rider weight

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    Shanefutcher

    Hi guys just after some advice.im 34, 5 foot 11 and weigh just under 13 stone.is this a good weight? If I was a pro cyclist id describe myself as a puncheur(guys like phil gilbert)

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  • #803165
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    giobox

    sergius wrote:Random comment,

    sergius wrote:
    Random comment, is there anyway to measure or rather calculate your power output roughly, without going to the expense of a power meter?

    Obviously it would be a rough guideline, but it’s something I’d be interested in calculating and recording over time (deltas even if absolute values aren’t spot on).

    Systems like trainerroad.com, or the Kurt iRide can calculate a pretty decent number based on wheelspeed on supported turbo trainers without a powermeter.

    You’ll need to spend around 30 to 60 quid on ant+ speed sensors and ant+ usb dongle, many cyclists will already have the speed sensor.

    Even if the numbers arent 100% accurate, they are consistent enough to train on. Consistent numbers are far more important than accuracy. (What constitutes an ‘accurate’ power meter is another question entirely though!)

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    sergius

    Random comment, is there
    Random comment, is there anyway to measure or rather calculate your power output roughly, without going to the expense of a power meter?

    Obviously it would be a rough guideline, but it’s something I’d be interested in calculating and recording over time (deltas even if absolute values aren’t spot on).

    #803161
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    Paul J

    So he does, reading fail on
    So he does, reading fail on my part, sorry. 🙂

    #803159
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    ajmarshal1

    Paul J wrote:abudhabichris:

    Paul J wrote:
    abudhabichris: Nice comment (+1). Just one thing, power figures need to come with time to be meaningful. Is your power-to-weight using threshold power (i.e. fully aerobic power, sustainable for at least an hour)?

    He states it’s for 20 minutes, not 60. Seems an accurate breakdown IMO.

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    Paul J

    abudhabichris: Nice comment
    abudhabichris: Nice comment (+1). Just one thing, power figures need to come with time to be meaningful. Is your power-to-weight using threshold power (i.e. fully aerobic power, sustainable for at least an hour)?

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    CXR94Di2

    Jeez I weigh 15st 6 lb .
    Jeez I weigh 15st 6 lb . Don’t know exactly what power I put out, but can average 18+mph over 40 miles. I do struggle up hills but Ok ish on flat terrain.

    #803153
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    KirinChris

    It’s a difficult conversation
    It’s a difficult conversation to have unless you know your power.

    Cycling is about two things – aerodynamics and power-to-weight ratio.

    The aerodynamics matters on the flats, as does the outright power. The power-to-weight matters as soon as the road points up for any distance.

    Aerodynamics is mostly you. For aero purposes forget the bike and forget the wheels – they don’t make a lot of difference. Most of the drag is you.

    For power to weight it is simple:

    6 watts per kilo (over 20 mins) will make you an international pro
    5-6 w/kg a domestic pro
    4.5-5 w/kg winning or contending races at high categories
    4-4.5 w/kg doing well in lower category racing and a man to fear on the club run
    3.5-4 w/kg handy club or sportive rider, unlikely to win too much if racing
    3-3.5 w/kg you’ll get through most rides but you’re only going to scare the noobs
    2.5-3 w/kg social/leisure rider
    under 2.5 w/kg – not trying

    13 stone is 82 kg.

    So if you can put out 330-340 watts (which is unlikely to be honest, unless you’ve been doing some proper training) you’ll hold your own against most people other than serious racers.

    Same power but with 7kg less, which is still well within your healthy range, you’d be racing respectably and churning up the club run.

    Depends what your aim is.

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    60kg lean keen climbing machine

    Interesting? I struggle with
    Interesting? I struggle with my weight but the other way round! I currently are at summer weight 56kg (8 stone 11 ish) I am small at 167cm (just under 5,6) but this low weight may be good on the hills but on the flat and when there’s a headwind blowing staying with the group can be hard as I don’t seem to have the raw power. Also if not careful what I eat before during and after a ride I can bonk to the point that I can not ride, I have in the past gone down in heap by the side of the road, very bad. So I would just relax if you are at a healthy weight and can go out on your bike and enjoy you self then what is the big deal. I would prefer to heaver as I think this would help with some of my niggles but I am now 42 years old and don’t race so I just get on with it!

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    CXR94Di2

    I am 6ft, flat tum but not 6
    I am 6ft, flat tum but not 6 pack 50″chest weigh 15-15st 6lbs I would like to get into the 14 stone bracket to help me climb hills more easily. In cycling terms, wrongly built. I cycle for fitness and some sportives

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    Nick T

    Depends on where and what the
    Depends on where and what the weight is rather than just figures. 13st of pure muscle on the legs is better for cycling than 13st of flabby midriff or 13st of bicep, as one would expect.

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    uksportives

    Well I would say your fine,
    Well I would say your fine, although I’m sure we would all like to be 10 stone and be a good all rounder. In our club we have just had a leisure cyclist join us at almost 20 stone and he is so determined, he now does spin classes etc and he does his dam best.

    Some stats on the pro front I know there conditioned cyclist but still human, I remember watching Magnus going up Barhatch Lane on the Tour Of Britain 2 years ago sweating Buckets, so this goes to show visually it really does hurt then hard as us at times.!

    Magnus Bäckstedt 94 kilos 14.80 Stone

    Andre Griepal 80 kilos 12.5978 stone

    Marcel Kittel 86 Kilos 13.5427 Stone
    Someone quoted:
    For competitive cycling you would be described as fat as fcuk. I disagree, but understand where your coming from in a way.

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    Jimmy Ray Will

    For competitive cycling you
    For competitive cycling you would be described as fat as fcuk.

    There, I’ll say it as it is.

    I am your height, weigh a little over 12 stone, am a sprinter and am considered disrespectfully fat/heavy by my peers.

    At a competitive level, power to weight is a ratio that gets bounded about a lot, but in reality weight is the more important factor. Why? Because most competitive cyclists can ultimately produce a very similar amount of watts (I used to do a lot of 20min power tests on riders and it was amazing how tight the band of average power different people produced), so the only real changeable metric is weight.

    However, I’ll contradict the above with the following two arguments.

    1. Not many of us actually reach our ultimate power output potential, so for most, more gains will come from working on that, than shaving the last couple of kilos off.

    2. In the land of normal people (not racing snakes), your weight and height is pretty damn healthy, so don’t worry about it.

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    J90

    Drop a couple of stone. Get
    Drop a couple of stone. Get on the weights. You’ll own your local club.

    #803139
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    mooleur

    Unless you’re racing, if you
    Unless you’re racing, if you feel good & healthy and your BMI (to be taken with a pinch of salt anyway) isn’t through the roof then chillax, don’t panic about weight.

    If you want to climb a little quicker, or start being a spot more competitive then look at taking some weight off but I really think too many people focus on this unnecessarily at a recreational level.

    Being healthy in lifestyle and diet is far more important than weighing in like a whippet.

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    Gkam84

    A good weight for what?
    For a

    A good weight for what?

    For a pro rider, a little on the heavy side.
    For a amateur racers, still a little heavy
    For a healthy leisure cyclist. Just fine.
    For a full kit wanker, a little on the light side 👿

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