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Canyon Endurace- set up like Ultimate?

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  • September 10, 2017 at 9:40 pm #27619
    GavinC

    Hi …pondering between both as not tried either. 

    Any Endurace riders out there- curious to see if you can truly set up as asserive as Ultimate

    (Ult SL 9.0 Disc vs End SLX 8.0 Disc)

    Usually do 40-50m rides rather than out and out sprints. (mid 40s rider…..no bad back problems)

    Cheers

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  • October 12, 2017 at 7:47 pm #902049
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    Flandrien

    Alright, thanks for the

    Alright, thanks for the advice! I just ordered a Endurace CF SL 7.0 Disc. smiley €200 cheaper than the Ultimate, so that made my decision a little bit easier. 

    October 7, 2017 at 9:47 am #902047
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    GavinC

    My advice then would be to go

    My advice then would be to go with your gut- can make one more aggressive and the other softer as needed.

    ps I was also worried about sizing . At 177cm I was advised for a small . 1cm more would be a medium. I went small and ok (despite large mountain bike) didn’t even need longer stem…but may do that in future. FYI a small is a 54…sobotgrrs would call it a medium

    October 7, 2017 at 9:43 am #902045
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    GavinC

    Just got the ultimate cf sl

    Just got the ultimate cf sl Di2 disc in brown! Really do like the colour but could be marmitey. First wanted SLX in gt blue but didn’t fancy the alu aerowheels  named as carbon wheels (canyon-why?) Felt ripped off by them….so got great wheels and tyres on the SL version and Di2.

    as the OP I was torn between endurace and ultimate.

    the ultimate though is relaxed enough geometry so I surprisingly put the stem lower. …even though I was considering an endurace. Actually now know I’d have been happy with either despite changing mind all the time and having analysis paralysis 

    October 6, 2017 at 3:40 pm #902043
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    Flandrien

    I’m more or less in the same

    I’m more or less in the same boat and I’m losing sleep over it!

    My first choice was the Endurace, changed my mind 20 times and now I’m back to the Endurace, but I’m still not confident about it. I will use my bike most of the time on flat roads, short hills and cobblestones every now and then for rides mostly around 100km or more (I’m planning to go to the Alps though). I don’t compete in races, it’s just for fun with the club or sometimes I participate in cyclosportive events. But offcourse I want to go fast. 🙂 

    When I’m riding, my hands are most of the time on top or at the shifters, almost never in the drop bars. So I’m guessing Endurace is the right choice, but I’m a little bit afraid it won’t be enough ‘racey’. 

    How does the Ultimate act on the cobblestones?

     

     

    September 21, 2017 at 5:36 pm #902041
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    joeegg

    I have an Endurace CF9 and

    I have an Endurace CF9 and love it. Probably the only thing to change would be a 10mm longer stem,and I wish I’d known about the exchange offer.

    The front end is so stiff and direct compared to my carbon Scott.The leaf spring seatpost does work but needs a reasonable amount showing over the clamp.Perfectly set up out of the box and quick delivery as the bike was in stock.

     

    I’m around 1.8m tall and the M is spot on apart from stem length. I only wished Canyon were a bit more adventurous with their colours but that’s being picky.

    September 21, 2017 at 3:10 pm #902039
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    CanyonChloe

    Hi Big Jay,

    Hi Big Jay,

    Our bikes aren’t really designed to have anything attached to them in this way and strapping anything to the frame or post could cause asthetic marks.

    Please also bear in mind that the total max weight we recommend for our bikes is 120kg so it’s important to be aware of how much weight you are putting into the saddle pack.

    The VCLS leaf spring on the Endurace CF SLX is probably not the best post to use if you are thinking of strapping the saddle pack to it, and if you are going to do this I would suggest purchasing a solid post that is stronger. These can be found on our website below:

    https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/accessories/?category=2706

    Hope that helps!

    Thanks,

    CanyonChloe

    September 21, 2017 at 3:01 pm #902037
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    Big Jay
    CanyonChloe wrote:
    Hi Gavin,

    Great to hear you’re interested in purchasing a Canyon bike!

    The Ultimate is our lightest road bike. It’s stiff, responsive and ideal for climbing.

    The Endurace is also a great bike but the geometry is a little more relaxed with a shorter top tube and taller head tube and designed more around comfort. Great for those training rides and long days in the saddle!

    Whichever bike you decide to go for we do have a 30 day stem and handlebar exchange so if you feel you want to change these things all you need to do is let us know within 30 days of receiving the bike.

    Please let us know if you have any more questions!

    Thanks,

    CanyonChloe

     

    would you advise against using an Apidura saddle pack if not full to brimming on the VCLS seat post or do you think it will cope ok? I want to ride a long 2 day ride and was hoping to use the Endurace SLX?

    September 21, 2017 at 2:52 pm #902035
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    surly_by_name

    I didn’t know that I needed

    I didn’t know that I needed an “assertive” bike. So glad I visited this forum discussion.

    September 21, 2017 at 2:42 pm #902033
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    CanyonChloe

    Hi Gavin,

    Hi Gavin,

    Great to hear you’re interested in purchasing a Canyon bike!

    The Ultimate is our lightest road bike. It’s stiff, responsive and ideal for climbing.

    The Endurace is also a great bike but the geometry is a little more relaxed with a shorter top tube and taller head tube and designed more around comfort. Great for those training rides and long days in the saddle!

    Whichever bike you decide to go for we do have a 30 day stem and handlebar exchange so if you feel you want to change these things all you need to do is let us know within 30 days of receiving the bike.

    Please let us know if you have any more questions!

    Thanks,

    CanyonChloe

     

    September 14, 2017 at 6:20 am #902031
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    sm

    Don’t buy the brown bike if
    Don’t buy the brown bike if you don’t like it. The colour of your bike is more important than anything else. If you love your bike you’ll ride it more. Fact!

    I’ve an Ultimate and find it’s not very aggressive geometry wise compared to my old Bianchi. Very comfortable though, even with stem slammed.

    September 12, 2017 at 4:11 pm #902029
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    Scoob_84

    Seriously though, i’m happy

    Seriously though, i’m happy with my Ultimate SLX disc. You can easily run 32mm tires on them. If you ever had the inclination ride over some slightly rougher terrain, you can. 

    September 12, 2017 at 4:08 pm #902027
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    Scoob_84

    Cough up an extra £200 and go

    Cough up an extra £200 and go for the Aeroad SLX 8.0 disc

    September 12, 2017 at 3:10 pm #902025
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    David Arthur @davearthur

    sounds like the Ultimate then

    sounds like the Ultimate then! I’d not worry about the different spec frame, you’re really not going to notice it unless you ride both side-by-side, but you will notice the Di2 and no handlebar hassle

    September 12, 2017 at 2:40 pm #902023
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    GavinC

    Thanks all….for cirac the

    Thanks all….for cirac the same budget Im considering

    1) Ultimate SL….in dodgy brown! But with Di2……colour is marmitey? Assertive geometry

    2) Endurace…slightly less assertive and likely need to get aerobars returned (especially as I’m in the middle of S/M) and better wheels,  but no Di2 option for the future.

    Pain in the neck being nice to my LBS for new handlebar fitting!!

     

    Clear now that I cant go wrong witheither- Ultimate SL needs no work (as Di2 and no handlebar change) = Head

    Endurace colour and higher spec frame–but limited di2 and stem changes etc……= Heart!!

     

    Have you Endurace/ Ultimate owners enjoyed your decision- no regrets?

    Cheers

     

    September 12, 2017 at 11:35 am #902021
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    David Arthur @davearthur

    There are a few other

    There are a few other differences between the two models to consider as well. The Endurace comes with wider tyres, good for comfort if you’re racing, and that model comes with the VCLS seatpost which makes a noticeable impact on seated comfort.

    The H31 Ergocockpit bar also makes a noticeable contribution to the smooth ride of this bike. Not that the Ultimate is a harsh ride, it isn’t, but it’s not as smooth as the Endurace. Depends on whether that’s important to you.

    You’re also comparing an Ultimate SL to an Endurace SLX, small difference but the SLX frames are slightly lighter on account of a higher grade of carbon used in the construction

     

    I never found the Endurace wanting in its raciness. The geo is certainly closer to a race bike than many other endurance bikes on the market right now

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