Every now and again, however, you get a brand trying something new. Like Mornera with the ONE/1, which is designed for a rather serious purpose. I fitted it to my bike to test if it works, but first, we need to talk about a serious problem facing some cyclists.
I’m not going to get too deep into the science, because really, this subject warrants much more discussion with actual medical professionals.
But cyclists, and male cyclists in particular, can have issues with their prostate and some, like Mornera, have pointed the finger at saddles.
I can see why. They’ve got barely any padding, most of your weight sits on it and bike rides can last for hours.
I’ve tested a lot of saddles in my life and ridden loads of test bikes with saddles from different brands. Some were really uncomfortable for me. I’ve experienced a few that caused me quite a bit of pain, and now I have a small list of brands whose saddles you couldn’t pay me to use.
But thankfully, I’ve never had an issue with my prostate. Mornera says that some riders do have issues with their prostate, taking it from something the size of a walnut up to something much bigger.
Of course, discussions about the prostate naturally prompt discussions of prostate cancer, and I’m very happy that we’re talking more about it. But there is no evidence linking saddles and cancer.
Certainly, your saddle won’t be the cause of something like prostate cancer. But a bad saddle can still cause you lots of pain in this general area.
Now, I’ve heard experts say that numbness and pain for one ride isn’t something to worry too much about, but you should be looking to do a bike fit or try a different saddle if the pain persists.
So, I guess the first thing to do is to test if this thing is comfortable.
So, is it comfy?
Liam saddle pressure mapping 9 (credit: Liam Cahill)
The nice thing about testing a saddle is that if it isn’t going to work for you, you’ll generally know quite quickly. Even numbness should become apparent after only about 30 minutes, so it won’t take long to spot a problem.
Having used the ONE/1 saddle for a few rides, I could feel the lack of pressure through the perennial area. However, this is largely where the positives end.
The shape of the ‘wings’, as Moerna calls them, means that you almost perch on the saddle, causing me to feel like I was forever tipping forward.
Not only did this feel unstable, it redirected a lot of my body weight forward, meaning my hands, wrists and shoulders were under more pressure than usual. This quickly became uncomfortable.
Liam saddle pressure mapping 4 (credit: Liam Cahill)
Sat upright on the tops, the saddle felt a little better, leading me to think the ONE/1 is best suited to far more upright riding positions.
The absence of a nose section of the saddle because apparent in two places. Firstly, and somewhat unexpectedly, I felt less confident when cornering. This is likely due to the way I weight the bike through the saddle and outside pedal, but the bike felt nervous and unsteady.
Secondly, when trying to tuck down into a more aerodynamic riding position, the lack of a nose left me sliding forward and off the saddle. Having stability when trying to put down some power is crucial. If you’re all over the place, watts are being wasted.
At €310, this is also right in amongst some of the most popular saddles on the market, from established brands.
Does it work?
Liam saddle pressure mapping 10 (credit: Liam Cahill)
The primary purpose of this saddle is to reduce pressure on the soft tissue, so to find out if it does what it claims, I went to see Brian McCullough at The Bike The Body, who has a pressure mapping kit. This will allow us to see exactly how pressure is being distributed.
Saddle pressure mapping device (credit: Liam Cahill)
The first issue was mounting the pressure sensor to the Mornera ONE/1. Its width is unlike any other saddle I’ve seen before, measuring 290mm at its widest.
With the sensor mounted, the software showed that the saddle was working as intended, with absolutely no pressure through the centre. At the sitbones, only small areas of pressure registered.
Liam saddle pressure mapping 6 (credit: Liam Cahill)
However, this pressure hadn’t simply disappeared. Brian noticed how my position on the bike had shifted, with my hands shifting back to stabilise my upper body. My shoulders, too, had shrugged to cope with the additional load.
Analysing the tracking camera footage also showed a dramatic increase in pelvis movement, which is evidence of the lack of stability found with the ONE/1.
Initial verdict
Monera ONE/1 saddle 2 (credit: Andrew Sykes)
While the intention of the Mornera ONE/1 is good, I don’t think this is a viable solution.
Having no nose on a saddle not only leads to the feeling of slipping forward, but it also places far too much weight through my hands, which becomes uncomfortable, even on short rides.
Town and city bikes with an upright riding position may suit this design better, but the lack of lateral stability will still be an issue.
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The noseless saddle concept has been around since at least the 1960s, when somebody figured out how to attach an ordinary drop-handlebar to a seat post, flip it upside-down, and sling a 6-8" strip of canvas between the drops. And the reported drawbacks are always the same. You're sitting on the muscles you need to power the bike. Lateral control of the bike using the hips is non-existent, And you need to push against the handlebar to keep from sliding off the front of it, except when you're not sitting on it.
Sorry, but that's nonsense. Tilt your seat back further. The fitter did not have the angle of the saddle right, and so of course it puts that much more pressure on the hands. Guess where your support pressure is on with the nosed saddle? The pudendal nerve.... "Cyclists experience groin numbness because their bike saddle causes prolonged compression of the pudendal nerve, leading to a condition known as pudendal neuralgia or "cyclist's syndrome". This pressure can cause numbness, tingling, or pain in the genital and perineal area. "
There are quite a few of these winged & noseless saddles and they mostly seem to have the same pros and cons but I'd love to see a review of the manta saddle which really does look unique.
Would that not also put pressure on muscle areas and/or chafe?
Also reminds me of one of these...
Surely the person best placed to test this product is a man with prostate pain?
For men living with the condition this saddle **might** make the difference between being to ride vs not riding at all. As such there's a trade off on hand pain, bike control etc.
Having personally suffered with very acute groin pain for many years (too much info: feeling you're going to be sick for weeks on end due to the pain after just one bike ride) I eventually had to pack in cycling altogether until the first "split" saddle designs came to market. In that period I was completely miserable.
The first split saddle designs looked ridiculous, were massive and heavy. I didn't care though because I was back on two wheels.
Yeah, I'm really worried when I'm destroying the nerves in my groin about how it looks.
It's really simple to look on Amazon now and find these noseless saddle designs that work great. I've used the X-Wing for years now. And guess what? I studied under Andy Pruitt for bike fitting back in the day in Boulder.
That guy knows a hell of a lot more about positioning on a bike than these guys have a clue about.
Try to go on a downhill and hit the brakes on a bike with a nosefree saddle like this. You will become a Hollywood star https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f251Pylr1Dk
I find it suspicious that in all the marketing on their site they don't show it fitted to a bike once.
Probably snake oil.
Not really clear what you're suggesting here.
That it doesn't actually exist? Well the writer has got
hands-bum-on with one, and there are multiple pictures (and a video) in the article.That it doesn't make a difference for people with prostate issues? How would pictures make a difference to that?
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=noseless+bike+seat+amazon&rh=n%3A21513110011%...
This saddle exists. You just have to contact them to buy it. I think you're better off trying out some of the designs on Amazon that you can easily return. That's how I figured it out. And I've been bike fitting folks for years and trying to get num nut(s) Idiot cyclist to get a clue.
So snake oil saddle that they're saying is horrible or snake oil trying to discredit it?