Is pro cycling finished

ianrobo wrote:daddyELVIS

ianrobo wrote:

daddyELVIS wrote:

ianrobo wrote:

This is the official reason that Kreuziger got away with it, anyone would know the thyroid ‘problem’ is something the BBC exposed …

Earlier this week iDNES Sport reported that Kreuziger’s tests showed that the changes in his biological passport values were due to extreme physical exertion combined with hypothyroidism, which he treats with a synthetic hormone L-Thyroxine.

Another example of TUE abuse!

yep had this discussion a while back but if you are not fit enough to ride, you do not if a TUE is needed. it said he needed the TUE for ‘extreme physical exertion’ FFS thats the sport and if not got enough for it, tough …

…but they’re all doped to some extent – some full-on, some using TUE grey areas (i.e. Legal doping), so no completely clean rider will have ‘enough’ to pull at the front of a top-class peloton. It’s the same in most top-class sports, and horse-racing too! It’s the way it is – it’s an industry! – developed over many generations to where it is today. How you reverse it, who knows? Certainly not by banning the odd athlete here and there, and not by making one huge athlete a scape-goat and announcing a ‘new clean era’ for everything tha came after! It’s a very complex issue, and a lot would need to come out in the open to even start to address it – but, anyone with a modicum of common-sense knows that top-level sport cannot be made up of athletes with a genuine need for asthma & thyroid drugs. What happened to all the athletes with 100% health? – come on, this can’t get better until we all stop pretending!

ianrobo wrote:This is the

ianrobo wrote:

This is the official reason that Kreuziger got away with it, anyone would know the thyroid ‘problem’ is something the BBC exposed …

Earlier this week iDNES Sport reported that Kreuziger’s tests showed that the changes in his biological passport values were due to extreme physical exertion combined with hypothyroidism, which he treats with a synthetic hormone L-Thyroxine.

Another example of TUE abuse!

hsiaolc wrote:stumps

hsiaolc wrote:

stumps wrote:

Do you not watch big movies or top tv programmes either as a lot of the “A-list” actors take illegal substances and alcohol or do you all turn a blind eye to that ?????????

Hmmm not very logical thinker here or lack of IQ?

Actors take illegal substances or and alcohol doesn’t make them act better or give them an edge against other actors. If anything other actors would love the others to kill themselves with drugs and alcohol.

I was actually being petty just like most of the comments on here, obvious your IQ was not upto understanding that. So i’ll make it simpler for you –

“SHIT HAPPENS” so why get uptight about something you have no control over, now did you understand that.

Quote:You are not going to

You are not going to get someone doing EPO for a local 4th.

Look at the US Masters riders who have been busted for PEDs.

Then again, look at the use of Testosterone in the US generally as an antidote to that condition that the rest of the world calls ‘getting older’.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/masters-racer-leduc-admits-to-doping

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/us-masters-rider-suspended-for-doping

http://yougotdropped.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/ygd-response-to-doping-masters-riderwe.html

http://www.bendsource.com/bend/riding-dirty-doping-in-amateur-cycling-hits-central-oregon/Content?oid=2185999

Oh what a happy group you
Oh what a happy group you are.

All sportsmen / women are drugs cheats, all football fans are thick as mince…..

If you dont like it, dont watch it. Personally i dont give a shite if someone is using drugs, i watch something because its enjoyable, fun or i get a buzz out of it.

Do you not watch big movies or top tv programmes either as a lot of the “A-list” actors take illegal substances and alcohol or do you all turn a blind eye to that ?????????

Kadinkski wrote:“I believe

Kadinkski wrote:

“I believe that it is currently difficult to be among the top five in the world in any of the distance events without using EPO or human growth hormone. While some of the top athletes may be clean, so many athletes are running so fast that their performances are suspect”

Alberto Salazar, 2001

Now, 15 years later, I believe it would be accurate to change “difficult” to “impossible” and “the top 5” to “the top 20%” and “distance events” to “any sport”.

So, just to really nail this down, you’re saying that 20% of the top professional cyclists are using EPO or HGH ?

It’s no different to the
It’s no different to the situation in track and field athletics, and just about any form of pro sport, where money / sponsorship is involved. Cycling is ‘zeitgeist’ right now, the spotlight is on it like never before. It’s been going on since big money got involved, let them get on with it. Whether it’s a case of a two tier ‘dopers’ vs ‘no dopers’ thing or not, as long as I’m seeing crazy arsed sprints, and shit scary 60mph descents, I’m happy.