[BrokenBootneck]

I have for many years been a massive Garmin fan. Used many product no real issues, great replacement service. After a few years of almost constant daily use my edge 1000 has given up the ghost. The screen isn’t working at all. Having tried a few things only to find nothing works but the bullet and rang Garmin. It has recently gone up from 90 quid for a refurb to nearly 200. 

Bloody terrible. Anyone have a good alternative to Garmin. I use the map screen quite a lot. The other basic metrics I guess are standard. 

Cheers for any suggestions. 

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[The _Kaner]

Take a look at the Hammerhead
Take a look at the Hammerhead Karoo?
Essentially an android without the phone bits.

[davel]

hawkinspeter wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

beezus fufoon wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

Anybody who has a half decent smartphone and then goes out and spends money on a dedicated gps unit of any make is utterly nuts. I use my Iphone 7 on a quad-lock mount. I spent £20 on an external battery which gives me a range of around 500km. Also, using Ride with GPS  is massively, massively better than any Garmin I have ever seen.

aw, someone on the internet says I’m utterly nuts.

The idea of having my phone out in all weather, with me punching its screen , sometimes with gloved, unfeeling fingers, and then not being able to use it as a phone because its battery is mullered, really doesn’t appeal to me.

Ah but a mobile charger/external battery pack, you cry!

Another bit of gadgetry to solve only one of the above problems? No ta.

 

The other problems aren’t problems. Most smartphones now are waterproof so the weather isn’t an issue. I’m not sure why you want to spend riding time “punching” the screen of your phone.

 

If you want to spend a load of money on an utterly crap product when you have a much better solution in your pocket then go for it, but don’t be surprised when “someone on the internet” thinks your a bit thick.

It should occur to you, sweetie, that people are very different and make very different choices. For example, some people actually have the money to try out gizmos that may well be less-than-perfect, for what they don’t consider a load of money, and are OK with that particular life choice, because of their other life choices. It should also occur to you that YOUR English isn’t that great. By now it should be dawning on you that YOU’RE a lot thick.

 

Ah, grammatical corrections. The last hope of someone who long ago lost an argument.

“long ago lost” is a split verb

I think you meant a “split infinitive”, which it isn’t (there’s no “to” used). I don’t see anything wrong with his grandma.

 

Easy now: some illiterate might come along and accuse you of losing an historical argument.

[hawkinspeter]

beezus fufoon wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

Anybody who has a half decent smartphone and then goes out and spends money on a dedicated gps unit of any make is utterly nuts. I use my Iphone 7 on a quad-lock mount. I spent £20 on an external battery which gives me a range of around 500km. Also, using Ride with GPS  is massively, massively better than any Garmin I have ever seen.

aw, someone on the internet says I’m utterly nuts.

The idea of having my phone out in all weather, with me punching its screen , sometimes with gloved, unfeeling fingers, and then not being able to use it as a phone because its battery is mullered, really doesn’t appeal to me.

Ah but a mobile charger/external battery pack, you cry!

Another bit of gadgetry to solve only one of the above problems? No ta.

 

The other problems aren’t problems. Most smartphones now are waterproof so the weather isn’t an issue. I’m not sure why you want to spend riding time “punching” the screen of your phone.

 

If you want to spend a load of money on an utterly crap product when you have a much better solution in your pocket then go for it, but don’t be surprised when “someone on the internet” thinks your a bit thick.

It should occur to you, sweetie, that people are very different and make very different choices. For example, some people actually have the money to try out gizmos that may well be less-than-perfect, for what they don’t consider a load of money, and are OK with that particular life choice, because of their other life choices. It should also occur to you that YOUR English isn’t that great. By now it should be dawning on you that YOU’RE a lot thick.

 

Ah, grammatical corrections. The last hope of someone who long ago lost an argument.

“long ago lost” is a split verb

I think you meant a “split infinitive”, which it isn’t (there’s no “to” used). I don’t see anything wrong with his grandma.

 

[beezus fufoon]

luiandlui wrote:

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

Anybody who has a half decent smartphone and then goes out and spends money on a dedicated gps unit of any make is utterly nuts. I use my Iphone 7 on a quad-lock mount. I spent £20 on an external battery which gives me a range of around 500km. Also, using Ride with GPS  is massively, massively better than any Garmin I have ever seen.

aw, someone on the internet says I’m utterly nuts.

The idea of having my phone out in all weather, with me punching its screen , sometimes with gloved, unfeeling fingers, and then not being able to use it as a phone because its battery is mullered, really doesn’t appeal to me.

Ah but a mobile charger/external battery pack, you cry!

Another bit of gadgetry to solve only one of the above problems? No ta.

 

The other problems aren’t problems. Most smartphones now are waterproof so the weather isn’t an issue. I’m not sure why you want to spend riding time “punching” the screen of your phone.

 

If you want to spend a load of money on an utterly crap product when you have a much better solution in your pocket then go for it, but don’t be surprised when “someone on the internet” thinks your a bit thick.

It should occur to you, sweetie, that people are very different and make very different choices. For example, some people actually have the money to try out gizmos that may well be less-than-perfect, for what they don’t consider a load of money, and are OK with that particular life choice, because of their other life choices. It should also occur to you that YOUR English isn’t that great. By now it should be dawning on you that YOU’RE a lot thick.

 

Ah, grammatical corrections. The last hope of someone who long ago lost an argument.

“long ago lost” is a split verb

[luiandlui]

davel wrote:

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

Anybody who has a half decent smartphone and then goes out and spends money on a dedicated gps unit of any make is utterly nuts. I use my Iphone 7 on a quad-lock mount. I spent £20 on an external battery which gives me a range of around 500km. Also, using Ride with GPS  is massively, massively better than any Garmin I have ever seen.

aw, someone on the internet says I’m utterly nuts.

The idea of having my phone out in all weather, with me punching its screen , sometimes with gloved, unfeeling fingers, and then not being able to use it as a phone because its battery is mullered, really doesn’t appeal to me.

Ah but a mobile charger/external battery pack, you cry!

Another bit of gadgetry to solve only one of the above problems? No ta.

 

The other problems aren’t problems. Most smartphones now are waterproof so the weather isn’t an issue. I’m not sure why you want to spend riding time “punching” the screen of your phone.

 

If you want to spend a load of money on an utterly crap product when you have a much better solution in your pocket then go for it, but don’t be surprised when “someone on the internet” thinks your a bit thick.

It should occur to you, sweetie, that people are very different and make very different choices. For example, some people actually have the money to try out gizmos that may well be less-than-perfect, for what they don’t consider a load of money, and are OK with that particular life choice, because of their other life choices. It should also occur to you that YOUR English isn’t that great. By now it should be dawning on you that YOU’RE a lot thick.

 

Ah, grammatical corrections. The last hope of someone who long ago lost an argument.

[ClubSmed]

froze wrote:

I think Garmin is WAY overpriced anyways…no let me rephrase that, hideously outragiously expensive.  Why should a Garmin for a bicycle cost about 3 times more than a Garmin car nav system?  This makes no sense to me other then it’s all about gouging cyclists because they’re all so stinking wealthy and thus can afford it.  Besides if you have an IPhone you can use the GPS system they have and it will give you turn by turn instuctions, and they have a cycling mode.

I am no expert but I can think of a few reasons off the top of my head why a cycle sat nav would be more expensive than a car one:

Cycle sat navs need to be weather resistant, car sat navs don’t
Cycle sat navs need to be fall resistant, car sat navs don’t
Cycle sat navs need to have complex fittings, car sat navs don’t
Cycle sat navs need to connect to power meters, car sat navs don’t
Cycle sat navs need to connect to heart rate monitors, car sat navs don’t
Cycle sat navs have a potential market of 6.6 million cyclists, car sat navs have a potential market of 45.5 million driver.

[froze]

I think Garmin is WAY

I think Garmin is WAY overpriced anyways…no let me rephrase that, hideously outragiously expensive.  Why should a Garmin for a bicycle cost about 3 times more than a Garmin car nav system?  This makes no sense to me other then it’s all about gouging cyclists because they’re all so stinking wealthy and thus can afford it.  Besides if you have an IPhone you can use the GPS system they have and it will give you turn by turn instuctions, and they have a cycling mode.

 

[davel]

luiandlui wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

Anybody who has a half decent smartphone and then goes out and spends money on a dedicated gps unit of any make is utterly nuts. I use my Iphone 7 on a quad-lock mount. I spent £20 on an external battery which gives me a range of around 500km. Also, using Ride with GPS  is massively, massively better than any Garmin I have ever seen.

aw, someone on the internet says I’m utterly nuts.

The idea of having my phone out in all weather, with me punching its screen , sometimes with gloved, unfeeling fingers, and then not being able to use it as a phone because its battery is mullered, really doesn’t appeal to me.

Ah but a mobile charger/external battery pack, you cry!

Another bit of gadgetry to solve only one of the above problems? No ta.

 

The other problems aren’t problems. Most smartphones now are waterproof so the weather isn’t an issue. I’m not sure why you want to spend riding time “punching” the screen of your phone.

 

If you want to spend a load of money on an utterly crap product when you have a much better solution in your pocket then go for it, but don’t be surprised when “someone on the internet” thinks your a bit thick.

It should occur to you, sweetie, that people are very different and make very different choices. For example, some people actually have the money to try out gizmos that may well be less-than-perfect, for what they don’t consider a load of money, and are OK with that particular life choice, because of their other life choices.

It should also occur to you that YOUR English isn’t that great.

By now it should be dawning on you that YOU’RE a lot thick.

[Morat]

wycombewheeler wrote:

wycombewheeler wrote:

Morat wrote:

Now you can get a quarter turn mounts for phones and the phones themselves are waterproof, I’m not sure I’d bother with another Garmin once this Edge 800 goes pop.

Phone batteries don’t last if you are using for navigation. I prefer to keep my phone avaable for emergencies rather than finding it flat by the end of the ride.

They can, especially if you set Google Maps to “Dim screen between turns”.

It depends how far you ride, of course. There are external battery packs and some phones still have replaceable batteries.

[simonmb]

beezus fufoon wrote:

isn’t there a velominati rule about having clutter on your bars?

IDGAF

[Anonymous]

Under EU law you are likely

Under EU law you are likely to be covered for repair (for up to 6 years) Given that the device is top of the range, there should be a reasonable expectation of longevity even with daily use. Afterall, why should you pay £400-£500 on a GPS for it to go pop after 2-3 years use and not expect some redress never mind be quoted a £200 repair bill! Don’t think because it’s ‘just’ an electronic gismo that that should leave you with any less rights if your 3400-£500 washing machine stopped working after 2 or 3 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2006/mar/25/consumernews.howtocomplain

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/what-do-i-do-if-i-have-a-faulty-product

The sale of goods Act 1979 had its limitations and was a bit ambiguous, the Consumer Rights Act 2015 makes things a bit clearer and helps protect consumers more.

I would look into pressing them to make a free repair and quote the Consumer Rights Act (Mention this in full with the year as it’s important) if bought after Oct 2015, or the SoGA1979 if before.

[kitsunegari]

I’d much rather spend money

I’d much rather spend money on a cycling computer than anything at all on a mobile phone! 

It will be many a year before I get a waterproof phone, let alone one that does something as fancy as turn by turn navigation.

[luiandlui]

davel wrote:

luiandlui wrote:

Anybody who has a half decent smartphone and then goes out and spends money on a dedicated gps unit of any make is utterly nuts. I use my Iphone 7 on a quad-lock mount. I spent £20 on an external battery which gives me a range of around 500km. Also, using Ride with GPS  is massively, massively better than any Garmin I have ever seen.

aw, someone on the internet says I’m utterly nuts.

The idea of having my phone out in all weather, with me punching its screen , sometimes with gloved, unfeeling fingers, and then not being able to use it as a phone because its battery is mullered, really doesn’t appeal to me.

Ah but a mobile charger/external battery pack, you cry!

Another bit of gadgetry to solve only one of the above problems? No ta.

 

The other problems aren’t problems. Most smartphones now are waterproof so the weather isn’t an issue. I’m not sure why you want to spend riding time “punching” the screen of your phone.

 

If you want to spend a load of money on an utterly crap product when you have a much better solution in your pocket then go for it, but don’t be surprised when “someone on the internet” thinks your a bit thick.

[alansmurphy]

DoctorFish wrote:

Seems lots of Garmin fanbois responding to your post. 

 

 

Like totes, it’s like they like like the company like.

 

Is Garmin Fanbois a French dish?

[beezus fufoon]

isn’t there a velominati rule

isn’t there a velominati rule about having clutter on your bars?

I like to navigate using instinct and the sun or stars, although I have been known to ask passers-by for directions on cloudy days.

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