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January 31, 2015 at 5:34 pm #23145
ianrobo
Interesting article – http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/01/tour-of-flanders-to-trial-disc-brakes/
When choosing my new bike I tried a disc brake one and did not like it. Think they are ugly and I am very comfortable with caliber brakes. However they have to sell us something new and this is it.
Once the pro peloton has them then callipers (except for Campag of course) will slowly die out at the top and medium end bikes.
Is it progress ?
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mrmo
the discussion about disc
the discussion about disc brakes is pointless, it is happening accept it and move on.Plenty whinged about the change to 6/7/8/9/10/11, plenty of whinging about 26/650/29, for most the changes are pretty pointless but they will happen.
Discs have benefits, but they also have drawbacks, and it doesn’t matter because within 5 years any decent bike made will come with discs and within 10 getting decent calliper brakes will become a problem.
By then the debate will have changed to do we really need 14 sprockets or similar.
jacknorell
I like to be able to stop,
I like to be able to stop, right now, in any condition, without arm cramp.You can use what you like, but if you’re on calipers, please don’t ride my back wheel.
Of course I will be using
Of course I will be using discs on my next bike, that is almost inevitable. Glad to see he thinks I have a low IQ, must wonder how I survived in life eh ?For my new bike I had the choice of the two but the disc were on a more expensive 2015 version of the same bike and I did not think it justified the cost.
Who knows in 3/4 years time what the situation will be then ? Technology moves so quick only a fool is glued to one tech over another. I a real comfortable using callipers, never had an issue and despite doing 7K on my bike last year never even had to change the pads.
Reg Molehusband
I had rim brakes on my old
I had rim brakes on my old mountain bike and I hated them, especially in the wet. I agree with previous comments that they’re crude technology. The disc brakes on my current (Genesis) road bike are fantastic. When I was looking for a new bike I never even considered one with rim brakes. It wasn’t easy finding the right bike,. Very few of the local bike shops had any on display. I even had one dealer tell me I didn’t need disc brakes. Now that the technology is available and improving all the time, disc brakes are the future – in my opinion. It won’t be long before all the pro riders are using them.
portec
hsiaolc wrote:fukawitribe
hsiaolc wrote:fukawitribe wrote:Do you mind if ask but.. did you not like them because you were ‘comfortable’ with rim brakes and thought the discs were ugly , or because you thought they weren’t good brakes ? Your bike so your choice, but just interested.Who cares what he likes or not? He is one of those who I consider IQ of zero and worst is that a few more years down the line he will be using one with disc brakes.
Easy now, hsiaolc. He only asked a question. No need to resort to personal abuse. Sheesh, the disc brake debate is deteriorating into the same religious, vitrioloc shout-fest as the helmet debate. Let’s just try to discuss this in a mature, civilised manner, as most folks on here have been.portec
Simon E wrote:My next road
Simon E wrote:My next road bike is going to be disc braked regardless of what the professionals ride.
For many of us it’s not about “what the professionals ride”. And the implication of vanity being the reason we choose certain technology because the pros use it is not true in the case of disc brakes either. It’s about the UCI rules. Those rules apply to everybody who races at any level. Even as a has-been cat 3 racer nowadays I don’t have the option of buying a bike with discs if I want to race.Personally I like the idea of disc brakes and when the industry gets close to deciding on a standard that will help. Although I think we’ll always have changing standards as we do for bottom brackets. But by far the biggest reason for disc brakes not being more widely adopted is UCI rules.
unistriker
sounds cool, I agree, there
sounds cool, I agree, there are no massive mountains in the west midlands. I would prefer the aesthetics of smaller rotors over the heat dissipation of larger rotors.Smallest i see you can buy is 140mm? still seems too large.
Argos74
Dunno about the pro peleton –
Dunno about the pro peleton – maybe, maybe not. They do different rides than me. I don’t wear running spikes when I’m running either.For me and my rides, hell yes. Currently on hydraulics, 3 bikes before that were mechanical discs. These days I swear by my brakes rather than at them. Especially when going down bendy hills on wet roads. Reliable, consistent, controllable stopping power.
Is it progress? For the pros, I’ll let them decide, for the commuter and year round rider, they’re an absolute godsend.
hsiaolc
unistriker wrote:If disc
unistriker wrote:If disc brakes are the future, what is he smallest rotor size possible?
On cars massive rotors look amazing, see the camaro z28 brembo brakes at 394 mm. Big rotors on mountain bikes look okay.
Big rotors on road bikes look a bit off.I have been using the shimano R785 for months now for 5 months and the disc size seems more than adequate. Its not like a mountain bike where you might be going down hill and constantly hard braking. I don’t live in the alps and in London you hardly need to be braking over 4 or 5 seconds (discs brakes fast) so I don’t see the discs needs to be very big. I am extremely happy with the disc size so far. No point going smaller if the gain is not amount to much.
If disc brakes are the
If disc brakes are the future, what is he smallest rotor size possible?
On cars massive rotors look amazing, see the camaro z28 brembo brakes at 394 mm. Big rotors on mountain bikes look okay.
Big rotors on road bikes look a bit off.sergius wrote:I’m just
sergius wrote:I’m just waiting for people like Canyon to get with the programme and release a bike with disc brakes.My next bike needs to be hydraulic discs + Ultegra Di2. Once someone puts together a decent package with those two at around the £3k mark I suspect they will do very well.
I’ve got the cash for my next bike just sitting there waiting, but no way I’m upgrading to something that’s not a major step forward from my current bike.
Back more on topic, I was horrified at the brakes on my road bike when I switched from MTB to road. I recall a particularly wet Wiggle Up and Downs sportive last year – it felt dangerous doing a number of the descents in that atrocious weather with caliper brakes.
I waited for Canyon for few years. Have emailed them to get on with the program but still no show. I ended up with Rose Xeon DX with Di2 and Shimano Hydro disc. I love my ride.
Same here I cam from MTB to road and felt the caliper way too dangerous on the road when in the wet. I can tell you that I am a lot more confident on the road with braking and every time I get into a tight situation it reminds me it used to make me sweat that I might end up injured on the road.
fukawitribe wrote:Do you mind
fukawitribe wrote:Do you mind if ask but.. did you not like them because you were ‘comfortable’ with rim brakes and thought the discs were ugly , or because you thought they weren’t good brakes ? Your bike so your choice, but just interested.Who cares what he likes or not? He is one of those who I consider IQ of zero and worst is that a few more years down the line he will be using one with disc brakes.
Like another said disc is far superior than caliper. I commute to work and I can assure you after I switched to disc (something I waited for years) and finally done so it is light and day. Now braking gives me a smile on my face.
I’m just waiting for people
I’m just waiting for people like Canyon to get with the programme and release a bike with disc brakes.My next bike needs to be hydraulic discs + Ultegra Di2. Once someone puts together a decent package with those two at around the £3k mark I suspect they will do very well.
I’ve got the cash for my next bike just sitting there waiting, but no way I’m upgrading to something that’s not a major step forward from my current bike.
Back more on topic, I was horrified at the brakes on my road bike when I switched from MTB to road. I recall a particularly wet Wiggle Up and Downs sportive last year – it felt dangerous doing a number of the descents in that atrocious weather with caliper brakes.
crikey
I wish that they’d get on
I wish that they’d get on with it to stop all the bloody whinging about discs; I fail to see why it’s such an interesting subject.
It’s a different way of slowing down; why all the fuss?
Simon E
joemmo wrote:Same here. I
joemmo wrote:Same here. I won’t buy another bike with rim brakes. As an engineering solution they are only one step above jamming your foot onto the tyre to slow the bike down. Ok, maybe 2 steps but still a pretty crude device.Good description. Rim brake performance is crude and, when wet or dirty, unpredictable and ineffective. One of the big advantages of disc brakes is consistency in varying conditions.
I don’t understand the “ugly” tag people apply to discs, it’s just what you think of as ‘normal’. People don’t like change, many slagged off compact road frames for a while, for instance.
Adoption of the technology by the pro peloton is not driving this, it’s customers. Once the pro riders use them too then the arguments for rim brakes disappear, allowing manufacturers to go disc-only. My next road bike is going to be disc braked regardless of what the professionals ride.
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