Anyone with real life experience with these tyres?

Was sick of getting punctures

Was sick of getting punctures in winter on Gatorskins so got some Conti GatorHardshells, had them on for less then 400 miles & got a big split in the rear tyre yesterday.

Fortunately it didn’t blow out & fortunately I was round the corner from home but it’s very disappointing for a tyre that’s supposed to offer increased puncture protection.

I’ll probably get another as maybe I was just a wee bit unlucky but it’s frustrating nonetheless.

wycombewheeler wrote:

One in ten rides gets a puncture?  Are you sure you’re fitting a tyre over your tubes?

I ride six days a week, in all weathers, over very mediocre roads and cover between 4 and 5000 thousand miles a year.  I’ve averaged less than one flat per year for as long as I can remember, .

Same here.  Been commuting (urban roads and shared-use, muddy riverside paths, usual sort of thing, all weathers, almost always weighted down with panniers or a big bag) for nearly six years.  In all that time, I’ve had – I think – about five punctures (and one of them was actually a sidewall tear).

(Oh god, I’ve done it now haven’t I?      )

peted76 wrote:

wycombewheeler wrote:

mike the bike wrote:

If you do puncture out in the countryside and the tyre needs topping up some are a nightmare to re-inflate.  Fitting a tube means you’ve got to carry one, negating one of the advantages of the system.  I recently passed a rider with just this problem, his mini-pump wouldn’t even begin to put air in the tyre and I wasn’t giving him my spare tube as I had another ninety miles to ride.

The sealants have a definite and short life in the tyre and will need renewing every few months.  They’re not cheap and the job is messy, messy, messy.

The sealants will also bung up your valves, making inflating tricky or even impossible.

Yes you still need a tube as sealing a tyre even with a track pump will need soapy water and is not something I would attempt by the road. but the benefit is not saving the weight of a tube, it’s in having to stop for a puncture once in 100 rides (or fewer) instead of once in 10. I recently fitted a tubeless, there was almost zero mess, small bottle of sealant with a nozzle that fitted into the valve (core removed) empty sealant into pre sealed tyre, (fit and seal empty then deflate, fill then reinflate.) I went with schwalbe s ones. very happy with them.

 

Wycomewheeler is doing it wrong. However saying that tubeless can be tricky to get right in my experience, where as tubes are always very simple. 

I run tubeless and have done for nearly two years now, I’ve never fitted a tube on the side of the road, I’ve not the patience and I’d rather call the family taxi. What I do carry, is a small half filled bottle of bontrager sealant (the best for high pressure road tyres in my experience) and an air cannister, it’s easy to pop the valve out, refill sealant and inflate if it’s required in an emergency. 

To be fair I should probably get a mini pump instead of the cannister as pressurised air shouldn’t ideally be used with sealant, but it’s a quick fix, light and easy to carry.

 

doing what wrong? initial set up, or roadside repairs? i haven’t had to make any repairs since going tubeless, but throwing more sealant into a tube to fix a hole the existing sealant is unable to seems pretty optimisitic to me. I’m not carrying a tube on my commutes now or if I go out for just a short ride (60-90mins), I do carry one on the club ride (would be too embaressing to ask for one) or audax rides (where i would be too far from anywhere). 

mike the bike wrote:

wycombewheeler wrote:

 

…..  but the benefit is not saving the weight of a tube, it’s in having to stop for a puncture once in 100 rides (or fewer) instead of once in 10……

One in ten rides gets a puncture?  Are you sure you’re fitting a tyre over your tubes?

I ride six days a week, in all weathers, over very mediocre roads and cover between 4 and 5000 thousand miles a year.  I’ve averaged less than one flat per year for as long as I can remember, .

Chlitern flints.

if i was looking at one replacement tube a year I wouldn’t have bothered. It’s not just me either. I would say on club rides (group of 8, probably 2 in 5 rides will be interupted by someone having a puncture.) . Everyone carries two tubes as getting two punctures in the same ride is not unknown.

4 seasons are definitely

4 seasons are definitely overrated I think
Michelin Pro 4 would be better for punctures

riotgibbon wrote:

tried out my new Gravel King 32’s  

far better on muddy tracks than S-Ones, but I don’t think as fast on the road. Have to get some more commuting miles in to really know about the road, but they’ve handled great off-road in some fairly sloshy conditions. Not slow on the road, just not as fast as S-Ones

First puncture on Gravel King”s, after about 90 miles, 20 of which off road. The Hollow Crown ….

Had an abolsute hoot on

Had an abolsute hoot on Friday.  Went geocaching off-road with the boys from Stolen Goat.

Rode the Tifosi TK7 Gran Fondo fitted with the S-Ones.  https://www.facebook.com/BikeSwanky/posts/456445177812561

Up to 6″ of mud in places, slippery roots, ice, frozen hoof prints, slippery roots.  More importantly, plenty of gorse bushes around!  The S-ones handled it with no issues!  No punctures!  Running with tubes.  Who’d have thought?!?!?

Also, the TK7 Gran Fondo was designed before Gravel Road became a thing…….who knew that it could handle it so well? 🙂  LOL

(It was fitted with a steel fork)

So, if you were wondering if the S-Ones would work well as good Winter on the road tyres, then I’d have to say “I’m sold” 🙂

Schwalbe S-One Tubless for me

Schwalbe S-One Tubless for me too on the winter bike. Best winter tyres I’ve ever used. They have/are changing name to G-One Speed though as you say. No difference in the tyre though as far as I’m aware. They offer a wired non tubeless version of the tyre too  and they’re only £20. Run tubeless though if your wheels allow.

Tannus  LOL  http://www

Tannus 🙂  LOL  http://www.thesolidtyre.com/