The ultimate saddle bag

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    survivor

    Several close friends and I have been working on a bicycle saddle bag prototype and would like to get some inputs and feedbacks from fellow cyclists here. We want to make sure we are on the right path to help address the issues that current saddle bags have.

    As avid cyclists ourselves, we often time have our dilemmas when it comes to saddle bag. Practical or aesthetic? Size or storage? At one hand we want the saddle bag practicality of carrying around the essentials items like spare tubes and multitools during our rides. On the other hand we want to keep the clean aesthetic of our bike. In the case where the practical sense won the first dilemma, we typically still need to trade off between storage space or utterly bulky saddle bag. Even the ones least concern with aesthetic would shake their heads staring at the brick like saddle bag hanging below the bicycle saddle. Majority of the saddle bags in the market today are boxy and black, which doesn’t help to promote the saddle bag’s stylish or aesthetic aspect.

    What do you guys look for when choosing a saddle bag? What is in your wish list of the ultimate saddle bag? If you are not a saddle bag user today, what is holding you back and what will make you switch camp?

    Would you be interested if there is a saddle bag that can do the following?
    1. Compact enough to carry most of your essential items. Think 2 spare tubes, 2 tire levers,  2 CO2 canisters, Multitools with chain tool, patch kit, all these in a compact form factor.
    2. Stylish enough to not ruin your bike aesthetic, this can be quite subjective and personal but assume it meets your styling requirement.
    3. Quick attach and release. Much faster than dealing with Velcro.
    4. Abundant styling/color choices.

    We love to hear your inputs and hopefully we will be able to create something that all the cyclists want to use. Thanks!

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  • #907709
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    survivor
    drjohn wrote:
    survivor wrote:
    Hopefully you will like what you see when our solution finally came into fruitation. 

    Did you mean to say “comes to fruition”….?

    thewordisnotfruitation.com/

    Unless your startup is actually called “fruitation”, in which case I applaud both your literary genius and your clever marketing (not clever enough for a Nobel prize though).

     

    Thanks for pointing that out. Sorry for my bad spelling.

    #907707
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    drjohn
    survivor wrote:
    Hopefully you will like what you see when our solution finally came into fruitation. 

    Did you mean to say “comes to fruition”….?

    thewordisnotfruitation.com/

    Unless your startup is actually called “fruitation”, in which case I applaud both your literary genius and your clever marketing (not clever enough for a Nobel prize though).

    #907705
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    survivor
    mikeymustard wrote:
    It’s a big ask to have one bag to do everything.

    I’ve made several saddle bags for myself, and also own a decent sized Carradice (Cadet).

    I find a bag of about 15cm x 15 x 15  [around 3 litres] is a nice size for 2-5 hr rides – inside I keep multitool, couple of tubes, CO2, scabs, a sample-sized bottle of chain lube, pvc gloves, a couple of emergency cereal bars etc.

    If I’m going for a leisurely day trip my carradice carries all of the above plus: flask and sandwiches, stuff like swimming kit, walking shoes, camera kit etc. and a light raincoat (on outside) and lock (also attached to the outside), with room for other stuff if necessary. It can also be used to carry some shopping home. Carradice claim the Cadet has 13Lcapacity but I think it’s actually about 15L!

    So if you could make a bag that will carry everything the Carradice can but be only about 15cm cubed, then not only will you have a bag for every eventuality but you’ll probably get the Nobel prize for physics too!

     

    We are definitely no Nobel prize winner, and it is out of our design scope to be able to carry everything that the Carradice can. Having said that we do try to achieve a storage capacity one step bigger than its size class typically offers. Hopefully you will like what you see when our solution finally came into fruition. Thanks for your inputs!

    #907703
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    mikeymustard

    It’s a big ask to have one

    It’s a big ask to have one bag to do everything.

    I’ve made several saddle bags for myself, and also own a decent sized Carradice (Cadet).

    I find a bag of about 15cm x 15 x 15  [around 3 litres] is a nice size for 2-5 hr rides – inside I keep multitool, couple of tubes, CO2, scabs, a sample-sized bottle of chain lube, pvc gloves, a couple of emergency cereal bars etc.

    If I’m going for a leisurely day trip my carradice carries all of the above plus: flask and sandwiches, stuff like swimming kit, walking shoes, camera kit etc. and a light raincoat (on outside) and lock (also attached to the outside), with room for other stuff if necessary. It can also be used to carry some shopping home. Carradice claim the Cadet has 13Lcapacity but I think it’s actually about 15L!

    So if you could make a bag that will carry everything the Carradice can but be only about 15cm cubed, then not only will you have a bag for every eventuality but you’ll probably get the Nobel prize for physics too!

    #907701
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    risoto

    I prefer to patch my

    I prefer to patch my punctured inner tube roadside (I ride alone) and carry the following:

    1. Spare inner tube in plastic bag for pretection (for serious emergencies: if you ruin the tube patching it or if the valve fails)

    2. 3 Tire levers (need them for very tight fit on my rims) plus I’ve broken several in the past. Get some from Tacx – unbreakable.

    3. Patch kit – Park Tool or Lezyne. Pre-glued are worthless though they might get you home, they don’t last.

    4. Good pump – just got a Lezyne Road Drive mini pump (size L)

    5. Multitool with built-in chain-tool (never had a chain break but might happen)

    6. Quick/missing KMC link chain link

    7. Tire boot from either Park Tool or Lezyne

    8. Smartphone and credit in plastic bag stuffed in a top tube bag – I don’t like to carry stuff in my jersey pockets.

    I hate velcro saddle bags so it should click to the saddle rails and it should be possible to put a light on the back that DOESN’T fall off! (happened once – I lost it) Look to a secure solution on the Scicon brand.

     

    #907699
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    rowes

    In mine, one inner tube,
    In mine, one inner tube, levers, multitool, valve core tool, patches, small bandage, couple of plasters. If I ride In the dark I’ve a couple of bookman lights in the too. Longer rides maybe some gels or flapjacks shoved in. Out with the kids and wife I’ll bring a dumbbell spanner.
    I’ve had one that was almost like a gel case, so a bit firmer. It was great as its waterproof and easy to clean, particularly during winter and for off roading.
    Universal clips between bag sizes and bikes is must. As are light loop too.
    It would be nice to have a separate, easy to access card/coin section so you don’t spill the entire contents outside the cafe.
    Different colours sounds good, but meets to be cleanable.

    #907697
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    survivor

    gunswick wrote:

    gunswick wrote:
    Topeak already make them, the XL size is great.

    what do you think about Topeak size M equivalent but with L size storage capability?

    #907695
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    gunswick

    Topeak already make them, the
    Topeak already make them, the XL size is great.

    #907693
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    survivor
    akmbikes wrote:
    For me, in no particular order:

    Space to carry two tubes, multitool with chain splitter,  2 tyre levers and, ideally, a few other bits and pieces summing up to the size of another inner tube.

    It should be narrow.

    A light loop that keeps the light pointing in the correct direction is a must. And it should be able to cope with a decent weight of light.

    I’m prefer to have a cinch stap for the saddle and seat post but the one for the saddle should just go right round the bag. Much the best way, as it stays tightly on even if the stiching for the strap to the bag fails. And not having to purchase and fit the quick release mounts is a bonus.

    Waterproof would be nice.

    No bling design. A nice black bag is fine. If you must bling it at all, put a little reflective piping on it.

    Hope it helps…

    Al

     

    Storage space for all the listed items – checked

    Narrow to avoid bib/tight rubs – checked

    A solid attachment place for rear light – checked

    Solid and fail safe mean of attachment – checked

    Water/weather proof – checked

    Bling or black, with reflective deco – checked

    I think you will like what you see when our product is ready yes

    #907691
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    akmbikes

    For me, in no particular

    For me, in no particular order:

    Space to carry two tubes, multitool with chain splitter,  2 tyre levers and, ideally, a few other bits and pieces summing up to the size of another inner tube.

    It should be narrow.

    A light loop that keeps the light pointing in the correct direction is a must. And it should be able to cope with a decent weight of light.

    I’m prefer to have a cinch stap for the saddle and seat post but the one for the saddle should just go right round the bag. Much the best way, as it stays tightly on even if the stiching for the strap to the bag fails. And not having to purchase and fit the quick release mounts is a bonus.

    Waterproof would be nice.

    No bling design. A nice black bag is fine. If you must bling it at all, put a little reflective piping on it.

    Hope it helps…

    Al

    #907689
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    alansmurphy

    BTBS is interested in a niche
    BTBS is interested in a niche offering looking for an ideal bag for one 😉

    I’d say that variety is your friend and you’re unlikely to find one that suits all. Love the phone idea of being able to access that without all being disturbed. I may have had a brain wave for you, the Russian doll of cycling bags. I carry less in the summer and winter throws up different issues, moisture, mud etc. Why not have a small bag (perhaps not so waterproof) that can be used alone or fit into the bigger bag when required?

    Sample will do as payment 😉

    #907687
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    survivor
    No Sweat wrote:
    Also, if you can contrive a way to carry a phone so that it’s accessable without disturbing everything else in the bag, but it’s still held securely and kept dry – then I’m in (probably)!

    I guess it really depends on the phone size isn’t it?  Galaxy Note or iPhone plus will be a though challenge! no

    #907685
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    survivor
    BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
    survivor wrote:
    BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
    Dimensions for a snug racing bike type saddle bag should be circa 16cmx10x13cm LxDxW

    The dimension of the prototype that we are working for is more compact than 16cmx10cmx13cm LxDxW so hopefully it will be snug enough smiley

    Too small and it then becomes less useful for the sake of a few extra cm, my tyre repair cannister (for riding tubs) is 15cm long, if I can’t get that in lengthways then the bag is no good to me as I’d have to have that in my jersey pocket.

    having measured out the space with the tool, cannister etc it should be 16x8x10 and no less, any smaller and it isn’t a useful saddle bag IMHO unless you don’t want to take things like a spare tube plus multitool plus two decent tyre levers, and there are already inexpensive very small bags on the market already.

    How do you propose to attach such a small bag to the saddle, singular clip, how are you angling the bag, vertical, horizontal or at an angle to match the seatpost?

     

    There is not many cycling items that cyclists would bring during their ride that is 15cm or longer.  Frankly we haven’t design our bag to store the tyre repair cannister. But perhaps it is something we need to look at in our design iterations. We are still finalizing our design so we may throw that in if it make sense.

    Like I mentioned we are still finalizing a lot of our design details and there are still alot of options/selections that we need to go through. I will definitely share the details with you once we are finalized.

    #907683
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    No Sweat

    In no particular order:

    In no particular order:

    Black is the new black – it goes with anything, and is least likely to show bike related oily dirt.

    One size is unlikely to fit all.

    Somewhere to attach a rear light is a must if the bag takes up seatpost ‘real estate’, and the light should always point the right way, whatever the load in the bag.

    The ideal saddlebag should not make a sound when the bike is in motion – the fixings must be rattle-free and the contents of the bag must be held tightly so they do not move or rattle (compression straps?).

    It should be waterproof.

    Also, if you can contrive a way to carry a phone so that it’s accessable without disturbing everything else in the bag, but it’s still held securely and kept dry – then I’m in (probably)!

     

    #907681
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    Anonymous
    survivor wrote:
    BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
    Dimensions for a snug racing bike type saddle bag should be circa 16cmx10x13cm LxDxW

    The dimension of the prototype that we are working for is more compact than 16cmx10cmx13cm LxDxW so hopefully it will be snug enough smiley

    Too small and it then becomes less useful for the sake of a few extra cm, my tyre repair cannister (for riding tubs) is 15cm long, if I can’t get that in lengthways then the bag is no good to me as I’d have to have that in my jersey pocket.

    having measured out the space with the tool, cannister etc it should be 16x8x10 and no less, any smaller and it isn’t a useful saddle bag IMHO unless you don’t want to take things like a spare tube plus multitool plus two decent tyre levers, and there are already inexpensive very small bags on the market already.

    How do you propose to attach such a small bag to the saddle, singular clip, how are you angling the bag, vertical, horizontal or at an angle to match the seatpost?

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