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  • November 18, 2016 at 12:27 pm #882019
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    nowasps
    ClubSmed wrote:
    My main gripe with Dyson is those Airblades. They may be good (?) at drying hands but are useless at drying hair yet are placed in many rest rooms with shower facilities (including some offices where I work).

     

    If you can’t be bothered to squeeze your head down into the slot, you don’t deserve hair.

    November 18, 2016 at 12:17 pm #882017
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    ClubSmed
    P3t3 wrote:
    My main issue with this paper hat is that it diesn’t even look like it would work very well within the limited remit of a plastic hat, hit the pavement with your head in that and it’ll just flop off.  

    A very good point, if the fit isn’t right then they could well be completely ineffective. Hopefully this and the issue of how prone it is to the British weather will have been or will be ironed out in the current design phase.

    P3t3 wrote:
    If bike hire schemes are safe then they don’t need plastic hats, if they are dangerous enough that they need PPE then they should rip them out and forget about it.  As it is the councils have put the cart before the horse on this one, providing the vehicles but nowehere safe to ride them.

    Does that mean that because cars are fitted with safety equipment that the car share schemes that the councils allow also shouldn’t exist until they improve the infrastructure enought to remove all congestion that contributes to accidents?

    P3t3 wrote:
    As for Dyson – if he can design something that works and dosent produce a million decibels of noise and I might respect him.  

    My main gripe with Dyson is those Airblades. They may be good (?) at drying hands but are useless at drying hair yet are placed in many rest rooms with shower facilities (including some offices where I work).

    November 18, 2016 at 11:52 am #882015
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    P3t3

    My main issue with this paper

    My main issue with this paper hat is that it diesn’t even look like it would work very well within the limited remit of a plastic hat, hit the pavement with your head in that and it’ll just flop off.  

    If bike hire schemes are safe then they don’t need plastic hats, if they are dangerous enough that they need PPE then they should rip them out and forget about it.  As it is the councils have put the cart before the horse on this one, providing the vehicles but nowehere safe to ride them.  

    As for Dyson – if he can design something that works and dosent produce a million decibels of noise and I might respect him.  

    November 18, 2016 at 11:44 am #882013
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    ClubSmed wrote:
    CygnusX1 wrote:
    On the road, my risk of a head injury is roughly equivalent to that of a pedestrian and far lower than that of a car driver/passenger [plenty of studies to back this up] so rationally, if the risk of head injury whilst in a metal box does not warrant a magic lid, then neither does any less risky activities.

    My assumption is that airbags started to be fitted to cars to reduce the risk of head injuries and that helmets would not be practical in such situations as the is not always the head clearance in a car to wear head gear. 

    Aye, this, which does get mentioned – then seemingly forgotten – most times it comes up. Motor vehicles already do have elements designed to prevent or mitigate head injuries – air bags, curtain / side bags and to a lesser extent seat-belts as well. Whether that’s a good thing overal, e.g. risk compensation, is another matter.

    I don’t care if cyclists decide to wear, or not wear, helmets and am vehermently opposed to compulsion but if we could at least not drag up this particular issue each time without context I would be a much happier man.

    November 18, 2016 at 11:21 am #882011
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    ClubSmed
    CygnusX1 wrote:
    On the road, my risk of a head injury is roughly equivalent to that of a pedestrian and far lower than that of a car driver/passenger [plenty of studies to back this up] so rationally, if the risk of head injury whilst in a metal box does not warrant a magic lid, then neither does any less risky activities.

    My assumption is that airbags started to be fitted to cars to reduce the risk of head injuries and that helmets would not be practical in such situations as the is not always the head clearance in a car to wear head gear. On the bike however, I believe we have the opposite problem of nowhere to reasonably place an airbag but plenty of headroom to allow wearing head gear.

    November 18, 2016 at 10:39 am #882009
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    CygnusX1

    Mungecrundle wrote:

    Mungecrundle wrote:
    Got to say that I’m half with Python on this one. Cycling in town should not be seen as a dangerous activity requiring protective equipment and this is surely the environment where such a disposable helmet would be used, e.g casual cylce hire schemes. The better risk mitigation is to provide proper infrastructure and reduce use of motor vehicles.

    Got to say I’m 100% with SuperPython on this one. Cycling in town should not be seen as is not a dangerous activity requiring protective equipment.

    I’m not anti-helmet; I do own a polystyrene hat, but only wear it off road when mucking about on jumps and singletrack on the MTB, but I also wear other protective gear to protect myself from my own stupidy / lack of skills.  The likely impact velocities are also likely to be within the design parameters of bike helmets.

    On the road, my risk of a head injury is roughly equivalent to that of a pedestrian and far lower than that of a car driver/passenger [plenty of studies to back this up] so rationally, if the risk of head injury whilst in a metal box does not warrant a magic lid, then neither does any less risky activities.

    However, lets assume for the moment the risk of head impact is 100% (you wil;l fall and bang your head), then I suspect this paper honeycomb structure may actually be better at absorbing the impact than polystyrene (most photos of helmets “that saved my life” seem to have split rather than the polystyrene crushing as it is intended).

    Even if it doesn’t, then the shape of this folding paper helmet is prefect for covering in tin-foil smiley

     

    November 18, 2016 at 9:38 am #882007
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    fukawitribe
    freebsd_frank wrote:
    His firm’s the crApple of the consumer goods market.

     

    Gets out old TheRegister Commentard Bingo Sheet and marker pen… *

     

    * ..although I agree with sentiment..

    November 18, 2016 at 9:25 am #882005
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    Mungecrundle wrote:

    Mungecrundle wrote:
    Got to say that I’m half with Python on this one. Cycling in town should not be seen as a dangerous activity requiring protective equipment and this is surely the environment where such a disposable helmet would be used, e.g casual cylce hire schemes. The better risk mitigation is to provide proper infrastructure and reduce use of motor vehicles.

    When I cycle on the roads on my commute to work (which is fairly well serviced by a cycle hire scheme) I would say that it is dangerous and should be seen as such. There are far too many cars pulling out on me at junctions because they are running late and think they should chance it (I assume) and drivers opening doors without looking for cyclists.

    I know that the issue is a lack of proper infrastructure and education and that definitely needs to be addressed (and is to some extent). However, even if all the measures needed were set into motion today it would be decades realistically before we see the entirety of the positive results so in the interim we still need other temporary fixes like this in place.

    Just my humble opinion.

     

    November 18, 2016 at 9:18 am #882003
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    Natrix

    Don’t forget the desk fans

    Don’t forget the desk fans for £200 or more

    November 18, 2016 at 9:16 am #882001
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    Andreeoouu

    Do we really have to resort

    Do we really have to resort to the use of the f-word to get our opinions across?

    Innovation requires trial and error. Some things are good, some not.

     

    November 18, 2016 at 9:03 am #881999
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    Man of Lard wrote:
    In 2016 a design award from a chap who moved his manufacturing operations to Malaysia from Malmesbury.

     

    Excuse me for not being excited on any level.

    Dyson is also the fuckwit who’s “engineers” managed to design a £400 hairdryer, when you can get another make for less than a tenth of that which does the job just as well.

     

    His firm’s the crApple of the consumer goods market.

     

    November 18, 2016 at 7:56 am #881997
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    Man of Lard

    So in 2009 this similar idea

    So in 2009 this similar idea attracted ridicule – http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/06/29/no-stiff-helmet-for-my-head-please/

     

    In 2016 a design award from a chap who moved his manufacturing operations to Malaysia from Malmesbury.

     

    Excuse me for not being excited on any level.

    November 18, 2016 at 7:28 am #881995
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    Mungecrundle

    Got to say that I’m half with
    Got to say that I’m half with Python on this one. Cycling in town should not be seen as a dangerous activity requiring protective equipment and this is surely the environment where such a disposable helmet would be used, e.g casual cylce hire schemes. The better risk mitigation is to provide proper infrastructure and reduce use of motor vehicles.

    November 17, 2016 at 11:58 am #881993
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    ClubSmed wrote:

    ClubSmed wrote:
    I have long wondered why no-one has invented a cheap diaposable helmet for cycle share schemes

    They have them in Melbourne.  Though I suspect they are polystyrene so not very green

    http://www.melbournebikeshare.com.au/helmet-locations

    November 17, 2016 at 10:14 am #881991
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    ClubSmed

    unconstituted wrote:

    unconstituted wrote:

    Just no to anything disposible. We have tons of helmets already. Stick them in a locker and let people rent and return with the bike. We don’t need to be making more crap. They are not ‘environmentally friendly’, unless they’re organically grown on location. 

     

    Room 101 with these, and those ridiculous coffee pods.


    I agree on the coffee pod front.
    On the helmet front I’m not sure how much people would want to hire a helmet that’s still wet from the previous users sweat….
    These are recyclable rather than just disposable and far better than any alternative I can come up with.

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