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  • April 27, 2016 at 9:10 pm #25661
    TJMakosz

    Hi All 

    New hear and pretty new to forums, apparently it’s custom to just say a little something about myself before asking questions or responding to questions posed? I’m 34, 95kg down from 105 since starting cycling, have a Scott Speedster 10 and I’ve only been cycling on the road since February, I ride 100km a week and I’m really enjoying myself. 

    My question is this, what is the correct way to acknowledge/great fellow cyclist whist out on the road? Coming from a motorcycle back ground where it is customary to acknowledge other riders with a head tilt/nod and you 99% of the time get the same gesture back! How ever I’ve tried this with other cyclist and never received a response, only a look as to say I’m crazy. So I’ve tried raising my hand in a little wave, again met with the same response. So then I thought I’d just say Hi/Morning/Afternoon but alas I have only ever had one person say hi back!!!. To be honest I find it incredibly rude and I think I must be missing something. 

    Am I missing something or is just customary for cyclist to ignore each other as we are competing against each other ( out on my Sunday ride) 

    any thoughts  

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  • May 1, 2016 at 11:50 am #870811
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    Chuck

    Can’t say I’ve ever noticed

    Can’t say I’ve ever noticed any correlation between expensive bikes/kit and rudeness. Mostly seems to exist in the minds of inverse snobs I ssupect.

    May 1, 2016 at 11:27 am #870809
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    StuInNorway

    When out and about when I

    When out and about when I pass a cyclist and there is eye contact, there’s always a gentle nod and a smile to acknowledge the other.  Those cycling in a group for a club ride, or alone tend to respond, however those riding together with 1 or 2 others from a club, are generally so time focussed they ignore the rest of the world.  One of our local clubs is worse than the others, and it seems they as a club are aiming to get all teh KOMs on Strava in our area.  

     

    Most are pretty decent and will recognise other cyclists..

    May 1, 2016 at 10:33 am #870807
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    Jacobi
    Gstev68 wrote:
    I am nearly always clad in Rapha on a bike worth more than my talent deserves.

    I nearly always weigh a bit more than I should.

    I nearly always raise a hand, nod or “good morning” to fellow cyclists passing in either direction.

    I nearly always don’t care if my gesture is reciprocated.

    I nearly always pause to check if someone apparently stuck needs help.

    I nearly always get irritated by sweeping generalisations and behaviours associated with stereotypes that aren’t true but seem to get perpetuated by half-thought opinions on social media.

    I nearly always try not to judge people by their behaviour but judge me by my own.

    Somtimes I may do something that irritates someone else or makes me look like a c**k.  I nearly always didn’t mean to but I am human and sometimes make mistakes.  What it doesn’t mean is that everyone else who looks like me, is the same age as me, wears the same gear as me, rides the same bike as me  or drives the same car as me will make that same mistake all the time!

    Haha. Good post Gstev68.

    So much is it ingrained in me, that even when I’m out walking I nearly always raise a hand or nod to any passing cyclists.

    May 1, 2016 at 8:19 am #870805
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    Gstev68

    I am nearly always clad in

    I am nearly always clad in Rapha on a bike worth more than my talent deserves.

    I nearly always weigh a bit more than I should.

    I nearly always raise a hand, nod or “good morning” to fellow cyclists passing in either direction.

    I nearly always don’t care if my gesture is reciprocated.

    I nearly always pause to check if someone apparently stuck needs help.

    I nearly always get irritated by sweeping generalisations and behaviours associated with stereotypes that aren’t true but seem to get perpetuated by half-thought opinions on social media.

    I nearly always try not to judge people by their behaviour but judge me by my own.

    Somtimes I may do something that irritates someone else or makes me look like a c**k.  I nearly always didn’t mean to but I am human and sometimes make mistakes.  What it doesn’t mean is that everyone else who looks like me, is the same age as me, wears the same gear as me, rides the same bike as me  or drives the same car as me will make that same mistake all the time!

    May 1, 2016 at 8:04 am #870803
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    Shouldbeinbed

    Generally yes, I even talk to
    Generally yes, I even talk to people if the oppprtunity arises.

    Certainly more often on a bike than to other people on the bus, or to people I happen to be passing who are also wearing spectacles or blue Adidas Samba shoes or whatever.

    Basically do your own thing and don’t get hung up on other people reciprocating or not.

    April 30, 2016 at 10:48 pm #870801
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    aladdin pain

    I wave or nod so often that I

    I wave or nod so often that I actually annoy myself, but I was raised that way.  Re: all- or almost all black, that’s me, head-to-toe and bike too.  I don’t think I’m especially cool.  I just like it very much.  But mine’s mostly Twin Six and Morvelo.

    April 30, 2016 at 8:59 pm #870799
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    Flying Scot
    unconstituted wrote:
    Flying Scot wrote:
    unconstituted wrote:
    Flying Scot wrote:
    sergius wrote:
    I usually just raise my hand in acknowledgement of their presence, I’m entirely disinterested in whether it’s reciprocated – though most people do.

     

    me too, I don’t even look for a response. I’m in my 40’s and we have always done this, albeit in hills these days you see 10 times as many people as compared to ‘pre-Wiggins’ 

    I have noted though, on the odd time I do look, that those all in black with Castelli seem to acknowledge no one.

     

    I was in all black Castelli this morning. Waving and saying morning to everyone though.

     

    Wonder how many stereotypes actually hold up to scrutiny!

     

     

     

     

    do do you have a beard?

     

    No mate, no beard.

    its just the all black Castelli ignorami also have beards. And when I say all black I mean helmet, gloves, shoes , frame the lot. I have black Castelli myself in all honesty but don’t have any all black helmets or shies.

     

    might be slightly stereo typical……!

     

     

    and don’t get me started on badly behaved club runs, thankfully round my way it’s only two or three that are persistent twats, try and run you off the road and the last man doesn’t make himself known ….then they all stop in front of you…..

    April 30, 2016 at 6:56 pm #870797
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    esnifador

    I generally smile and nod

    I generally smile and nod with a small accompanying wave, and more often than not get some sort of response – I seldom actually say anything to cyclists coming the other way, but lots of people do. I’d say it’s more common for people out on a ‘proper bike ride’ to greet me as opposed to more casual cyclists (though I’m much closer to the latter end of the spectrum), but it really is a mixed bag. I’m certainly guilty of silent wheelsucking on occasion, though the last time I did offer to take a turn at the front I was promptly windblasted back into oblivion, so my companion eschewed any further ‘assistance’ and pressed on, while I tried and failed to get back onto his wheel. Oh well.

    It’s always nice to be acknowledged by others, even if it’s a cursory nod. The same applies when I’m out running, although reciprocal greetings are much rarer then, so on the whole I’d say cyclists are a pretty friendly bunch.

    April 30, 2016 at 6:13 pm #870795
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    Jacobi

    I’ve been road cycling for

    I’ve been road cycling for over 50 years. I got my first road bike back in ’62. I’ve always made a point of acknowledging other cyclists with a wave/a nod/ a good morning/afternoon/evening/ hi there – depends on the conditions or what I’m doing what kind of acknowledgement they get. Sometimes a wave is out of the question so it’s a verbal greeting.

    Most tend to reciprocate. I’ve got to say, I never felt the other persons attire, be it Castelli, Rapha, Altura, etc. etc, made any difference as to whether they responded to you, or not. I don’t go in for stereotypes. A couple of guys always in black Castelli (it’s smart, I wish I could afford it) in my area always wave when they see me. There’s a guy I see regularly riding a hybrid who pretends I’m invisible.  Cyclists are either friendly or they aint. You’ll find the grumpy, cheerless types in all walks of life – and a lot of them cycle too.

    April 30, 2016 at 5:24 pm #870793
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    sergius

    Nowt wrong with full Castelli

    Nowt wrong with full Castelli gear, it’s just much better than the DHB stuff I used to buy and I can’t bring myself to pay Rapha prices!

     

    One random etiquette point that really bugs me, people who climb (slowly) two abreast.  I understand the whole riding two abreast thing – though I don’t particularly agree with it.  But doing it on a climb, ignoring faster riders behind you – often forcing cyclists into oncoming traffic / the wrong side of the road – strikes me as bloody rude.

    If you are going to dawdle, then do it single file.

     

    If I pass you when you are riding single file you’ll get a “good morning”, if you are riding double and not paying attention – then it will be a curse “coming through” (the English way of saying get out of my bloody way!).

     

     

    April 30, 2016 at 4:16 pm #870791
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    Chuck

    I sometimes wonder if people

    I sometimes wonder if people just aren’t noticing a little wave or nod or something?

    Whilst people enthusiastically shouting “MORNING!” across the road is pretty rare, I almost never come across anyone who doesn’t make some sort of acknowledgement, although it’s often pretty laconic, like a little bike version of the ‘outback wave’. 

    I pretty much always nod and say “Hey” and that’s it, perhaps it can be missed sometimes?  Or maybe people in the Midlands are friendlier than some other places!

      

    April 30, 2016 at 3:50 pm #870789
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    tritecommentbot
    Flying Scot wrote:
    unconstituted wrote:
    Flying Scot wrote:
    sergius wrote:
    I usually just raise my hand in acknowledgement of their presence, I’m entirely disinterested in whether it’s reciprocated – though most people do.

     

    me too, I don’t even look for a response. I’m in my 40’s and we have always done this, albeit in hills these days you see 10 times as many people as compared to ‘pre-Wiggins’ 

    I have noted though, on the odd time I do look, that those all in black with Castelli seem to acknowledge no one.

     

    I was in all black Castelli this morning. Waving and saying morning to everyone though.

     

    Wonder how many stereotypes actually hold up to scrutiny!

     

     

     

     

    do do you have a beard?

     

    No mate, no beard.

    April 30, 2016 at 3:40 pm #870787
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    Flying Scot
    unconstituted wrote:
    Flying Scot wrote:
    sergius wrote:
    I usually just raise my hand in acknowledgement of their presence, I’m entirely disinterested in whether it’s reciprocated – though most people do.

     

    me too, I don’t even look for a response. I’m in my 40’s and we have always done this, albeit in hills these days you see 10 times as many people as compared to ‘pre-Wiggins’ 

    I have noted though, on the odd time I do look, that those all in black with Castelli seem to acknowledge no one.

     

    I was in all black Castelli this morning. Waving and saying morning to everyone though.

     

    Wonder how many stereotypes actually hold up to scrutiny!

     

     

     

     

    do do you have a beard?

    April 30, 2016 at 2:01 pm #870785
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    tritecommentbot
    Flying Scot wrote:
    sergius wrote:
    I usually just raise my hand in acknowledgement of their presence, I’m entirely disinterested in whether it’s reciprocated – though most people do.

     

    me too, I don’t even look for a response. I’m in my 40’s and we have always done this, albeit in hills these days you see 10 times as many people as compared to ‘pre-Wiggins’ 

    I have noted though, on the odd time I do look, that those all in black with Castelli seem to acknowledge no one.

     

    I was in all black Castelli this morning. Waving and saying morning to everyone though.

     

    Wonder how many stereotypes actually hold up to scrutiny!

     

     

    April 30, 2016 at 12:55 pm #870783
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    Flying Scot
    sergius wrote:
    I usually just raise my hand in acknowledgement of their presence, I’m entirely disinterested in whether it’s reciprocated – though most people do.

     

    me too, I don’t even look for a response. I’m in my 40’s and we have always done this, albeit in hills these days you see 10 times as many people as compared to ‘pre-Wiggins’ 

    I have noted though, on the odd time I do look, that those all in black with Castelli seem to acknowledge no one.

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