rider weight

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    Shanefutcher

    Hi guys just after some advice.im 34, 5 foot 11 and weigh just under 13 stone.is this a good weight? If I was a pro cyclist id describe myself as a puncheur(guys like phil gilbert)

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    PurpleDog

    El Tel wrote:I’m just short

    El Tel wrote:
    I’m just short of 15 stone, 5’10”
    Bloody hard work going up the hills……but 47mph last week coming down….always a silver lining :D

    Just over 15 stone myself, and not long ago hit 51.6mph on a downhill, another guy did 50.9… the skinny climber among us couldn’t get past 46mph!! Ha ha – more pies for success 😀

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    El Tel

    I’m just short of 15 stone,
    I’m just short of 15 stone, 5’10”
    Bloody hard work going up the hills……but 47mph last week coming down….always a silver lining 😀

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    paulrbarnard

    Interesting article. I’m
    Interesting article. I’m 2.2222222222222 and funnily enough my wife is constantly going on at me to put some more weight on.

    My challenge is on the power side of the equation. I’m an old git with spaghetti for legs…

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    glynr36

    PurpleDog wrote:Surely

    PurpleDog wrote:
    Surely there’s a flaw in equating height (in one dimension) with weight (three dimensions)?

    If you took, say, Froome and shrunk him by, say, 5%, his weight would drop by around 14% as you’d be reducing height, width and depth (front to back) and he would have 14% less volume to weigh.

    This weight per inch of height ignores the three-dimensionality of the rider. The only way it would work as advertised is if cyclists have a consistent width and depth, and all that changes between one and another is height – then you’re changing one dimension only between different riders and a obe-dimensional relationship between height and weight would work. Otherwise, it makes no sense whatsoever!

    This, also that guys blog article is essentially BMI under a veil.
    (Uses the same two inputs, though manipulated in a different way)

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    CXR94Di2

    Power to weight is the
    Power to weight is the important figure. If I could drop 7lbs and keep the same power all the better. Taller cyclists will generally weigh more than smaller, so to be competitive whilst tall you need to be stick thin – as long as they can put out the same or more power than a smaller rider.

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    PurpleDog

    Surely there’s a flaw in
    Surely there’s a flaw in equating height (in one dimension) with weight (three dimensions)?

    If you took, say, Froome and shrunk him by, say, 5%, his weight would drop by around 14% as you’d be reducing height, width and depth (front to back) and he would have 14% less volume to weigh.

    This weight per inch of height ignores the three-dimensionality of the rider. The only way it would work as advertised is if cyclists have a consistent width and depth, and all that changes between one and another is height – then you’re changing one dimension only between different riders and a obe-dimensional relationship between height and weight would work. Otherwise, it makes no sense whatsoever!

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    Simon E

    userfriendly wrote:1.9 But

    userfriendly wrote:
    1.9 🙁 But I’m already eating as much as I can!

    Pah, lightweight!

    😉

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    userfriendly

    1.9 But I’m already eating
    1.9 🙁 But I’m already eating as much as I can!

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    ajmarshal1

    lisa76uk wrote:A guy I follow
    [quote=lisa76uk]A guy I follow on WordPress oddly blogged about this very thing today, good read… http://fitrecovery.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/what-is-the-ideal-cycling-weight-its-not-simply-as-light-as-possible/%5B/quote%5D

    2.49? I’m putting down the Pom-Bears….

    #803177
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    sergius

    Yeah the weight training is
    Yeah the weight training is just a habit I’ve formed over the years, it’s not specifically there to improve my riding. The only cycling related bits are core training and various leg exercises that I use to try and strengthen specific parts like my problem knees. Plus you have to look good with your shirt off right 😀

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    McVittees

    sergius wrote:Hmm, that’s

    sergius wrote:
    Hmm, that’s actually vaguely concerning reading, my ratio on that measure is 2.04. I don’t think I’m remotely underweight and it’s not like I’m a weakling, I’m in the gym 4+ times a week doing strength training on top of my weekend cycling.

    There are many, for example Andy Coggan, who suggest the value of strength training for cycling is limited. On the bike power is a result of the force applied through the pedals and velocity at which you can move them (cadence). Often, cyclists when pedaling at very high power levels aren’t actually putting anywhere near the maximum force they could and no where near what they could do in a one rep squat. Rather it is about training the body to utilise the muscle and energy systems effectively. Also, a huge impact on your cycling and power output is your bodies resistance to fatigue – again something that weight training won’t dramatically improve for cycling.

    (Obviously though weight training is good for general health and protecting joints)

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    sergius

    Hmm, that’s actually vaguely
    Hmm, that’s actually vaguely concerning reading, my ratio on that measure is 2.04. I don’t think I’m remotely underweight and it’s not like I’m a weakling, I’m in the gym 4+ times a week doing strength training on top of my weekend cycling.

    I’ll have a look at some of the turbo trainer stuff – I was thinking about getting one for the winter anyway – I just need to find a good argument I can put to the missus for allowing my bike in the house…

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    lisa76uk

    A guy I follow on WordPress
    A guy I follow on WordPress oddly blogged about this very thing today, good read… http://fitrecovery.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/what-is-the-ideal-cycling-weight-its-not-simply-as-light-as-possible/

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    ajmarshal1

    sergius wrote:Random comment,

    sergius wrote:
    Random comment, is there anyway to measure or rather calculate your power output roughly, without going to the expense of a power meter?

    Obviously it would be a rough guideline, but it’s something I’d be interested in calculating and recording over time (deltas even if absolute values aren’t spot on).

    You can get a rough estimate by signing up to trainer road and using their FTP test and estimated power data with your turbo trainer. You’ll need an ant+ Speed / cadence sensor and USB dongle also (And pbviously a turbo trainer!). I found it very accurate and it was only roughly 6 watts below what Power tap told me on the same test.

    IMO this is a brilliant tool for indoor training and a great introduction to training with power data without the expense. Can’t recommend it enough, it’s completely revolutionised my winter training.

    Edited to add: Giobox got there first!

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    Alan Tullett

    sergius wrote:Random comment,

    sergius wrote:
    Random comment, is there anyway to measure or rather calculate your power output roughly, without going to the expense of a power meter?

    Obviously it would be a rough guideline, but it’s something I’d be interested in calculating and recording over time (deltas even if absolute values aren’t spot on).

    Well, Strava will do that for you but it won’t take into account wind conditions, road surface etc but you can keep a record of wind and compare times in similar conditions over time. Veloviewer can give you your best watts over a range of time intervals as well and with a heart rate monitor it can even give you watts per heartbeat.

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