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  • November 29, 2014 at 11:21 am #22799
    fitzey50

    anyone riding this set up,
    at the moment I’m using 50-34 with an 11-32 cassette and i love it,
    i enter a lot of the hillyer sportives and have a little bucket list of all the major climbs in the uk.
    next year I’m booked to do the wiggle dragon ride and and also going to the alps to do alp dhuez and col du galibier.
    I have just ordered a new canyon ultimate cf slx, the bike comes with 52/36-11/28 and canyon don’t allow you to change it,
    Will i really have to spend more money out changing it to compact?

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  • December 9, 2014 at 9:30 am #822069
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    fukawitribe

    le Bidon wrote:Personally,

    le Bidon wrote:
    Personally, I’d find the granny gear on a 11-32 far too “easy”. Obviously, it differs from person to person;

    True.. I personally find the 32 useful in the saddle in extremis but what gets me is the gaps in the cassette. Shimano and SRAM 11-32 have 4 teeth between the bottom two cogs, which I find makes the transition in and out of the saddle really jarring often when you least need it… 3 teeth is quite a jump but 4 ?

    I liked the 10-speed Shimano 12-30 cassette before, and the Campag cassettes seem to have some decent choice (12-29, 12-30, 13-29) but are generally bloody expensive and i’d have to swap out the freehub (not possible with my current setup) or get a new rear. Those all make more sense to me than the 11-32 I had, which is now swapped out to 11-28 (still not my ideal but hey..).

    Frankly I don’t care about the 11 that much, I mean it’s nice to have but when i’m spinning out a 50×12 i’m already heading north of 65km/h which is fine for the places I find myself in the UK. If I lived in the high mountains, i’m sure i’d feel differently but, alas, I don’t. As ever, it’s a very personal thing though – each to their own.

    December 8, 2014 at 1:26 pm #822067
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    fitzey50

    I did a sportive in wales
    I did a sportive in wales this year that went up hellfire pass in Snowdonia
    it was very very steep,
    I had to stand for most of the climb using the 28 on the cassette,
    when it went below 12 percent I sat down and tapped out using the 32.
    because it was a long climb it was good to be able the use different muscle group to get me to the top.
    I plan on doing most of the hillyer sportive in this country maybe I will try changing my climbing style before I go to the expense of changing all the gears.

    December 8, 2014 at 10:25 am #822065
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    le Bidon

    Personally, I’d find the
    Personally, I’d find the granny gear on a 11-32 far too “easy”. Obviously, it differs from person to person; I switched from a 12-28 to a 12-25, which is great until about a 25% gradient where things start to get a little tricky.

    Take it from me that cycling 145 miles from Barnstaple, through Exmoor and all the way back to Bristol with a 12-25 cassette is no fun at all. The hill at Crowcombe was a particular challenge…

    I’m switching out to 11-28 next time…

    December 8, 2014 at 4:46 am #822063
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    macrophotofly

    May I suggest a different
    May I suggest a different bike choice? The usual reason for going for Canyon is its amazing value. I would hesitate a guess people do not buy it due to having ridden it (and several other models) side-by-side and decided its the best bike (which it may well be, but their selling model means most people buy Canyon on price and reviews)
    With the chainring changes, RD change, cassette change, etc its probably going to be cheaper to buy an alternative model that comes with a compact crank?

    December 7, 2014 at 10:05 pm #822061
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    joemmo

    drmatthewhardy wrote:Shimano

    drmatthewhardy wrote:
    Shimano short cage rear mechs work up to 28t. You’ll need a medium cage rear mech.

    Not so, some of the newer ones are rated to 30t . I have one (rd-5700) running on a 1×10 with an 11-32 cassette and it works perfectly. Even with a 28t rated mech it would probably cope but the thing you still need to be aware of is the capacity.

    December 7, 2014 at 3:47 pm #822059
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    mf0u3021

    I’ve been running an 11-36 on
    I’ve been running an 11-36 on a standard 105 rear derailleur (for cx) fine for a long time. I can only use 16 out of 20 gears but in practice (cross chaining) that’s not an issue. So it depends if you want to buy a new rear derailleur or live with losing some gears and saving some cash.

    December 7, 2014 at 11:38 am #822057
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    glynr36

    Just ride it and see, making
    Just ride it and see, making a mountain out of a molehill tbh.
    Train a bit more, loose some weight and you won’t notice it!

    December 7, 2014 at 11:26 am #822055
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    matthewn5

    Shimano short cage rear mechs
    Shimano short cage rear mechs work up to 28t. You’ll need a medium cage rear mech.

    December 7, 2014 at 10:40 am #822053
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    fitzey50

    will the short cage work with
    will the short cage work with the 11-32 cassette?
    i have got a feeling i will have to change that swell 😐

    December 6, 2014 at 6:06 pm #822051
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    joemmo

    fitzey50 wrote:Thanks again

    fitzey50 wrote:
    Thanks again for all your replays
    I think I will change the cassette to 11-32 and then buy an 34 inner ring as drmatthewhardy
    Suggested,
    I just hope the rear derailer that comes with the bike we be able the handle the 32 or I’m in to replacing that as we’ll :(

    If its the short cage rear then it will handle the 32t sprocket size but not the overall tooth difference.

    (52+32)-(11+34)=39 so you’d need the medium cage mech.

    Why not take the chainset off as soon as you get the bike, sell it and replace with a 50/34?
    Probably cost less in the long run. You could do that and fit a 12-30 cassette and keep the short cage mech.

    December 5, 2014 at 10:59 pm #822049
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    matthewn5

    It might not, but you won’t
    It might not, but you won’t know till you try it!

    Let us all know whether it works or not.

    December 5, 2014 at 9:21 pm #822047
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    therevokid

    hope the front can cope too
    hope the front can cope too !!!

    December 5, 2014 at 9:18 pm #822045
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    fitzey50

    Thanks again for all your
    Thanks again for all your replays
    I think I will change the cassette to 11-32 and then buy an 34 inner ring as drmatthewhardy
    Suggested,
    I just hope the rear derailer that comes with the bike we be able the handle the 32 or I’m in to replacing that as we’ll 🙁

    December 5, 2014 at 9:16 pm #822043
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    therevokid

    that would exceed the max
    that would exceed the max capacity for most front mechs wouldn’t it ?

    December 5, 2014 at 8:52 pm #822041
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    matthewn5

    Why not just change the
    Why not just change the cheaper smaller inner ring to your favoured 34?

    That would give you 52/34 and 11/28. Shimano gear set-ups are very tolerant of misfits like this. It should work fine!

    Under a tenner at Rose Bikes: http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/shimano-ultegra-fc-6800-chainring/aid:713810?gclid=COXml7fjr8ICFRHHtAodlxoAFQ

    And if it doesn’t work, you’ve only wasted a tenner.

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