I believe Rapha are squeezing them legally so to speak.
    i think this is disgraceful. However you look at it Torm is less than half the price for very similiar quality jerseys. I know some rapha fans dont agree with Torm but thats only because feel foolish spending so much more on identical jerseys. I have owned both brands and i wouldnt buy rapha again over torm BUT now I certainly will not buy rapha if this is how they act to competitors.
    are they trademarking the stripe across the arm / front.
    Its effectively bullying and more importantly its stopping people like me buying reasonably priced jerseys. What are Rapha saying ” you pay our prices or take a hike” outrageous.
    I wouldnt mind but by nature Rapha is retro through and through. their designs hark back to previous decades designs.
    Anyone else feel the same way ? any Torm owners out there feel Rapha are dictating prices here ?

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  • February 10, 2011 at 12:44 pm #640277
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    Fixie Girl

    simonmb wrote:Fixie Girl

    simonmb wrote:
    Fixie Girl wrote:
    First post promoting Torm?

    Hardly FG. There have been many. Where have you been? :/

    I mean the previous poster, its his/her first post… On another forum, like LFGSS that’s a capital offence.. He/She should try it…

    FG

    February 10, 2011 at 11:57 am #640275
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    simonmb

    Fixie Girl wrote:First post

    Fixie Girl wrote:
    First post promoting Torm?

    Hardly FG. There have been many. Where have you been? :/

    February 10, 2011 at 11:27 am #640273
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    Fixie Girl

    Bom W wrote:Well, I bagged

    Bom W wrote:
    Well, I bagged one of the red long sleeve ones and very pleased with it I must say, and at such a great price!

    Like the look of the new designs as well and will be getting more when funds are better.

    Really pleased that they are back trading again and feel that they will be a better and stronger company for it.


    First post promoting Torm? Lucky you didnt try this on LFGSS forum!

    February 10, 2011 at 8:27 am #640271
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    Bom W

    Well, I bagged one of the red
    Well, I bagged one of the red long sleeve ones and very pleased with it I must say, and at such a great price!

    Like the look of the new designs as well and will be getting more when funds are better.

    Really pleased that they are back trading again and feel that they will be a better and stronger company for it.

    February 9, 2011 at 8:20 pm #640269
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    James Warrener

    So so tempting
    So so tempting đŸ‘¿ đŸ‘¿ đŸ‘¿ đŸ‘¿

    February 6, 2011 at 8:05 pm #640267
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    The _Kaner

    ..and just to add fuel to the
    ..and just to add fuel to the fire…the cost of Torm is now less than it was before….(albeit short term)

    @ TheHatter…very good..made me smile/laugh as much as the ‘Colnoga riding ‘raph@ wearing boys’ in the pic…

    February 6, 2011 at 3:08 pm #640265
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    TheHatter

    “He thought we were wearing
    “He thought we were wearing Rapha!!”
    laughed the boys on their Colnoga bikes
    http://www.torm.cc/image/cache/p-and-c-laughing-IMG_3079-CF8E795B-5782-424D-8DFB-D375ECA7338C-620×350-q80.jpg

    February 6, 2011 at 3:03 pm #640263
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    TheHatter

    I have to say that while I
    I have to say that while I wouldn’t have purchased Torm before any more than I’d purcase an ‘Georgina Armoni’ tshirt the new kit looks good and I’m tempted. Certainly you can see where the inspiration comes from but seems its no longer a copycat.

    February 6, 2011 at 1:48 pm #640261
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    Simon_MacMichael

    Wouldn’t want to wear that
    Wouldn’t want to wear that middle one anywhere near a Spurs-supporting White Van Man đŸ˜•

    February 6, 2011 at 12:03 pm #640259
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    sneakerfrfeak

    And yet the most blatant
    And yet the most blatant copy, their arm warmers, remain unchanged?

    February 6, 2011 at 7:06 am #640257
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    11speedaddict

    looks smart indeed
    big
    looks smart indeed
    big improvement
    and cheap.
    and the were cheap to start with
    hurrah

    February 6, 2011 at 4:12 am #640255
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    simonmb

    Peace in our time. Sounds
    Peace in our time. Sounds like this spat is finally over. Torm have announced a sale to clear their current stock, and they’ve revealed revised design details. Looks mighty fine to me =D>

    February 5, 2011 at 10:56 am #640253
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    11speedaddict

    Well well well, I was about
    Well well well, I was about to stop adding to this thread. I started it and I was thinking it’s gone off on a tangent, but something’s come to light. I believe, in fact I know, Torm will be back on sale this weekend.

    Bombshell – I have now heard some of the details of the cease & decist letters.

    And if it wasn’t for the fact that I don’t wish to mess with any legal case Torm may have, I would publish the details so other people contributing to this topic can see what a lovely company Rapha are.

    Tony, whoever told you that:

    “no legal letter was ever sent by Rapha to Torm. All they did, I’m told, was write to Torm pointing out that TWO of their garments (yes, the jersey and the arm warmers) were a bit too similar to Rapha’s which was all rather ungentlemanly (or words to that effect), If that’s the case it hardly seems to amount to legal bullying and certainly falls well short of threatening to send the boys round to”

    Tony I will email you what I know about the legal details that Rapha had sent to Torm.

    For anyone interested Rapha seem to think they own the rights to many details that in my opinion are present in existing cycle clothes. The details are very ‘detailed’ and I would love to publish them but it could predudice things. So Tony your “informants informant” has got mixed up with a different case, as i say i will email you the details if you wish

    After talking over the details I actually feel like re-titling the thread back to bullying- its actually much worse than bullying.
    I’ll say it again = Rapha are pissed off with the price difference

    I for one will never buy a single Rapha item again. All my cycling buddies will boycott Rapha forever now.

    I wish Torm all the best for the future.

    Thats me signing off

    p.s. I have no connection with Torm whatsoever except just a satisfied customer.

    February 4, 2011 at 2:03 pm #640251
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    Tony Farrelly

    Thanks Ian it does sound like
    Thanks Ian it does sound like I’ve been mis-informed doesn’t it – ah well, bit of egg on my face will probably do my complexion the world of good.

    From what I now understand Rapha and Torm are talking to each other about all this and those conversations do have a legal dimension to them. One way or another I’m sure we’ll find out the result soon enough. In the meantime us speculating on who’s doing what to whom is probably not all that productive – so we should probably all knock it on the head for the time being.

    Mind you, I’m sure the opportunity to discuss the relative merits of Rapha and Torm will present itself soon enough.

    February 4, 2011 at 9:57 am #640249
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    Simon E

    CLX1 wrote:I don’t intend to

    CLX1 wrote:
    I don’t intend to go into my personal details on this forum but you don’t know how I prioritise my spending, you don’t know what kind of home I live in or if I have a car or not.

    Those of us who have responded are well aware of that. You contributed to the thread with information that *suggests* you’re not skint. If the responses bother you then you could either give more info to clarify or less – or maybe none at all about your purchasing choices so we can’t make assumptions about you from them. Or you could lie and pretend you ride a Halfords BSO wearing JJB stuff from the sale.

    CLX1 wrote:
    some of the comments made in this thread are quite insulting, the one that really p***es me off is the “all the gear and no idea”, it’s typical of the superior attitude of some roadies,

    It doesn’t have to piss you off, that’s your choice. This is the internet – we’re not all going to agree and people don’t feel a need to politely respect others’ opinions in the way they might face-to-face with people they know. I don’t have a problem with ATGNI types, it’s their money. I just hope it eventually brings good kit onto the secondhand market for people like me. Is there a Rapha fanboy forum? It might save you some grief.

    CLX1 wrote:
    the length of this thread is a perfect example of just how good Raphas marketing is

    No, this thread is more about opinions on Rapha’s pricing and whether another brand can sell very similar garments for a lot less money. If I feel something’s overpriced aren’t I allowed to say so? Rapha gets talked about so much because of the diverse (even opposing) reactions to their products and prices.

    Their marketing may deserve separate discussions but it doesn’t interest me, it’s just marketing – you could say it’s merely a means of separating MAMILs from their money đŸ˜‰

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