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Anyone riding 52/36 with 11-32?

I have 52/36 with 11-28 cassette and was torn between which to replace to tackle some nasty hills here.. Long story but I've got an 11-32 cassette and going to try it with the semi compact...
Does anyone ride this? Is there much difference to an 11-28 in the middle cogs? I read changing gear from 28 into 32 is a bit of a clunker?
I could always get compact chainrings later when I've saved money (oval when i start laying diamonds) ... I'm new to cycling.. It seems I do need to start laying diamond eggs quite soon!

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MarkOne replied to Simon E | 7 years ago
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Simon E wrote:

.... that 4-tooth step to the 32 tooth cog is very welcome.

As for chainrings, aren't you supposed to be able to replace the chainrings on a semi-compact with 50/34?.... 12 & 13 from another cassette. .

Hoping that 32 has me spinning 70 at least on most bills here.

Yeah looks like I can swap the rings later if I need, rather than the whole chainset as i'd feared

No idea what those calculators mean tbh!

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Simon E replied to MarkOne | 7 years ago
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MarkOne wrote:

No idea what those calculators mean tbh!

They can be useful to compare ratios for various cassettes and chainsets.

I select a tyre size, use gear inches (because it's what I'm familiar with), enter chainring sizes and select the relevant cassette from the drop-down. I then put the numbers into Excel to get a graph or chart so I can visualise the ratios. Attached is one that shows 39 and 34 tooth chainrings with a couple of  10-speed cassettes.

Blue = 39t chainring with 11-32
Green = 39t chainring with 12-28
Red = 34t chainring with 12-28

The steep angle of the 11-32 in higher gears indicates bigger gaps in what I find are the more useful ratios for general road riding. On the flip side, in lower gears this gearing means the 39t is not far off the gearing of a 34x28 compact for hills.

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MarkOne replied to Simon E | 7 years ago
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Simon E]<p>[quote=MarkOne wrote:

The steep angle of the 11-32 in higher gears indicates bigger gaps in what I find are the more useful ratios for general road riding. On the flip side, in lower gears this gearing means the 39t is not far off the gearing of a 34x28 compact for hills.

I now have much more of an idea thank you! The graph works well to show it. I will have a need around with it later

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CXR94Di2 replied to MarkOne | 7 years ago
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MarkOne wrote:
Simon E wrote:

.... that 4-tooth step to the 32 tooth cog is very welcome.

As for chainrings, aren't you supposed to be able to replace the chainrings on a semi-compact with 50/34?.... 12 & 13 from another cassette. .

Hoping that 32 has me spinning 70 at least on most bills here.

Yeah looks like I can swap the rings later if I need, rather than the whole chainset as i'd feared

No idea what those calculators mean tbh!

70 rpm isn't spinning, it's borderline grinding. 90rpm and above is spinning. It relieves so much leg stress to spin high rpm. You will arrive at the top of the hill able to continue without gasping and slowing to recover

Below is a table from Sheldon brown 3 columns showing chainring​s I've selected 52,36,28. The numbers down the side are a standard 11-32 Cass. Sheldon's calc indicates a 14% difference between using a 28t and 32t. That is huge and can be the difference between getting up a hill or not

With you weighing 70kg, unless very unfit, you should be able to climb with a 28t reasonably well. But saying that, having a bailout gear with a 32 t is always nice.

I went out today to do a long ride in zone 2 no matter what i came across,. I rode up a long hill of 16 % at 90 rpm, kept my heart rate below 140bpm by using 28t chain ring and 32t sprocket. I do weigh nearly 100kg and can power up short climbs but prefer to hold a very high cadence for hills more than a few hundred meters.

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Vista Cycling T... replied to Simon E | 6 years ago
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As with many things in life, it's all very personal but also related to where you ride.

Now, I live in Florence, where we have wall-climbs, rolling hills and Apennine mountains and the 34t crank with my 30t cog makes a difference to me - it's my get-out-clause on the 20% - 25%+ climbs. With my Ultegra 50/34, I have a custom/slightly bodged 11s 11-30 (where a mechanic extracted a mid-range cog a slotted on a 30t cog after the 28).

On the other hand, I find my compact 50t crank doesn't always satisfy with a 11t rear cog, and on a long, gently flowing or straight downhill section I do sometimes "run out of gears".

I'm considering a 52/36 semi-compact crank and larger range 11-32 rear cassette. This should retain the same ratio for low climbing gears but give me a little extra push at the top-end.

Give me a message or a call if anyone wants a guide in the Tuscany area (Giro d'Italia / Strade Bianche / L'Eroica)
www.vistacycling.com +39 3772733048

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CXR94Di2 | 7 years ago
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search on line 'cycle gear calculator, punch the ratios you want and choose either speed, percentage difference pr gear inches= which I find useful.  If you search online for shimano 6800 11-32 cass you will come across the indivual sprockets sizes listed.  The 32t approx will give you about 12% easier gearing over the 28t

 

here is gear calc  http://www.bikecalc.com/gear_inches

 

If you're a big rider and ride up hills alot, I would consider a mtb gearing setup front and rear, but this will involve alot of expense.  My tourer is geared 40/28  with either 11-32 cass or for mountain rides 11-40.  I can cycle up any mountain and have bailout gears.  I can also ride at 25mph on the flat with those gears.  so it covers virtually all scenarios

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MarkOne replied to CXR94Di2 | 7 years ago
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CXR94Di2 wrote:

here is gear calc  http://www.bikecalc.com/gear_inches

Had a look thanks, but no idea what it means!
I'm not big but climbing quite a bit. Probably 70kg in a few weeks of good weather but some v steep ones

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Vejnemojnen | 7 years ago
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why not 13-32 or something with more fine increments?

 

how often do you need the 11-12t, apart from "storing the bike" on small-small?  1

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MarkOne replied to Vejnemojnen | 7 years ago
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Vejnemojnen wrote:

why not 13-32 or something with more fine increments?

 

how often do you need the 11-12t, apart from "storing the bike" on small-small?  1

Lack of knowledge about what is possible /available I guess. I thought shimano had to be with shimano (13-32 is sram?). Others have said to make up new ratios by combining cassettes, but can't afford those games (strange nobody sells individual rings!)
Hm.. I do like to hammer it down hill, but it is a bit extravagant having 11 and 12 I suppose

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ibr17xvii | 7 years ago
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Doesn't really answer your question but I have 50/34 - 11/32 on my winter bike & 52/36 - 11/28 on the summer bike and when the weather (finally) gets better & I switch over I find a massive difference.

And not a good one either when it comes to hills..............

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MarkOne replied to ibr17xvii | 7 years ago
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ibr17xvii wrote:

Doesn't really answer your question but I have 50/34 - 11/32 on my winter bike & 52/36 - 11/28 on the summer bike and when the weather (finally) gets better & I switch over I find a massive difference.

And not a good one either when it comes to hills..............

Yeah my initial thought was to go compact and 11-32,but I messed up the order ..so fitting the rear and setting how it is with the semi ..Hoping /praying I can spin the hills easier /faster.. And also that it answers all my needs! Maybe I'll be able to swap it in the future, as/when required

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