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  • April 27, 2016 at 9:10 pm #25661
    TJMakosz

    Hi All 

    New hear and pretty new to forums, apparently it’s custom to just say a little something about myself before asking questions or responding to questions posed? I’m 34, 95kg down from 105 since starting cycling, have a Scott Speedster 10 and I’ve only been cycling on the road since February, I ride 100km a week and I’m really enjoying myself. 

    My question is this, what is the correct way to acknowledge/great fellow cyclist whist out on the road? Coming from a motorcycle back ground where it is customary to acknowledge other riders with a head tilt/nod and you 99% of the time get the same gesture back! How ever I’ve tried this with other cyclist and never received a response, only a look as to say I’m crazy. So I’ve tried raising my hand in a little wave, again met with the same response. So then I thought I’d just say Hi/Morning/Afternoon but alas I have only ever had one person say hi back!!!. To be honest I find it incredibly rude and I think I must be missing something. 

    Am I missing something or is just customary for cyclist to ignore each other as we are competing against each other ( out on my Sunday ride) 

    any thoughts  

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  • April 30, 2016 at 11:51 am #870781
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    Grahamd wrote:
    Forzamark wrote:
    I live is south wales and years ago you used to know by sight most riders and would always wave but since cycling got popular I get blanked a lot more often and I’m more likely to get a hi from a mtber than a roadie. Sad really but now I don’t bother unless I know them or they say hi first. 

     

    I also live in South Wales and find there are 2 distinctive groups, those socialable riders who are out for pleasure and always acknowledge (like myself) and the Strava louts who are so focused on their PRs that they wouldn’t dare change their position and risk loosing time or are so focused they ride past a friend and fail to notice.

     

    An air of tribalism in this post, and an earlier post too regarding people who’re chasing times/fitness. 

     

    Which I think is quite sad. Cyclists have enough grief without having to deal with being labelled louts because you’re out enjoying something you love, like racing your bike, chasing PRs, getting fitter and faster. 

     

    I’d pick out two distinctive groups myself, and they wouldn’t be casual or racers. They’d be judgemental and non-judgemental. 

     

    But life isn’t black and white, it’s a matter of degree and circumstance. People do different things on different days and act diferently and feel differently all the time. Labelling folk is miserable and not what cycling is about. I rarely get a nod back from the guys on TT bikes, but I love seeing them out. It’s class what they’re doing. Love seeing them out as much as the couples rolling around with touring bags at 10mph. It’s all good.

     

    The real ‘louts’ are speeding around in cars shouting at people drunk or stoned.

    April 30, 2016 at 9:56 am #870779
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    Grahamd
    Forzamark wrote:
    I live is south wales and years ago you used to know by sight most riders and would always wave but since cycling got popular I get blanked a lot more often and I’m more likely to get a hi from a mtber than a roadie. Sad really but now I don’t bother unless I know them or they say hi first. 

     

    I also live in South Wales and find there are 2 distinctive groups, those socialable riders who are out for pleasure and always acknowledge (like myself) and the Strava louts who are so focused on their PRs that they wouldn’t dare change their position and risk loosing time or are so focused they ride past a friend and fail to notice.

    April 29, 2016 at 10:19 pm #870777
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    matthewn5

    I always say hello or wave on

    I always say hello or wave on a Sunday morning run. Sometimes returned, depends on how much they’re taking in around them. Also sometimes fail if I’m suffering on a climb too much, apologies to anyone who missed out. Also sometimes if I’m concentrating on the road ahead I might not notice until too late. Also say good morning to joggers, horse riders, gardeners, dog walkers etc. Helps them to realise cyclists are human beings too.

    In London commuting there’s too many people and theyre too busy trying to get to work alive to chat.

     

    I also walk a lot, and me and the other half reckon that the only walkers who don’t say hello or at least nod are those who just walked from the car park. Anyone who’s out for a day walk will say hello. Sometimes quite chatty.

    April 29, 2016 at 7:56 pm #870775
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    srchar

    I often ride in full Rapha

    I often ride in full Rapha gear and wave at other riders, provided that I’m not in London, where you’d never touch the bars. Some people don’t wave back. Ho hum. Maybe it’s because of my choice of jersey, in which case they’re sad.

    I’ve just spent six weeks cycling around Valencia; the custom there is a head nod. The likelihood of the gesture being reciprocated decreased the closer one got to the city.  Up in the mountains, everyone, even walkers, would shout a cheery “buenas” or “animo”.

    Now I’m on Mallorca, surrounded by overweight Brits on rented high-end carbon.

    Nobody waves, but then they’re all wearing Rapha, so what do you exp… oh.

    April 29, 2016 at 5:28 pm #870773
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    Forzamark

    I live is south wales and

    I live is south wales and years ago you used to know by sight most riders and would always wave but since cycling got popular I get blanked a lot more often and I’m more likely to get a hi from a mtber than a roadie. Sad really but now I don’t bother unless I know them or they say hi first. 

    April 29, 2016 at 5:20 pm #870771
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    The _Kaner

    I’d do a quick nod/tip of the

    I’d do a quick nod/tip of the head if the road is of poor surface quality.

    Otherwise it’s a hand/finger raise (index finger) or thumbs up.

    I couldn’t give a toss if the ‘opposition’ is a ‘FKW’ or grumpy peloton of clubmen…I’ll acknowledge everyone..if they deem it’s too much trouble to return the pleasantry…well that’s their problem….

    I’m a lone wolf 99% of the time, Billy No (Club)Mates…and I have discs on my road bike, maybe that’s why they don’t return the salute…

    Of course when I was on that old fashioned rim brake technology it was the same…maybe it’s just me, why!!!, WHYYYY??? WHIIIIYYYYYYYY!!!!

    April 29, 2016 at 10:43 am #870769
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    hawkinspeter

    I usually nod or raise my

    I usually nod or raise my hand in acknowledgement to cyclists going the opposite direction. However, I don’t bother doing so in bigger cities (Bristol mainly) as there’s too many people.

    Most people respond, but I think that I’d rather be the bloke waving and not getting a response than being the bloke waved at and not responding.

    When passing someone on the same side of the road I normally say “Hi” or a similar greeting.

    April 29, 2016 at 9:36 am #870767
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    Jimbomitch

    I think there are people who

    I think there are people who take cycling too seriously, as alluded to above, normally kitted out in expensive gear and riding everywhere like a TT. Me, I enjoy my rides and take great pleasure in being outdoors, where able I greet all cyclists, horse riders, walkers etc with  Good Morning. Treat others as you expect to be treated.

    April 28, 2016 at 8:34 pm #870765
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    multimodal

    I always nod or wave. Unless

    I always nod or wave. Unless I’m on my sit up and beg, then I tip my cap and say a hearty, “good day.” 

    April 28, 2016 at 8:16 pm #870763
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    allanj

    Nod and/or wave depending on

    Nod and/or wave depending on state of suffering/need to hold on to bars compulsory

     

    April 28, 2016 at 8:10 pm #870761
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    hsiaolc

    When someone says hi to me I

    When someone says hi to me I always say hi back. 

     

     

    April 28, 2016 at 7:57 pm #870759
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    bigshape

    always nice to give a wave
    always nice to give a wave off the hoods or a nod of the head. a couple of miles of my commute are along a shared path and I have quite a few regular people on bikes and walking dogs etc. who I’ll always say good morning to, it brightens up the morning a bit I think! also stopped a few times to help people with mechanicals. I’d like to think others would do the same if I was in a similar position. however, I did stop to help someone push their broken down car a couple of weeks ago after watching about 15 cars just drive past, and put my back out! serves me right for helping a driver out!

    April 28, 2016 at 7:23 pm #870757
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    Velo_Dom

    It’s disappointing to hear

    It’s disappointing to hear you have had little response to your greetings. I try to acknowldge every other bicycle user I pass, mostly with a acknowlegment in return.

    It may be, as othersr have suggested, the area which you are riding in. Genrally speaking though I find cyclists are an amicable bunch, so dont be disheartened. (I never am when ignored) 

    Also welocome to road.cc and kudos on the weight loss good man, keep on spinning.

     

     

    April 28, 2016 at 12:31 pm #870755
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    MoutonDeMontagne

    I always tend to give nod of

    I always tend to give nod of the head, or a wave of the hand from the hoods, bit like you do in the car. Sometimes i’ll say hi or take the hand off the bars and give a propper wave. Just think its polite and friendly, we’re all riding for the same reason. I also like being the person in full Castelli who DOES wave! The SE does seem less friendly than the north, but then thats the same whether walking to work, driving, climbing or just walking into a pub on your own. 

    April 28, 2016 at 10:35 am #870753
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    giff77

    Had been mulling this over

    Had been mulling this over the other day myself. Now that winter is out of the way and weather a bit more settled (some regions). I’ve noticed a lot more bike traffic. The other day I gave up waving/nodding to other guys it was really annoying. I came to the conclusion that it was due to my cycling a bike with flat bars, full guards and being san helmet. (The road bike not out yet as still too much salt on the roads).  After passing a bloke who had markedly blanked me, he caught up at a junction and then remarked ‘oh, didn’t realise you were on fixed’ On another occasion was trying to figure out a mechanical and six guys passed and none stopped (that’s another thread though) I’ve found that the only ones who acknowledge are the old timers and the ones who are out all the year round. 

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