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January 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm #23120
Nix
The next major competition I am looking at getting organised for is the Spring Classics 2015. I would also like to get some prizes organised for a mini-league if it is still possible to run a standard mini-league competition.
Is anyone able to tell me how the Spring Classics will run this year?
For example:
– Will they be the same 12 races as last year, which will mean Omloop Het Nieuwsblad will be first on 22nd Feb … that’s less than a month away.
– Will it be possible for players to run a mini-league for this with just standard scoring on its own, i.e. not standard + purist + whatever scores all added together as aggregate league “scores”.
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enrique
Dave, TER, can we get values
Dave, TER, can we get values for the following riders in the case that teams will be loaded by start lists of upcoming races?…Cobbled Classics
Peter Sagan
Fabian Cancellara
Geraint Thomas
Theo Bos
Tony Gallopin
Stijn Devolder
John Degenkolb
Michael Matthews
Marcel Kittel
Sam Bennett
Moreno Hofland
Sebastian Langeveld
Zico Waeytens
Alexey Tsatevich
Zico Waeytens
Alexey TsatevichArdennes
Alejandro Valverde
Simon Gerrans
Bauke Mollema
Michal Kwiatkowski
Daniel Martin
Daniel Moreno
Jelle Vanendert
Simon Geschke
Tom Jelte Slagter
Roman Kreuziger
Davide Malacarne
Stefan Denifl
Damiano Cunego
Fabio Felline
Georg PreidlerEspecially because guys like Sagan and Cancellara, and even Valverde, will probably come in later, maybe Strade Bianche, and I’d like to know how much room I would need to bring them in under budget. Thanks! 🙂
LukeClosely
I realise it’s a bit late but
I realise it’s a bit late but could I propose a Bonus Purist competition with unlimited transfers for people who genuinely can’t be bothered to play the standard game? Obviously it wouldn’t be purist as such so wouldn’t have to count towards the purist scores. I think a few of us more casual players would like to play a simplified version of the game
enrique
enrique wrote:… I’m
You’ve brought tears to my eyes, Dave… very generous of you… That, and a lot of riders up and 5 days to plan! Thanks! 🙂enrique wrote:… I’m proposing… [a boatload of] transfers….
TERatcliffe26 wrote:… ive already loaded into the game the 13 races which will happen…
TER, right now I count 180 riders in the competititon, which I gather is the riders on the start list for Omloop. By competition start, will all teams be up, or is there a chance riders will be added after the start of the competition because you’re waiting for rosters to be confirmed as opposed to uploading full team rosters?… 😕enrique wrote:TER, did you just load every rider on every team that’s scheduled to race or is there any chance riders will have to be added in during the competition?… :?.
Again, thank you, Dave…
enrique
enrique wrote:…
28 Februaryenrique wrote:…
28 February Omloop Het Nieuwsblad Elite Road Belgium 1.HC
1 March Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne Road Belgium 1.1
7 March Strade Bianche Road Italy 1.HC
22 March Milan-San Remo Road Italy WT
25 March Dwars door Vlaanderen Road Belgium 1.HC
27 March E3 Harelbeke Road Belgium WT
29 March Gent – Wevelgem Road Belgium WT
5 April Tour of Flanders Road Belgium WT
8 April Scheldeprijs Road Belgium 1.HC
12 April Paris – Roubaix Road France WT
15 April De Brabantse Pijl – La Flèche Brabançonne Road Belgium 1.HC
19 April Amstel Gold Race Road Netherlands WT
22 April La Flèche Wallonne Road Belgium WT
26 April Liège – Bastogne – Liège
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TER, did you just load every rider on every team that’s scheduled to race or is there any chance riders will have to be added in during the competition?… 😕TERatcliffe26 wrote:… ive already loaded into the game the 13 races which will happen…
Stumps
Nix wrote:stumps wrote:
Nix,Nix wrote:stumps wrote:
Nix, by the way you are wrong again, i enjoy the normal game much more than the purist.“by the way you are wrong again” … really? How pathetic. I made no comment whatsoever about which game you enjoyed more..
Err….”Haha, a purist cult member” suggests that you believe that i enjoy that game more. However you will no doubt come back with some other comment.
chiv30
Nix wrote:stumps wrote:
Nix,Nix wrote:stumps wrote:
Nix, by the way you are wrong again, i enjoy the normal game much more than the purist.“by the way you are wrong again” … really? How pathetic. I made no comment whatsoever about which game you enjoyed more. Why would I care or want to pass an opinion on something that irrelevant to me?
As for Chiv suggesting my numbers were wrong or I didn’t answer questions “10 posts back” – I have no idea what he is on about in his posts, so I ignore them.
Hahaha ok I had to respond to this as its hysterical.
If you properly read all the posts rather than just your own you would see I made no mention of answering any questions 10 posts back #o
Anyway I’ll let you carry on winding yourself up now ……aussies and these forums =P~
Nix
stumps wrote:
Nix, by the waystumps wrote:
Nix, by the way you are wrong again, i enjoy the normal game much more than the purist.“by the way you are wrong again” … really? How pathetic. I made no comment whatsoever about which game you enjoyed more. Why would I care or want to pass an opinion on something that irrelevant to me?
As for Chiv suggesting my numbers were wrong or I didn’t answer questions “10 posts back” – I have no idea what he is on about in his posts, so I ignore them.
Joelsim
Shall we just leave this
Shall we just leave this thread now. What will be will be, and it will still be great fun whether it’s 1 transfer per stage or 8.
Stumps
chiv30, yorkshire whippet –
chiv30, yorkshire whippet – thank you, you are both right after all its a game and should be enjoyed as such.Nix, by the way you are wrong again, i enjoy the normal game much more than the purist, but i’ll still try my best at both.
enrique
Yorkshie Whippet wrote:…
What???? :WYorkshie Whippet wrote:… you are taking this far too seriously….
True, but if you’re going uphill, wouldn’t you want another set of gears?… :WYorkshie Whippet wrote:… It’s about enjoying the ride…Joelsim
Yorkshie Whippet wrote:Guys,
Yorkshie Whippet wrote:Guys, guys you are taking this far too seriously with this all this concentration on points. Get back in touch with the spirit of the game and pick a dream team of riders you like. If they score, great.It’s about enjoying the ride not the bike.
Well said.
TERatcliffe26
Twybaydos wrote:Ow –
Twybaydos wrote:Ow – Enrique’s filibustering is hurting my head in this thread – not all statistics give additional information mate.I wrote a post about a week ago regarding a standard comp involving all races (with fantastic prize) whilst splitting ardennes and Belgian cobbles to two separate purist comps. Was this noted by the powers that be and either decided for or against? TERatcliffe – did you see this?
I saw it, and I think Dave saw it, He will be deliberating on what is best to do, but whatever he decides will be set out in the email he intends to send out before the classics explaining all the rules
chiv30
Nix wrote:stumps wrote:Nix
Nix wrote:stumps wrote:Nix wrote:You can do all the thought experiments or boast all you want.Facts and mathematics (statistics) says that ….
The more trades you have, the more strategy and good planning is rewarded, and the less luck is a factor.
Conversely, the less trades you have, the less strategy is rewarded, and the more luck is a factor.Also there’s a saying …….”lies, damn lies and statistics”.
Also your later comments about not wanting to do purist races and eye sticking in my opinion shows that you dont have the interest in spending time doing your homework for races and only want a lot of transfers to make up for that lack of interest :?
Haha, a purist cult member can’t even accept that I have a valid reason for not wanting to play purist games.
“There’s a saying …….”lies, damn lies and statistics” ” … Yes, and it is a refuge for cultists who don’t want their self-serving beliefs challenged by facts.
I don’t play purist because in my view it is fantasy cycling lite – a dumbed down version of fantasy sports to enable people to play lots of games with the least amount of effort and the most amount of luck. That said if others want to play it why should I care – just don’t talk to me about it.
Here is an indisputable rule of logic for you …
Factors that a common to both options are irrelevant in a comparison of which is the better option.So, while it is true that …. no matter what form of fantasy cycling you play, the more research you do, the better outcome you will get, compared to someone who does a lot less work (over the long term and over lots of games).
Because that factor is common to all options it is completely irrelevant in trying to compare and evaluate the options.
Further, only someone that your signature phrase applied to, would propose it as a reason to invalidate someone else’s preference.
Why are you getting so wound up ?
You have an opinion that ,based on your posts, you are trying to push onto everyone else, and yet when someone else has an opinion/question you either ignore the questioning or get aggressive in response to someone else’s opinion .
Stumps was just pointing out what other people ,myself included, have observed . Your comment about fork and eye is an indication that you don’t actually care or even respect anyone who wants to play as a purist and therefore simply won’t tolerate any opinion other than your own about the purist game.
In conclusion to the above you should have given up on this thread about 10 posts back ( arbitrary number but you should get the point ) .
Simply put your numbers game doesn’t tie up with real world fantasy cycling , the transfers will be the transfers , people will and do enjoy purist and std versions of the game and everyone is allowed an opinion irrelevant of whether you agree .
Now I’m done with this thread 8}
Yorkshie Whippet
Guys, guys you are taking
Guys, guys you are taking this far too seriously with this all this concentration on points. Get back in touch with the spirit of the game and pick a dream team of riders you like. If they score, great.It’s about enjoying the ride not the bike.
Nix
stumps wrote:Nix wrote:You
stumps wrote:Nix wrote:You can do all the thought experiments or boast all you want.Facts and mathematics (statistics) says that ….
The more trades you have, the more strategy and good planning is rewarded, and the less luck is a factor.
Conversely, the less trades you have, the less strategy is rewarded, and the more luck is a factor.Also there’s a saying …….”lies, damn lies and statistics”.
Also your later comments about not wanting to do purist races and eye sticking in my opinion shows that you dont have the interest in spending time doing your homework for races and only want a lot of transfers to make up for that lack of interest :?
Haha, a purist cult member can’t even accept that I have a valid reason for not wanting to play purist games.
“There’s a saying …….”lies, damn lies and statistics” ” … Yes, and it is a refuge for cultists who don’t want their self-serving beliefs challenged by facts.
I don’t play purist because in my view it is fantasy cycling lite – a dumbed down version of fantasy sports to enable people to play lots of games with the least amount of effort and the most amount of luck. That said if others want to play it why should I care – just don’t talk to me about it.
Here is an indisputable rule of logic for you …
Factors that a common to both options are irrelevant in a comparison of which is the better option.So, while it is true that …. no matter what form of fantasy cycling you play, the more research you do, the better outcome you will get, compared to someone who does a lot less work (over the long term and over lots of games).
Because that factor is common to all options it is completely irrelevant in trying to compare and evaluate the options.
Further, only someone that your signature phrase applied to, would propose it as a reason to invalidate someone else’s preference.
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