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Garmin edge touring problems

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  • October 5, 2014 at 7:18 pm #22512
    Cooperdan

    Hi, as the subject suggests, I have had countless problems with my Garmin Edge Touring sat nav and was wondering if anyone else has? I downloaded routes this summer when I rode LEJOG with a touring company (fortunately, I had paper back up maps) and despite having these routes, the damn gadget wanted to take me off road! Before anyone suggests it, I have set it for ‘road only’ as I am on my road bike, etc.

    Hilariously, whilst on the Yorkshire tour sportive last weekend (again with a downloaded route), the Touring wanted to take me off down a trail again! I switched it off and followed the masses.

    I have done routes via strava but haven’t got around to testing them on the Touring yet but am rapidly getting fed up of its inane ways – a real waste of cash!

    What are anyone else’s experiences? 8|

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  • October 1, 2015 at 4:09 pm #816851
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    wellcoordinated

    When a Garmin device that
    When a Garmin device that includes mapping sends you down a track, the problem is nearly always with the map source and not the Garmin device. Garmin has no control over the map base and if a track is flagged as a road in the map base then it the device will think it is fair game, if you have set for roads only.

    I use Ride With GPS, which is great but aslo not infallible. If you casually click points miles apart when digitising the route the software will work out a route between your points, but beware. Even with the RWGPS set to cycling it still uses some tracks to route between the two points – its the same with all applications using OSM maps. It’s up to you to check the route before you ride.

    You could of course submit corrections to the OSM base, but that’s another story..

    October 1, 2015 at 3:49 pm #816849
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    carytb

    gdmor10 wrote:maevans

    gdmor10 wrote:
    [quote=maevans]Recommend taking a look at this page: http://ridewithgps.com/help/garmin-edge-touring

    Mine drove me wild until I learned how to turn off half the options, specifically Recalculation. Would frequently completely recalculate my planned route when I went even slightly off course, or the gps signal dropped.

    Using a gpx track file, and plotting the route on the maps that it actually has on it also helps (I also use Ridewithgps for this as it has the option to plot on OSM maps rather than google).

    Thanks for the link.mim a little confused though. On Avoidance Setup disabling avoiding unpaved roads and narrow trails as per the article would seem to logically try to take you down them. So do I set them to avoid or not to avoid

    October 1, 2015 at 2:09 pm #816847
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    keef66

    I have the Touring Plus – I
    I have the Touring Plus – I was mildly curious and wanted to record HR – and am learning to live with it’s shortcomings.

    The Suggest a route function, and plotting routes directly on the device, are frankly fraught with danger. At first glance the map of the suggested route looks OK, but you can’t easily tell whether parts of it are off road. Regardless of the preferences set, the thing delights in routing me down bridleways and impassable footpaths. Investigating Open Streetmap it seems many of these are correctly tagged as unsuitable for cycling, so something else is amiss and likely Garmin’s fault. 4 miles of unplanned, filling rattling CX riding on the best road bike on Monday #o Good job it’s tightly screwed together!

    Initially I had Recalculate switched on. Then if it lost satellite reception briefly it would instantly start sending me straight back home. Recalculate is now off.

    And the Return Home via the shortest route is utterly pointless in a cycling GPS. Geometrically accurate, but I am unable to cycle cross town / country as the crow flies. Might make sense for a walker in open country…

    If I record a ride then save it as a course, it will then do turn by turn navigation faultlessly. Handy if I find a good route and my son wants to try it; he just borrows the Garmin and off he goes.

    I suspect plotting routes on the pc via Ride with GPS / Strava / Garmin’s own software is the way to go…

    September 30, 2015 at 8:51 am #816845
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    bobzeller

    Ride With GPS is the answer.
    Ride With GPS is the answer. Not only because it does a first class job plotting but becaus they have a first class support set up. I had all kinds of problems but now thing the combination of device and plotting service works a treat.

    March 21, 2015 at 12:29 pm #816843
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    StraelGuy

    I’ve got an Edge Touring Plus
    I’ve got an Edge Touring Plus and it’s the biggest pile of cr@p I’ve ever wasted money on X( .

    March 21, 2015 at 5:55 am #816841
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    alotronic

    Routing is awful (as with all
    Routing is awful (as with all Garmins over the years, not just the plus) but once you get beyond that it’s a great device. Read on for a method that is manual but works.

    You *really* need to understand the difference between a route and a track. Pretty much the only time you want a ROUTE is when you are on your computer planning your ride (I use garmin basecamp) – then you really HAVE to convert it to a TRACK (gpx file) and then USB transfer this to Plus (‘new files’ folder, took me a while to find that out) where it converts to a plus FIT file. With Auto route calculation OFF or ASK and you won’t have too many problems. When you go to courses > saved and load the file from there you will get turn by turn navigation. Using this method you can use anything to create the .gpx file (ridewithGPS, strava download) doesn’t matter. I don’t use express and connect to do any of that, I prefer the control 🙂

    The garmin hype has the plus’s routing as a feature – I ignored that and bought it as a cheap upgrade to my 705 with maps for europe ready to go, and it hasn’t disappointed yet.

    March 20, 2015 at 7:41 pm #816839
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    Chez_worldwide

    I’ve also found the Touring
    I’ve also found the Touring great if following a route plotted on Ride With GPS… but if you ask it to plot a route for you expect to see lots of canal tow paths! On the whole I’d recommend it.

    March 20, 2015 at 7:27 pm #816837
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    maevans

    With the recalculation off
    With the recalculation off and using gpx tracks I’ve had it working pretty trouble free.

    One occurrence of the turn-by-turn stopping half way through a ride, but fine apart from that.

    March 19, 2015 at 11:16 am #816835
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    gdmor10

    maevans wrote:Recommend

    maevans wrote:
    Recommend taking a look at this page: http://ridewithgps.com/help/garmin-edge-touring

    Mine drove me wild until I learned how to turn off half the options, specifically Recalculation. Would frequently completely recalculate my planned route when I went even slightly off course, or the gps signal dropped.

    Using a gpx track file, and plotting the route on the maps that it actually has on it also helps (I also use Ridewithgps for this as it has the option to plot on OSM maps rather than google).

    Very interested to hear if these fixes work, I have a load of nectar points and was going to buy the touring edge as the range in Argos is limited.

    March 19, 2015 at 10:28 am #816833
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    maevans

    Recommend taking a look at
    Recommend taking a look at this page: http://ridewithgps.com/help/garmin-edge-touring

    Mine drove me wild until I learned how to turn off half the options, specifically Recalculation. Would frequently completely recalculate my planned route when I went even slightly off course, or the gps signal dropped.

    Using a gpx track file, and plotting the route on the maps that it actually has on it also helps (I also use Ridewithgps for this as it has the option to plot on OSM maps rather than google).

    March 19, 2015 at 9:19 am #816831
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    geekinthesticks

    I have a 510, which I bought
    I have a 510, which I bought after having read lots of bad reviews of Garmins routing abilities. Out of interest I have created routes from the tracks of several of my local rides using the Garmin website. I then uploaded these to the 510 and tried out the turn by turn directions by cycling the routes. There were so many errors that I would never rely on it for any sort of turn by turn navigation.

    If I need to navigate, which is usually only for short distances, I use my phone. However, the other functions of the 510, work well.

    March 19, 2015 at 6:04 am #816829
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    carytb

    I have a Touring Plus and
    I have a Touring Plus and have on a couple of recent rides it has suddenly decided to stop giving me the turn by turn directions mid ride!
    I also read somewhere that plotting a route on one type of map ie google then using the unit on another ie OCM can cause errors as the 2 maps aren’t identical. I also find the route planning on Garmin Conect is constantly trying to get me onto canal tow paths of which we have a quite a number where I live. And don’t get me going on the new look garmin site.

    March 19, 2015 at 6:04 am #816827
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    carytb

    I have a Touring Plus and
    I have a Touring Plus and have on a couple of recent rides it has suddenly decided to stop giving me the turn by turn directions mid ride!
    I also read somewhere that plotting a route on one type of map ie google then using the unit on another ie OCM can cause errors as the 2 maps aren’t identical. I also find the route planning on Garmin Conect is constantly trying to get me onto canal tow paths of which we have a quite a number where I live. And don’t get me going on the new look garmin site.

    March 18, 2015 at 10:51 pm #816825
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    ianbak

    I’ve had pretty much the same
    I’ve had pretty much the same issue, with two rides recently spoilt when a slight deviation caused the unit to discard the planned route in favour the shortest route to the finish point! Hopefully turning off automatic recalculation will fix this…

    March 18, 2015 at 10:43 pm #816823
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    rnick

    Hello,
    I’m in the “very
    Hello,
    I’m in the “very disappointed” camp with this having had an Edge Plus for a couple of weeks. The re-routing / offroute messages are really annoying & seem unfathomable. Some of this may be down to set up – but the instructions you receive are poor. I discovered today, from Garmin Support, that the “touring mode” can send you down tracks – which might explain a recent trip down a bridleway & across some fields.

    I’m awaiting an answer as to why no elevation gain is shown on routes planned with Garmin Connect & why a recent route, when uploaded to the unit – suggested 48,000 ft of ascent, the Yorkshire Dales are hilly, but not that steep!

    The interfaces with Garmin Connect / Express are flakey & sometimes don’t work. I bought direct from Garmin (50% discount offer) – but was miffed as it needed a 5gb upgrade – a long job when you’ve a 4Mb connection.

    All in all, could be so much better.

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