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  • October 3, 2017 at 4:26 pm #27702
    BrokenBootneck

    I have for many years been a massive Garmin fan. Used many product no real issues, great replacement service. After a few years of almost constant daily use my edge 1000 has given up the ghost. The screen isn’t working at all. Having tried a few things only to find nothing works but the bullet and rang Garmin. It has recently gone up from 90 quid for a refurb to nearly 200. 

    Bloody terrible. Anyone have a good alternative to Garmin. I use the map screen quite a lot. The other basic metrics I guess are standard. 

    Cheers for any suggestions. 

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  • October 4, 2017 at 10:17 am #903731
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    fenix

    Maybe they just costed it all

    Maybe they just costed it all out and realised that they send out so many replacements that they need to make some money back.

     

     

    October 4, 2017 at 10:10 am #903729
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    davel
    luiandlui wrote:
    Anybody who has a half decent smartphone and then goes out and spends money on a dedicated gps unit of any make is utterly nuts. I use my Iphone 7 on a quad-lock mount. I spent £20 on an external battery which gives me a range of around 500km. Also, using Ride with GPS  is massively, massively better than any Garmin I have ever seen.

    aw, someone on the internet says I’m utterly nuts.

    The idea of having my phone out in all weather, with me punching its screen , sometimes with gloved, unfeeling fingers, and then not being able to use it as a phone because its battery is mullered, really doesn’t appeal to me.

    Ah but a mobile charger/external battery pack, you cry!

    Another bit of gadgetry to solve only one of the above problems? No ta.

    October 4, 2017 at 9:50 am #903727
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    luiandlui

    Anybody who has a half decent

    Anybody who has a half decent smartphone and then goes out and spends money on a dedicated gps unit of any make is utterly nuts. I use my Iphone 7 on a quad-lock mount. I spent £20 on an external battery which gives me a range of around 500km. Also, using Ride with GPS  is massively, massively better than any Garmin I have ever seen.

    October 4, 2017 at 8:59 am #903725
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    ibr17xvii
    Yorkshire wallet wrote:
    LOL at this level of technology being a ‘bargain’. All dedicated GPS units  (car or bike) are a rip-off.

    Look at what you get packed into £100 of phone these days and people think Garmin and the like are providing value for money. Garmin are the Apple of biking but people will pay what they charge so the prices will never go down.

    No doubt the chinese will get in on this soon and force some market change.

    Never actually owned a Garmin but they do seem vastly overpriced for what they are.

    I’ve a Cateye that does all of what I need it to do for a fraction of the price.

    October 4, 2017 at 8:43 am #903723
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    ClubSmed

    wycombewheeler wrote:

    wycombewheeler wrote:
    Morat wrote:

    Now you can get a quarter turn mounts for phones and the phones themselves are waterproof, I’m not sure I’d bother with another Garmin once this Edge 800 goes pop.

    Phone batteries don’t last if you are using for navigation. I prefer to keep my phone avaable for emergencies rather than finding it flat by the end of the ride.

    That is why you spend a fraction of the money you saved from buying a dedicated GPS unit on an external battery charger. The one I have sits comfortably on the tube top bag for constant feed, can charge my phone 8x and cost less than £30

    October 4, 2017 at 8:40 am #903721
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    Yorkshire wallet wrote:
    LOL at this level of technology being a ‘bargain’. All dedicated GPS units  (car or bike) are a rip-off.

    Look at what you get packed into £100 of phone these days and people think Garmin and the like are providing value for money. Garmin are the Apple of biking but people will pay what they charge so the prices will never go down.

    No doubt the chinese will get in on this soon and force some market change.

    When comparing it with a £100 phone are you comparing with one at full retail or one subsidised by a network operator? The last few phones that I got on contract would have cost between £500-£1k at full retail

    October 4, 2017 at 8:40 am #903719
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    rkemb

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    No doubt the chinese will get in on this soon and force some market change

    Well, [url=”https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1549595669/xoss-sprint-an-exceptional-powerful-cycling-comput”%5Dthey’re trying[/url].

    October 4, 2017 at 8:38 am #903717
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    HLaB

    I’ve had a 1000 for about 3

    I’ve had a 1000 for about 3 years or more.  The first one stated to misbehave (can’t remebere now how) and was replaced under warranty.  The second one through my stupidity flew of the bars at the start of the year (or maybe the end of last) and Garmin charged £77 for a refurb.   Hopefully this one last a while (it through a spazzy once, couldn’t find any satellites) but touchwood it has settled down.  £200 would have me lloking elsewhere for my next unit though.  I like the look of the new Giant GPS which is cheaper than that and although its only B&W he battery is clamed to last for 33h.

    October 4, 2017 at 8:22 am #903715
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    risoto

    Had the Edge 1000 for ½ year,

    Had the Edge 1000 for ½ year, navigation utterly useless. Bought a Lezyne super gps, very, but very pleased with it. Arrow navigation with street names works surprisingly well. Battery life is simply amazing.

    Garmin is highly overpriced with underpowered hardware. With a proper processor and memory, navigation would be working. It is by far the biggest disappointment I’ve had with any tech product.

    October 4, 2017 at 7:44 am #903713
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    Anonymous

    LOL at this level of

    LOL at this level of technology being a ‘bargain’. All dedicated GPS units  (car or bike) are a rip-off.

    Look at what you get packed into £100 of phone these days and people think Garmin and the like are providing value for money. Garmin are the Apple of biking but people will pay what they charge so the prices will never go down.

    No doubt the chinese will get in on this soon and force some market change.

    October 4, 2017 at 7:38 am #903711
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    Anonymous

    wycombewheeler wrote:

    wycombewheeler wrote:
    fukawitribe wrote:

    DoctorFish wrote:
    Seems lots of Garmin fanbois responding to your post.  A price increase like that is bonkers.

    Not at all – just pointing out that he had a piece of electronics that you used practically every day, in all weathers I presume, for “a few years” – and eventually the screen on it went. That would seem to be good service to me, for any manufacturer, and 60 quid for a replacement seems _very_ cheap for something with that scale of sales. 

    80 for a new screen only not a new unit. What does it cost to replace a phone screen? I’ve never broken one but I imagine it is less than 200 to replace.

    If you’re an Apple user then a out of warranty repair will be £135-£175 depending on model….

    October 4, 2017 at 7:11 am #903709
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    theironduck

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    80 for a new screen only not a new unit. What does it cost to replace a phone screen? I’ve never broken one but I imagine it is less than 200 to replace.

    I’ve just had my phone screen replaced.  It cost me £79.99 at a local repair shop.

    October 3, 2017 at 10:07 pm #903707
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    wycombewheeler

    fukawitribe wrote:

    fukawitribe wrote:

    DoctorFish wrote:
    Seems lots of Garmin fanbois responding to your post.  A price increase like that is bonkers.

    Not at all – just pointing out that he had a piece of electronics that you used practically every day, in all weathers I presume, for “a few years” – and eventually the screen on it went. That would seem to be good service to me, for any manufacturer, and 60 quid for a replacement seems _very_ cheap for something with that scale of sales. 

    80 for a new screen only not a new unit. What does it cost to replace a phone screen? I’ve never broken one but I imagine it is less than 200 to replace.

    October 3, 2017 at 10:05 pm #903705
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    wycombewheeler

    Morat wrote:

    Morat wrote:

    Now you can get a quarter turn mounts for phones and the phones themselves are waterproof, I’m not sure I’d bother with another Garmin once this Edge 800 goes pop.


    Phone batteries don’t last if you are using for navigation. I prefer to keep my phone avaable for emergencies rather than finding it flat by the end of the ride.

    October 3, 2017 at 9:56 pm #903703
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    fukawitribe
    DoctorFish wrote:
    Seems lots of Garmin fanbois responding to your post.  A price increase like that is bonkers.

    Not at all – just pointing out that he had a piece of electronics that you used practically every day, in all weathers I presume, for “a few years” – and eventually the screen on it went. That would seem to be good service to me, for any manufacturer, and 60 quid for a replacement seems _very_ cheap for something with that scale of sales. 

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