The cyclist who sent in the video featured today in our Near Miss of the Day series described it as a “closer than close” pass from a BMW driver – and one, moreover, that caused a motorist coming in the opposite direction to have to brake to avoid a collision.
John, the road.cc reader who shot the footage in Quainton, Buckinghamshire, sent it into Thames Valley Police, who subsequently told him that the driver – who did not view the video – was nevertheless “horrified by the incident.”
“They were given a warning,” John said. “Also I was told by the police that the driver was a horse rider.”
He added that the police civilian worker he dealt with on this incident told him “they are flooded with camera footage from cyclists” – something underlined by the regular appearance of videos in this feature from Berkshire, Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire, the counties that fall under Thames Valley Police’s responsibility.
Considering how much damage the driver of the BMW could have caused, John also added an interesting yet bizarre stat with regards to insurance after crunching some numbers himself: “I also forgot to mention it was a BMW 1 Series vs a Specialized Venge Pro 2020. Car valued at £2,500. Bike £6,500. Car insurance for me would be £230. Bike Insurance £515 at Bikmo. Crazy!”, he said.
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22 thoughts on “Near Miss of the Day 537: “Closer than close” pass causes oncoming driver to brake”
There are a number of
There are a number of different warnings that can be given – I’m curious as to which type it was here.
there’s the “don’t do it again” informal warning sometimes backed up with a letter. If the letter and outcome is formally recorded on police systems this can later be used to inform decision making. No one should get more than one warning.
or there’s a warning under s59 of the police reform act 2002.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/30/section/59
This is a formal warning recorded on the police national computer against the driver and the vehicle. If they are found driving carelessly or in an antisocial manner within a year of their last warning the vehicle can be seized.
This means anyone driving that same vehicle or the same driver in charge of another vehicle.
I hope this one was a s59 warning.
Is anyone else wondering what
Is anyone else wondering what the relevence of being a horse rider is?
At least the police say they spoke to the driver who still has no idea how close they came to the cyclist as they didn’t view the footage……
Horseriders hate
Horseriders hate inconsiderate motorists every bit as much as we do, if not more.
Does that make horse riders
Does that make horse riders better drivers? Evidently not. Drivers like this need prosecuting
lesterama wrote:
Not judging by the number of uncomfrtably close passes I have had from horse boxes.
Sriracha wrote:
Shame the self-hate didn’t prevent that bit of “inconsiderate ” driving….
Captain Badger wrote:
Shame the self-hate didn’t prevent that bit of “inconsiderate ” driving….— SrirachaIndeed, and that is what I took the police’s comment to mean, that as a some-time vulnerable road user themselves they were without excuse.
I think it means as a horse
I think it means as a horse rider they should be more aware of overtaking a vulnerable, slower moving object with a human on it.
It’s like when you hear a close pass drivers excuse and in there is “I’m a cyclist myself”.
Guess what, close passes will
Guess what, close passes will continue plaguing our rides for a very long time until the punishments handed out actually reflect the irresponsible, negligible or even downright dangerous driving standards that are so endemic on our roads.
A warning? They damn near
A warning? They damn near killed someone and all that gets is a warning?!
Sorry, forgot for a second; it was only a cyclist and they don’t really count.
If clearly dangerous driving only gets a warning, it’s hardly surprising that they are flooded with vids from cyclists showing dangerous driving. I wonder if they are clever enough to make the connection and actually take some serious action. That driver, horse rider or not, shouldn’t be on the road. Next time they’ll kill someone and the police will say “it’s a terrible shame, but how could we have known they were such a bad driver?”
He added that the police
He added that the police civilian worker he dealt with on this incident told him “they are flooded with camera footage from cyclists”
I wonder if an idle thought might cross the TVP roads and traffic unit’s communal brain cell about where they might be able to apply some preventative policing effort.
I’d’ve thought that police
I’d’ve thought that police departments would welcome receiving lots of footage. It’s evidence that’s gathered for very little cost to them apart from setting up their portal and then they get some quality data on poor driving and which locations have the biggest problems.
Most of the time, they can just send a warning letter which should be a quick win for them, and of course there’s also the benefit of possibly finding criminals that have flown under their radar (e.g. companies running vehicles registered as SORN etc.).
All it takes is having the resources to process the videos and I reckon that they could easily find people willing to do a simple desk job rather than needing fully trained officers.
I thought the same. Easy wins
I thought the same. Easy wins. 3 points and £200 fine for you, and you, 6 points and £300 for that. But, this is modern Britain after all and unless someone’s race, religion, gender or sexuality has been brought in to question then you can pretty much fuck off if you think they’ll give a shit about a cyclist.
That ain’t no horse!!
That ain’t no horse!!
‘Flooded with footage’? Presumably from car dashcams which are as cheap as chips. Cycle cameras not so. I’m also presuming that cycling cameras tend to be of better quality, so their evidential images are suitable for court.
So it could be that motorists’ shit footage is flooding the system and quality, relevant cycling footage is being washed away with it. Jetsam swirling around with the flotsam.
That nautically themed response didn’t really work did it, but you know what I mean
How long do Thames Valley
How long do Thames Valley Police take to respond to a video?
I submitted mine on 10 Jan.
A pickup driver took it upon himself to be the enforcer of the roads by close passing me and pointing to the shared path beside me. One day the driver is going to misjudge and take someone out.
Took them over a month to get
Took them over a month to get to me. But they did get there eventually. Oxfordshire section of TVP.
Thanks
Thanks
Horse rider? How the f*ck is
Horse rider? How the f*ck is that relevant???
And if they’re flooded, does that not suggest that road crime is a massive issue, being that it leads to injury and death at an alarming rate, and so requires greater resource…
Captain Badger wrote:
aggravating factor, they should clearly understand the space required by vulnerable road users, and so this pass cannot be put down to ignorance so it must be malice.
wycombewheeler wrote:
Or sheer stupidity.
A classic example of having
A classic example of having to cut in because of an oncoming car.
Use this road often. Overtaking on the brow of a hill or on a bend is common place here in Buckinghamshire. Drivers seem to expect no oncoming cars or expect them to slow down.
I dare say the police only sent a letter because of the oncoming car, the cyclist was just a witness.
That oncoming car was clearly
That oncoming car was clearly completely invisible (no hi-viz), it’s no wonder the driver didn’t see it until the last moment… 😉