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Hi everyone,

The move to traditional bikes and clothing from ten years back seems to be fairly over. Even its foremeost proponents have largely moved away from their own re-discoveries.
Thus it seems that even Rene Herse are not doing their cycling knickers anymore; in any case they’re not listed in their shop any longer, even “out of stock”, as would normally be the case were they only temporarily unavailable.
My own first pair (from 2016, under their old  brand Compass) are now beyond repair. And I dont’ find any replacements that don’t have a look far too sporty (like the Endura Humvee, with synthetic-looking fabrics, huge logos, lots of ungainly seams…), or too Victorian, or… Anyway they really do need to have a fairly cycling specific cut, so it’s not just about any hiking or hunting knickers that’ll fit the bill.

These items are pretty essential to my cycling wardrobe, in fact they’re indispensable. So I’ll keep hoping they turn up again on the RH website, but in the almost unthinkable case they don’t, does anyone have any suggestions? At all?

Many thanks indeed,
Martin

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[john_smith]

Since when? Knickers are

Since when? Knickers are  ladies’ underwear. What else would they be?

[Anonymous]

Yeah well, terminology here
Yeah well, terminology here follows the US usage, the equivalent English terms seem to be confined to the tweed run or Etsy these days.

[HoarseMann]

For a while cycling was the

For a while cycling was the new golf. So maybe Golf knickers could be the new cycling knickers? They are at least, ahem, hi-vis…

https://www.royalandawesome.co.uk/mens/golf-plus-twos

[mattw]

We really need to fix this

We really need to fix this terminological abuse.

Knickers, like pants, belong on the inside, not the outside.

We are not Superman.

And we are definitely not Usonian. If we were, about 4x as many of us would be dead.

[Anonymous]

Update for the RH knickers:

Update for the RH knickers: they may come back some day, but the question is when (I haven’t found anything satisfactory in the meantime).

ETAs for Out-of-Stock Parts

“The Rene Herse cyclotouring knickers have many fans. There are times when it just doesn’t feel right to enter restaurants, shops or museums dressed only in tight-fitting cycling shorts. The sophisticated cut of these knickers doesn’t inhibit performance—above I’m wearing them in Paris-Brest-Paris.

The intricate nature of these knickers makes them very hard to sew. The small workshop in Seattle that used to make them for us is busy with other, simpler projects. So there will be no more until we find a new supplier.

This is a problem with many of our products: Their superior performance also makes them very hard to manufacture. We are a small customer for most of our suppliers, yet we demand the highest quality standards.”

[Anonymous]

https://dailybreadcycles.de

https://dailybreadcycles.de/produkt-kategorie/kleiden/?quick-view=16971

[David9694]

Do you have a pic of your old

Do you have a pic of your old knickers before you wore them out? So we have more of an idea what to look for? 

I’ve had two pairs of these which I’m sure you’ll have looked at – great for both walking and cycling – I think you’d still be ahead on £££ if you were to get these and have them altered. 

https://www.endurasport.com/hummvee-chino-trousers-navy/12923533.html?switchcurrency=GBP&shippingcountry=GB&variation=12923535&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgNanBhDUARIsAAeIcAu9_1r0sv2pLIzLruBpGMBVpUqvFtB-zdrho6-wskyaGMsfHW6eMv4aAjCgEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[Anonymous]

Thanks, I’ve scoured the

Thanks, I’ve scoured the length and breadth of the internet now. While not finding those exact links, they don’t correspod to what I’m looking for. N°1 is figure hugging cycling garb, not adapted to anything beyond actual sports cycling. N° 2 is  amongst the kind of things I’ve been looking at, and have in general found looking out of place in most contexts for being made from a kind of fabric that directly says “sports clothes”, in this case augmented bu lots of zippers, big logos etc.

I’m not saying that I’m not picky, but I did have somethig that fit the bill exactly…

[David9694]

https://www.corinnedennis.co

https://www.corinnedennis.co.uk/mens-extra-padded-3-4

https://www.alpinetrek.co.uk/norroena-fjoeraa-flex1-shorts-shorts/

?

[Anonymous]

P.S.: Pretty sure that update
P.S.: Pretty sure that update from “3/2023” wasn’t there when I looked for information in June…

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately I’ve found
Unfortunately I’ve found confirmation that the Rene Herse knickers aren’t made anymore…

[hedgepig]

Knickers is the American for

Knickers is the American for breeches (as worn by ancient mountaineers).  Montane have some called 3/4 capri pants but appear to be available only to women. I now have 3 pairs of the Montane capris which have a gusset, pockets and a quite high, stretchy waistband.  Stretchy, comfy, light and they don’t get stuck in the chain.  I think orienteers wear 3/4 trousers to keep the cuffs out of the heather too.

[andystow]

Amen, brother. My Compass
Amen, brother. My Compass knickers wore out in the seat (destroyed by a Brooks Cambium, which Compass/RH later warned about) so I would love to find another pair.

[Paul J]

Aha… I’ve never heard
Aha… I’ve never heard knickerbockers being called knickers before, but then I never knew knickerbockers were still a thing either! (And I do appreciate the wisdom in older clothing – e.g. I think the old jerseys with two pockets on the front are _great_ and have a few; and I have woollen bibs for the winter). 😉

Learn something new every day. Though, knickerbockers don’t look like something I’d try. 😉

[Anonymous]

That’s a good idea, will look

That’s a good idea, will look into it, thanks.

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