[Rendel Harris]

London camera cyclists may be interested to know that, according to a response I’ve just received from the traffic public reporting team (after I said that if they wouldn’t tell me the outcome of a submission I would have to make an FOI request for it) that apparently “a project is underway and hopefully will be live in December 2024, where you will be able to view the results of Public Reporting traffic offences.” That would be a definite step forward if it comes to pass!

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[Rendel Harris]

Latest update from my contact

Latest update from my contact at the Met: “The database has been sent back to development, therefore we are waiting for an update from IT.” Hmm. FOI request submitted.

 

[Rendel Harris]

That’s interesting

That’s interesting information, thanks. I told them I would make a freedom of information act a request and along with the information about a new portal (which doesn’t seem to have materialised, currently chasing up) they sent me a link to an official form for making such a request. A bit cheeky if they know that because I have asked they should answer anyway.

[wtjs]

If you had asked them for the

If you had asked them for the information, then they were obliged to supply it under the terms on the Freedom of Information Act

A little pedantic point on this: except they’re not. There are numerous tricks to evade the responsibility to provide the information requested, and the agent who helps them to do that is, unfortunately, the Information Commissioner. See my post below by the big picture of the white coach. There are few cyclists, but many police officers and drivers, who would deny that I was the victim of the offence – and I still await official confirmation of what the police did about it (which, obviously, was nothing)

[Steve K]

A little pedantic point on

A little pedantic point on this “after I said that if they wouldn’t tell me the outcome of a submission I would have to make an FOI request for it”.

If you had asked them for the information, then they were obliged to supply it under the terms on the Freedom of Information Act.  You don’t have to make “an FOI request”. 

The relevant section of the Act is below – as you’ll see, no need to say “this is an FOI request”.  (To be clear, I’m not criticising Rendel, but public authorities who don’t understand their duties.)

8 Request for information.

(1) In this Act any reference to a “request for information” is a reference to such a request which—

(a) is in writing,

(b) states the name of the applicant and an address for correspondence, and

(c) describes the information requested.

(2) For the purposes of subsection (1)(a), a request is to be treated as made in writing where the text of the request—

(a) is transmitted by electronic means,

(b) is received in legible form, and

(c) is capable of being used for subsequent reference.

[chrisonabike]

Perhaps it was one of those

Perhaps it was one of those terrible military “accidents” where bio-weapons were released and went further than intended or lingered for too long?  (Like Gruinard Island)

[mdavidford]

hawkinspeter wrote:

in Stupinigi, Italy

Or perhaps, given that their invasiveness was well known by then, that should be ‘in stupidity’.

[hawkinspeter]

belugabob wrote:

belugabob wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

https://www.greatbritishchefs.com/recipes/squirrel-celeriac-lasagne-recipe

Did grey squirrels co-exist with the Romans (in mainland Europe)?

No – they’re a more recent American import. We (UK) got them in 1876 and Europe waited until 1948 to get them (more specifically, in Stupinigi, Italy).

[belugabob]

I’m loving this thread – no
I’m loving this thread – no road tax (VED), but lots of Roman taxonomy(Vedi)

(Yes, I’m also mentally scarred from having to study latin at school, but this did mean that I laughed louder than most, at the scene in Life of Brian.)

[belugabob]

wtjs wrote:

wtjs wrote:

Just remember the LancsFilth Dodge! They refused to tell me what they actually DID when they claimed they would take action after a gross offence by a bus driver. FoI, ICO, Information Tribunal procedure terminated by the Upper Tier Tribunal when I was refused leave to appeal there. That takes ages so I’m going to repeat the FoI request soon. They’re prepared to spend all that time and effort refusing – obviously because what they did was send the joke advice letter or did nothing at all. They don’t like lying in print!

Nice use of ‘Tribunal’, in a non-Roman context

[belugabob]

hawkinspeter wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

mdavidford wrote:

What about squirrels, though?

https://www.greatbritishchefs.com/recipes/squirrel-celeriac-lasagne-recipe

Did grey squirrels co-exist with the Romans (in mainland Europe)?

[Mr Blackbird]

The war was started when the
Readers may be interested to hear that the war was started when the Greek philosopher Idsius (who Plato later described as a bit of a numpty) proposed abolishing horse lanes which were used to provide segregation from close passing chariots. Idsius also proposed that all horseriders wear Greek alphabet plates, as this would eliminate all known traffic safety issues.
The Persians on the other hand were very pro safe horse riding and had recently expanded their lane network, with several redesigned roundabouts, including the famous Mashad double decker gyratory system. When the Persians heard about Idsius’ proposals,they were enraged and invaded.

[mdavidford]

JLasTSR wrote:

Platea was a bit of an undecided one but the Persians retreated so the Greeks are probably justified in claiming it. 

They were handed the victory on a Platea?

[Rendel Harris]

Yes, that’s a fair enough way

Yes, that’s a fair enough way of looking at it. I suppose it’s in some ways the same as the Blitz in World War II, by any objective measure the Germans won the Blitz, having killed so many and destroyed so much of Britain’s infrastructure, but the British just managed to hold them off enough to prevent an invasion, so in the wider context it’s a British victory.

[JLasTSR]

Thermopylae is generally

Thermopylae is generally thought of as a Persian victory as they killed every Greek and those Greeks that were sent away when they found out Xerxes had circumvented them retreated, the 300 Spartans and some allies then held the Persians up for a further day but were all killed. The naval battle Salamis was the really big defeat for the Persians and Platea was a bit of an undecided one but the Persians retreated so the Greeks are probably justified in claiming it. 

[JLasTSR]

Now boy did you forget your

Now boy did you forget your Latin? What case should it be in, write it out 100 times all over this nice clean wall. Romani ite domum.

Abbreviated from Monty Python

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