[David9694]

I remember a few months ago lots of positive discussions on here about this series and – I think Picard. We’ve finished seasons 1 and 2 of Picard and have watched 4 episodes of Brave New Worlds.  A bit mixed so far, but we’ve paid our £17.99 so will plough on. . 

We enjoyed Picard, even if the S2 titles were getting a bit Bond movie (Craig era, not silhouetted girls swinging on his PPK.)  I never did figure out who the people at the slightly CGI’d chateau Picard were – servants, or what?  Oh look, the chateau has been abandoned for decades, but there’s still somehow a working pistol and unopened bottle of wine to be had.

I guess those on the BNW production wanting to keep more of the look and feel of TOS lost the argument early on; at least a red jersey doesn’t quite mean getting zapped within 5 minutes of beaming down. The unspoken problem of the running any ship being a 24 hour concern hasn’t been solved yet either.  

Generally, I like what they’ve done with most of the characters, sassy Cadet Uhura, a more active Nurse Chappell; I miss McCoy – no 1 and the doctor both seem wooden and under-powered.  Where does No1 actually sit on the bridge? She had the Chekhov position IIRC in The Menagerie/ pilot show. 

Good twist with Pike seeing his own death – my wife asks does that make him invulnerable ‘til then?  Otherwise, he’s a Kirk/Picard blend.  You need to get completely away from the TOS/TNG template, as they have with the engineer character. 

Children of the Comet (episode 2 – Uhura episode) got my goat in a few ways. Keeping someone (the doctor’s daughter) in effectively an undead state via a transporter – to bring out whenever you feel like it is staggeringly unethical, not least for anyone in medicine and also made for a lousy reveal.

What I took from the episode was something about how we mostly act on our fears – oh no, the comet is going to destroy the planet – oh no, it isn’t.  I just hope the slightly Star Wars/ Avatar looking people on the surface weren’t drowned.

A strange alien artefact that – oh gosh – responds to music; and there’s super-intelligent Spock on scene, basically saying “sorry, I got nothing”.  Perhaps I have to face up to the fact that the writers may be too young  (and I am too old) to know how unoriginal that idea was, but I’m glad Uhura gets more to do than “hailing frequencies open, Captain”.

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[hawkinspeter]

brooksby wrote:

 

I have to finish rewatching The Prisoner on ITVX first 😉

 

Which episode order are you using though?

https://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/02/prisoner-episode-order.html

[brooksby]

kinderje wrote:

If you want distracting try Justified. First couple of episodes in season 1 start to turn a bit joky but it then picks up pace and had me hooked for all 6 seasons. Very well written.

I remember watching season 1 of Justified on C5 years ago.  Just discovered that the whole thing is on Disney+ now, so may have to watch it again…  I have to finish rewatching The Prisoner on ITVX first 😉

[kinderje]

If you want distracting try

If you want distracting try Justified. First couple of episodes in season 1 start to turn a bit joky but it then picks up pace and had me hooked for all 6 seasons. Very well written.

 

[OnYerBike]

I thought Season 1 was quite

I thought Season 1 was quite good, if a bit slow at times. It was a bit different and stood up well enough by itself, without needing an encyclopedic knowledge of TNG.

S2 was just a bit ridiculous – tried to be clever but was just confusing, and frankly I’ve never got on with any plots that involve Q.

S3 started off great – a bit faster paced and with a plot that provided plenty of intrigue but without resorting to the more ridiculous tropes (cf. Q). But I did feel the last few episodes were let down by the in-your-face nostalgia bomb and the intergenerational conflict clearly scripted to appease ageing trekkies.

Not that there is anything wrong with being an ageing trekkie, but I just find it detracts from any TV show/movie where it is obvious that the producers have gone out of their way to cash in on a particular demographic/relying on nostalgia rather than doing something original (and Picard is far from the worst offender in this regard!)

[IanMSpencer]

Yes, we put off watching P3*
Yes, we put off watching P3* because Picard was trying to be all too clever. P3 found its feet, simple story well told, a bit too much down, down, down, down, up at the end plotting (things get worse and worse until rock bottom and then everything goes right in the last couple of episodes). There was a big hint of a Not-P4 at the end with {spoiler} being set up with {spoiler} to go off on a {spoiler) but it definitely had potential to reboot into yet another spin off.

*Compulsory use of initialisation when talking ST.

[brooksby]

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

There’s a special hell for people who don’t like Firefly 😉

A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

[AlsoSomniloquism]

Lower Decks has lots of

Lower Decks has lots of callbacks to all the shows and series including items in the 1970’s TAS (massive Spock Skeleton, Alien races only seen in that before). So for Trekkie super geeks and mostly a comedy although a couple of episodes have some depth. 

You also finally see Cetacean Operations in action. (A throwback to a room apparently on the Enterprise according to the tech books). 

[hawkinspeter]

brooksby wrote:

There’s a special hell for people who don’t like Firefly 😉

A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

[Hirsute]

My wife sends you a like for
My wife sends you a like for this post.

[hawkinspeter]

David9694 wrote:

I’m not super well-versed on TNG, but where the heck did this “I love you, Data” baloney come from?  Picard besotted with his laptop; that’s before becoming one himself, of course. 

Mixed feelings about Data requesting to be deactivated as the ultimate human act and Picard pulling his USB sticks out one by one. Death isn’t something you just dip into (and out of). 

Lower Decks looked like a tweenager comedy from the trailer. Can only be an improvement on the 1970s TAS – who remembers?

I recently grabbed a copy of the 1970s TAS though I don’t remember watching it at the time. It’s not considered to be any good though – I was just trying to be completist with my Star Trek collection.

Lower Decks is worth a watch though it could well be described as a tweenager comedy.

[HoldingOn]

It is a bit weird. Not sure

It is a bit weird. Not sure if his quest to become human as left the others feeling like parents? They nutured him on his journey.

He has also “died” a couple of times now.

also “pulling his USB sticks out” 

[brooksby]

There’s a special hell for

There’s a special hell for people who don’t like Firefly 😉

[David9694]

Lower decks looked like a

I’m not super well-versed on TNG, but where the heck did this “I love you, Data” baloney come from?  Picard besotted with his laptop; that’s before becoming one himself, of course. 

Mixed feelings about Data requesting to be deactivated as the ultimate human act and Picard pulling his USB sticks out one by one. Death isn’t something you just dip into (and out of). 

Lower Decks looked like a tweenager comedy from the trailer. Can only be an improvement on the 1970s TAS – who remembers?

[David9694]

But none of us cycles in the

But none of us cycles in the winter –  a taxi driver told me – so we need something to distract us. 

[HoldingOn]

hawkinspeter wrote:

Do they run them through the Wash?

it still hurts.

ohh – Resident Alien is worth a watch too. Comedy.

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